No real weight loss for 4 months - advice?
Marchmallow
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Hey everyone, I've been scratching my head over this for a while now, since nothing I'm doing seems to shift any weight.
I'm female, 5'2, 190lbs and 34 years old. For between 3-4 months I've been calorie restricting, but I've lost 2-3 lbs total in 16 weeks. It's a loss, but that's more what you'd expect to see in one month rather than 4.
I started at 1500 calories plus doing IF (eating between 11am and 7pm), but when I wasn't seeing results there I stopped IF and dropped to 1400 calories and started adding in exercise. I did some weight training for a couple of weeks but I switched that out for a 1 hour walk every other day because I felt that's more sustainable for me atm.
I know that usually the culprit for stalled weight loss is underestimating what you eat, but I'm really careful about weighing and logging everything. If the packet won't scan, I'll manually enter the nutrition info myself. My fitbit estimates that I burn between 1900-2400 calories per day, depending on how active I've been.
My question is, am I missing something, should I drop my calories? I've tried 1200 in the past, but 1400 is the lowest I can manage without being hungry. I'm vegan so I can't really do keto, I rely on carbs too much. I've managed to lose weight in the past doing what I do now, so I'm not sure what's different.
Thanks for reading such a long post, input is appreciated!
I'm female, 5'2, 190lbs and 34 years old. For between 3-4 months I've been calorie restricting, but I've lost 2-3 lbs total in 16 weeks. It's a loss, but that's more what you'd expect to see in one month rather than 4.
I started at 1500 calories plus doing IF (eating between 11am and 7pm), but when I wasn't seeing results there I stopped IF and dropped to 1400 calories and started adding in exercise. I did some weight training for a couple of weeks but I switched that out for a 1 hour walk every other day because I felt that's more sustainable for me atm.
I know that usually the culprit for stalled weight loss is underestimating what you eat, but I'm really careful about weighing and logging everything. If the packet won't scan, I'll manually enter the nutrition info myself. My fitbit estimates that I burn between 1900-2400 calories per day, depending on how active I've been.
My question is, am I missing something, should I drop my calories? I've tried 1200 in the past, but 1400 is the lowest I can manage without being hungry. I'm vegan so I can't really do keto, I rely on carbs too much. I've managed to lose weight in the past doing what I do now, so I'm not sure what's different.
Thanks for reading such a long post, input is appreciated!
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the most common reason to not lose weight on MFP is undercounting your calories. do you weigh everything you eat using an accurate digital scale AND make sure that the calorie info you use on MFP is correct as per USDA or the manufacturer?
there are lots of wrong food entries here - one guy found one that said his potato salad was like 50 calories for what turned out to be a 450 calorie serving, ate two servings per day along with the rest of his food and of course, couldn't lose weight.7 -
Do you allow cheat days?1
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zebasschick wrote: »the most common reason to not lose weight on MFP is undercounting your calories. do you weigh everything you eat using an accurate digital scale AND make sure that the calorie info you use on MFP is correct as per USDA or the manufacturer?
Yep, it's a digital food scale. As I said in my post, I'm really paranoid about getting it wrong so if I can't scan the bar code I'll enter it myself from the nutrition table on the packaging.
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4legsRbetterthan2 wrote: »Do you allow cheat days?
I have occasional cheat meals, but if I ever go over on a day it's between 100- 300 cals over, but that's not often.0 -
Hi, I haven’t been exercising aslong as you yet but still struggling! I’m 5ft 2 and 126lbs, I’ve been exercising everyday for the last 4/5 weeks and I’ve been doing an hour of cardio and 30mins of weights then a brisk 20-30min walk of an evening! I started on 1200 calories and then reduced to 800-1000 and tried IF and I lost 3lb in the first weeks but now nothing! I know 4/5 weeks isn’t long to see a massive difference but considering I went from not doing much exercise to a lot and eating healthier less calories I thought I’d see more!1
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Just a quick note: my Fitbit notoriously overestimates my daily activity, often counting stationary arm movements as steps and driving as walking. For a while in 2018 that had stalled my weight-loss, but I was at 165 pounds so had a smaller margin of error at the time. That weight-loss attempt came to naught.
Now I’ve restarted in May and I just use it for specific workouts, and even then try not to eat all the Fitbit calories back. I’m at 188 lbs now and have been losing consistently 2 pounds a week for a couple of months now. I know that rate will, and even should, slow down as I get from obese to overweight. Feel free to friend me and look at my diary - I log every day.5 -
I had Fitbit for a few years and now Apple Watch. Both have my TDEE over 2000 a day. But by calculation and years of tracking with excel, I know my TDEE is more like 1800’s. I’m also a petite female so I understand the struggle. I’m 5”2 and I fluctuate bn 118-120.
OP’s BMR is around 1600 with those stats. So 1900 doesn’t seem like that far off with walking an hour a day on top of her daily activity. With accurate logging there should be a drop with 1400-1500 calories.4 -
I have a Fitbit and even on days when I do almost nothing, the damn thing insists I burn over 1600 a day. On an active day, it will tell me I burned about 3000. I do NOT use it to track calorie burn AT ALL. I use it for heart rate, sleep, and walking (and even that isn’t accurate as I also GPS my walks through my phone via Gaia).
If you are eating back the calories that your Fitbit tells you you’ve burned, that would be why you aren’t seeing results.1 -
Hi, I haven’t been exercising aslong as you yet but still struggling! I’m 5ft 2 and 126lbs, I’ve been exercising everyday for the last 4/5 weeks and I’ve been doing an hour of cardio and 30mins of weights then a brisk 20-30min walk of an evening! I started on 1200 calories and then reduced to 800-1000 and tried IF and I lost 3lb in the first weeks but now nothing! I know 4/5 weeks isn’t long to see a massive difference but considering I went from not doing much exercise to a lot and eating healthier less calories I thought I’d see more!
800 - 1000 calories is below what is safely recomended for a female. It sounds like you do not have alot of weigh to lose, so you should be shooting for about .5 lbs/week. Slow down, go back to at least your 1200 calorie a day plan, and exercise patience and persistence. Treat your body well, it's the only one you get!10 -
Dogmom1978 wrote: »I have a Fitbit and even on days when I do almost nothing, the damn thing insists I burn over 1600 a day. On an active day, it will tell me I burned about 3000. I do NOT use it to track calorie burn AT ALL. I use it for heart rate, sleep, and walking (and even that isn’t accurate as I also GPS my walks through my phone via Gaia).
If you are eating back the calories that your Fitbit tells you you’ve burned, that would be why you aren’t seeing results.
You know you burn calories just by living, right? 1600 is not an unreasonable estimate for a sedentary day, depending on your height and weight it may even be higher.10 -
Are you weighing the food you are scanning? Weight of packaged food can be off. Example bread that is supposed to be 41g for 2 slices is often 47 to 49g.
Beyond that, have you been checked for any medical reasons that may influence your weight loss? Thyroid, or PCOS?3 -
Are you making the food yourself? Even if you scan packaged food and weigh it (eg a pizza or ready made quiche) then you will never know exactly how many calories are in it. Food labels can be off by 20%. Something could have 200 calories in on the label but actually have 240. These things can add up slowly. Weigh your oil and fats too. I would start cooking your own food and weighing everything for atleast 6 weeks. Also are you weighing yourself everyday? My weight has ‘stalled’ for 8 weeks and then I had a whoosh and dropped 4 lbs. But now my weight is back up 4 lbs because of PMS but if I hadn’t checked the scale and seen that whoosh a week ago I would’ve though that my weight is stuck at 154/155lbs. Loads to think about. I also suspect your Fitbit is overestimating how much you burn.2
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Hi, I haven’t been exercising aslong as you yet but still struggling! I’m 5ft 2 and 126lbs, I’ve been exercising everyday for the last 4/5 weeks and I’ve been doing an hour of cardio and 30mins of weights then a brisk 20-30min walk of an evening! I started on 1200 calories and then reduced to 800-1000 and tried IF and I lost 3lb in the first weeks but now nothing! I know 4/5 weeks isn’t long to see a massive difference but considering I went from not doing much exercise to a lot and eating healthier less calories I thought I’d see more!
Whoa, you're putting in way more effort than me, that must be disheartening! You seem to be quite slim already from what yoy say, so maybe its just that your body doesn't think it's holding 'excess' fat and is fighting to keep what it has? Unlike me, I'm technically obese but my bod likes having this much fat apparently 😅2 -
nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Are you weighing the food you are scanning? Weight of packaged food can be off. Example bread that is supposed to be 41g for 2 slices is often 47 to 49g.
Beyond that, have you been checked for any medical reasons that may influence your weight loss? Thyroid, or PCOS?
I never thought to weigh the pre-portioned package stuff actually, I've just trusted the manufacturers. Didn't know it could be off by that much!
I did get tested for underactive thyroid a few years ago but it was normal at the time. I've wondered if I've got PCOS for a while but haven't had it checked.1 -
I find packages to have extra weight more often than less. Since your progress is less than expected, being meticulous and weighing everything/making your own food as often as possible so your counts can be accurate would be good to try for 6 to 8 weeks. With food made by others (family, friends or restaurants) your logging would be an estimated value as you can't know for sure.
As to whether or not your Fitbit is accurate, the 1900+ daily total includes your bmr. Of course bmr is based on an average person and its possible your burn is a little below average.2 -
I see your diary is open. Here are my observations:
One thing that jumped out at me was no weights for calorie-dense foods like pizza. These pizzas have calories counts based on X weight but could actually weigh a lot more.
I also saw a few entries of foods that looked like unusually small amounts, which may not be an error, but I wanted to double check. Ex: 12 gram of Quorn and 10 gram of nut & maple crisp.
Your use of "medium" for a non-calorie dense food like apples rather than a weight isn't going to make a big difference in and of itself, but it is an indicator that your logging can be tightened up.
I also want to make sure you are confident in your use of ml rather than grams.8 -
If you're not losing it's directly because of the math. You're eating more than you think or you're NOT burning as much as you think. For the latter, many people burn much less than they think. Try eating just your BMR (about 1500 calories based on your stats) and see how that goes. As you lose weight, the calorie intake will go down incrementally.
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Marchmallow wrote: »nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Are you weighing the food you are scanning? Weight of packaged food can be off. Example bread that is supposed to be 41g for 2 slices is often 47 to 49g.
Beyond that, have you been checked for any medical reasons that may influence your weight loss? Thyroid, or PCOS?
I never thought to weigh the pre-portioned package stuff actually, I've just trusted the manufacturers. Didn't know it could be off by that much!
I did get tested for underactive thyroid a few years ago but it was normal at the time. I've wondered if I've got PCOS for a while but haven't had it checked.
also:
Scanning something doesn't make it "correct."
Scanned items are entered into the database by users just like yourself who may or may not change/edit/get it wrong.
Any time I use anything for the first time I check the entry in the database to make sure it's entered correctly and also that it's entered in grams because that's what I like to use.
I cannot tell you how many hundreds of times the item in the database is wrong.
Don't
Trust
Scanning
Unless you've verified it by comparing to the label. Items from the same manufacturer change - by a LOT - too.
Recipes change, formulations change, and Portion Sizes change. Unless you're using a scale set to grams and verified foods in grams, it's super easy to make mistakes of several hundred calories per meal.
Also, everything kshama2001 said above.13 -
Marchmallow wrote: »nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Are you weighing the food you are scanning? Weight of packaged food can be off. Example bread that is supposed to be 41g for 2 slices is often 47 to 49g.
Beyond that, have you been checked for any medical reasons that may influence your weight loss? Thyroid, or PCOS?
I never thought to weigh the pre-portioned package stuff actually, I've just trusted the manufacturers. Didn't know it could be off by that much!
I did get tested for underactive thyroid a few years ago but it was normal at the time. I've wondered if I've got PCOS for a while but haven't had it checked.
if you mean you're scanning foods with the MFP app, i've found many "official" MFP listings that are wrong.
many packaged foods list the calories in a serving, but for example, my husband's favorite bread is between 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 servings per slice. so if you count a sandwich as having 1 serving of that bread, you'd be counting low and if you put in 2 servings, you'd be undercounting between a half and a whole serving. just an easy example. some larger single candy bars and smallish bags of chips are 2 servings even though pretty much everyone eats the entire thing.4 -
As many others have said, the MFP database could be a culprit.
Something to check as well could be the weight of your dried goods. Often they will list the calorie count in cooked weigh rather than dry weight. Pasta (for example) is notorious for this and will often list something as cooked. If you're measuring dry but then inputting the cooked value then you could be underestimating by more than 100%.4 -
Dogmom1978 wrote: »Redordeadhead wrote: »Dogmom1978 wrote: »I have a Fitbit and even on days when I do almost nothing, the damn thing insists I burn over 1600 a day. On an active day, it will tell me I burned about 3000. I do NOT use it to track calorie burn AT ALL. I use it for heart rate, sleep, and walking (and even that isn’t accurate as I also GPS my walks through my phone via Gaia).
If you are eating back the calories that your Fitbit tells you you’ve burned, that would be why you aren’t seeing results.
You know you burn calories just by living, right? 1600 is not an unreasonable estimate for a sedentary day, depending on your height and weight it may even be higher.Redordeadhead wrote: »Dogmom1978 wrote: »I have a Fitbit and even on days when I do almost nothing, the damn thing insists I burn over 1600 a day. On an active day, it will tell me I burned about 3000. I do NOT use it to track calorie burn AT ALL. I use it for heart rate, sleep, and walking (and even that isn’t accurate as I also GPS my walks through my phone via Gaia).
If you are eating back the calories that your Fitbit tells you you’ve burned, that would be why you aren’t seeing results.
You know you burn calories just by living, right? 1600 is not an unreasonable estimate for a sedentary day, depending on your height and weight it may even be higher.
I can tell you by the scale that the Fitbit is over estimating what I burn. Not only am I not starving as I should be if I really burned all those calories but I would be a stick.
Thanks for the completely useless comment though 👍🏻
No need to be rude.12 -
I had four weeks in a row where I went down 0.2 lbs each week. I found it highly frustrating. But then it also occurred to me that I was constipated (drinking 60-72 oz water daily, taking Metamucil daily, etc, measuring and logging everything faithfully, but restricting calories does do this for me) and I dealt with that by adding chia seeds and ground flaxseed to my daily meal and went down almost 2 lbs the following week. Sounds gross, but that can happen when restricting calories as well (I suspect it's the cutting almost out of fat - fatty foods and oils having the opposite effect).3
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Marchmallow wrote: »nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Are you weighing the food you are scanning? Weight of packaged food can be off. Example bread that is supposed to be 41g for 2 slices is often 47 to 49g.
Beyond that, have you been checked for any medical reasons that may influence your weight loss? Thyroid, or PCOS?
I never thought to weigh the pre-portioned package stuff actually, I've just trusted the manufacturers. Didn't know it could be off by that much!
I did get tested for underactive thyroid a few years ago but it was normal at the time. I've wondered if I've got PCOS for a while but haven't had it checked.
Yep, if you really want to figure this out, commit to weighing out your portion of every darn thing you possibly can for at least the next 4 weeks. When you scan or search, double check the calories in the entry to your package. And do a gut check that you are logging every single thing - beverages, condiments, cooking oil, cooking nibbles, etc.
Log like it's a professional science experiment you're doing for awhile and I bet you'll find your problem. Hang in there :drinker:4 -
Thanks for the help everyone, I'll try weighing the pre-packaged stuff and check the MFP entries against the packaging. That could be it.3
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