CHEAT MEAL VS CHEAT DAY

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  • BrewerGeorge
    BrewerGeorge Posts: 397 Member
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    I don't call them cheat days, I call them 'free days.'

    But it seems that I might have a different philosophy from some of you because I eat just about whatever I want and DON'T consider it cheating as long as I stay below my calorie goals for the day. Like yesterday's lunch was Firehouse Subs NY Steamer (no mayo) with full-octane Vickie's potato chips. (760 Cal for the meal *ouch*) That throttled my afternoon snack back to 8 - count 'em - 8 raw almonds because that's all the room I had left on the calorie budget with the dinner I had planned.

    When I do have a free day I don't find myself changing what I eat as much as adding a couple/three beers to the evening. The last few weeks I haven't even been wanting to do that because I don't want to "mess up" a good day's numbers.
  • _Ben
    _Ben Posts: 1,608 Member
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    Just posted this in another thread, it applies though IMO. BTW go with a cheat meal:

    There is some science to this, its not a totally unfounded point, BUT some things to note:

    -your body has a certain amount of calories it burns everyday, just due to the fact that you are alive. This is the energy from sleeping, signals being sent throughout the body, and blood flow (not really so much so for your heart actually sustaining pumping, but the blood traveling)
    -ontop of that your base calorie usage, everything you do in a day, typing, walking, driving, sitting, even thinking burns calories

    With these two above things, we have established our Daily Calories Burned. For this explanation, lets say the daily amount you burn is 2,200 Calories (as per the FDA)

    Now everything you eat adds calories. So lets say combing your breakfast, lunch, and dinner (plus snacks), you eat 2,200 calories, which is known as our Gross Calories for the day. If we subtract our gross calories from our Daily Calories Burned, we get a number of 0, or 0 net calories. What this means is for the day, we did not gain, or lose any calories, in otherwords no weight change.

    With diet and exercise, we are changing those two variables, inorder to get a lower net calories, meaning more weight loss. So if you are eating less/healthier, that means you will have a lower gross calories, maybe of 1800. So 1800-2200 (daily calories burned)=-400. Just the same is true with adding exercise, you are making you Daily Calories Burned even higher, to make your net calories even lower, causing more weight loss.

    Im assuming everyone knows what I just posted above, but its important to say before moving into my main point.

    When your body gets used to a decreased calorie amount, it decreases the amount of calories it burns in a day. For example, if you are on a diet of only 1,600 as opposed to your old 2,200 calorie diet, you body may lower its Daily Calories Burned to somewhere like 1,800. That difference of 200 calories may be causing weight loss, but not as much as it did on the 2,200 Daily Calories Burned.

    The idea of a cheat day is that you eat more than you typically would, in hopes that your body will go back to a higher Daily Calories Burned. For example if you body is at the 1,800 calories and you trick it into going up to 2,200 calories, you will be bruning an extra 400 calories once you return to your diet again. So in idea, with a cheat day, you are trying to get your body to sustain that higher Daily Calories Burned, causeing faster weight loss


    BUT

    This can be dangerous if done wrong. The reasoning is this: Lets say you go all out, and on your cheat day eat 3,000 calories, which is 1,400 than the 1,600 calories you ate yesterday, almost double. The problem is without proper exercise (which increases not only your Daily Calories Burned, but also your metabolism) and other elements, you could actually GAIN weight. The reason is if you were eating 2,200 calories like you were prior to your diet, and then one day ate 3,000 calories, thats only a 800 calorie gain. If you are eating a 1,600 calorie diet (Daily Calories Burned of 1800), that is a 1200 calorie gain, which is significantly higher.
    Most people overdo cheat days, and thats why their benifits are normally lost or pointless. If you wanted to do a cheat day, increasing by only 400 calories or so is a safe bet, because it will increase your Daily Calories Burned, without causing any real potential for weight gain.

    Just as well, sometimes one day alone isnt enought for your body to react to the increase in calories. The best option really is to go for a zigzag diet. This is where you pretty much go 2 days with a higher calorie diet, than 3 lower, 2 higher, 3 lower. An example would be something like maybe going 2 days eating 1,800 calories, then 3 at 1,400. This will sustain a higher calories burned, but will not have any real potential for great weight gain.



    Wow that was a long post, hope it helped
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
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    I don't cheat. What I do is have 1 week, every three months, where I eat at maintenance. To figure what that is, go to Home > Goals and look at the right hand side for "calories burned from normal daily activity". That is considered your maintenance. So, for one full week every three months, I eat those calories every day. For me, that's about 1750. During that week, I can have my ice cream, my pasta, a larger breakfast, two slices of cheese on my wrap for lunch, a beer or two, etc. I do not go over and I don't eat the unhealthy foods I don't eat normally (fast food, preservatives, etc.). This helps reset my leptin levels and my sanity. The rest of the three months, I eat at or slightly under goal and I don't mind a bit.
  • BrewerGeorge
    BrewerGeorge Posts: 397 Member
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    I don't know about the rest of you all, but the logic behing MY free days is mental health, not trying to trick the body into burning more.
  • omgitsgarry
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    I go with a cheat day, because I don't log what I eat that day, but it mostly is just a meal unless company is over. If we have people over, the meal is out the door and it's a full blown day. I try not to feel bad about it. Over time, I've gotten better with my full out binges, so It's not like it's going to kill my scale anymore.
  • fyfi_fendir
    fyfi_fendir Posts: 64 Member
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    I agree with what is said before. Losing weight has been a lifestyle change for me. I have learned to cook vegetable better and cut off on carbs. I don't have cheat days, because I eat every day what I feel like it. I have shift to something more healthy than I used to but if I feel like burger or pizza I do. Chocolate is my absolute "peche mignon". I reward myself every 5lb lost with some but always count it in my calories like any other snack.
    The great advantage of tracking is that you know where you are at all time. It has often happened to me that it is 5pm, I have 500 cals left (enough for dinner), but I know today I really want some dessert. Then I exercise accordingly. It really helps to plan ahead, even log before you start eating.
    The only days I go over are generally when I am invited or eat out but I try to limit it to 2-3 times a months and if I can I'll make for it during the week by exercising more.
    This is a long process, if I am eating out and eat more then I will not lose weight that week... No big deal as long as it is not every week... Moderation is definitely the key.
  • theonlychuck
    theonlychuck Posts: 54 Member
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    I don't have a cheat day or even a cheat meal. For me, that seems too "diet-ish". This is a lifestyle change, so for me... eating what I want, when I want it - but in moderation is the way to go. I don't feel resentful or anything because I can have whatever I want to have. I make sure I have calories for it (or I go and workout to earn the calories for it!), I eat the serving size of it, I log it and I move on. For me, it keeps me from wanting to binge eat because I can have that Reese's peanut butter cup TODAY vs having to wait for a certain day or meal to have it!


    absolutely love this, it makes so much since!!
  • isyslove
    isyslove Posts: 64 Member
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    I don't have a cheat day or even a cheat meal. For me, that seems too "diet-ish". This is a lifestyle change, so for me... eating what I want, when I want it - but in moderation is the way to go. I don't feel resentful or anything because I can have whatever I want to have. I make sure I have calories for it (or I go and workout to earn the calories for it!), I eat the serving size of it, I log it and I move on. For me, it keeps me from wanting to binge eat because I can have that Reese's peanut butter cup TODAY vs having to wait for a certain day or meal to have it!

    That is exactly what I do, :D
  • shrinkingviolet23
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    I weigh in on a Friday so generally that is my "cheat day" however like someone else mentioned, it's a lifestyle change. I find that being good all through the week and having a bit of something naughty at the weekend is really working for me. My issue before is that every day was a cheat day!
  • fionat29
    fionat29 Posts: 717 Member
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    I don't cheat as such. If I know I'm going to want something that will take me over my cals I try very hard to make sure I do extra exercise to earn it!!
  • LisaMarieee
    LisaMarieee Posts: 176 Member
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    I treat myself with items that aren't food.
  • keiraev
    keiraev Posts: 695 Member
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    I never "plan" cheat days or meals exactly- but if I know I am going out for a meal at a restaurant, or I am going to my folks for a couple of days I will give myself a break and either exercise more to make up for it, or make sure I get back on the wagon straight after. It stops me having those feelings I used to have like I had "blown" it.

    I think it would be a bad idea if I decided every Friday was a "cheat day" for example. Like someone else says it's just life sometime.

    I just came back from holiday where I probably drank my bodyweight in cocktails each night- not healthy at all but lets just say it was a "cheat" five days lol When I got home I stopped drinking any alcohol and started eating my calorie allowance again, and when I weighed myself today (a couple of days after I came home) I hadn't put on any weight. It's good to know it can be done once in a while without any serious damage- u just have to make sure you don't let it all go out of the window because of a few indulgences.
  • marktaunton
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    If you was SERIOUSLY over weight, then once a month would be adequate. As you are not over weight, once a week or at best once a fortnight would surfice for you.

    I honestly hate females who think that they are overweight when they are not. Most of their problems are pyschological.

    You are a beautiful woman and should be happy with your size.

    Personally I am 9 stone, always have been all my life, never really shifting, for us blokes, women tend to go for big bad boys. Either fat or muscle. They want someone to protect, I am already a bad boy, but just want the meat to go with it.

    Just please do not lose too much weight so that you go into anorexic stage.

    Personally for me, big girls are beautiful, give me a 16/18 dress size any day.
  • Cakepiebeer
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    I don't cheat as such. If I know I'm going to want something that will take me over my cals I try very hard to make sure I do extra exercise to earn it!!

    That's what i'm saying. Make yourself earn it!
  • ScarlettVamp
    ScarlettVamp Posts: 828 Member
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    I give myself a "splurge day" every 4 weeks on a Saturday. I generally eat one meal that is a favorite but too high in fat/calories to be something I eat on a regular basis. I say it's a "day", but usually it's just one meal. I do go over my calories for the day and I do log my food that day. Today was "splurge day" and I not only had a splurge meal at lunch, but I also picked up a new shirt on sale at the mall. Double splurge!! - But only one made me go over my calorie goal. :smile:
  • xBeautifulBreakdown
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    I weigh in on a Friday so generally that is my "cheat day" however like someone else mentioned, it's a lifestyle change. I find that being good all through the week and having a bit of something naughty at the weekend is really working for me. My issue before is that every day was a cheat day!

    That is exactly what got me here haha EVERYDAY was a cheat day, well not anymore!
  • xBeautifulBreakdown
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    If you was SERIOUSLY over weight, then once a month would be adequate. As you are not over weight, once a week or at best once a fortnight would surfice for you.

    I honestly hate females who think that they are overweight when they are not. Most of their problems are pyschological.

    You are a beautiful woman and should be happy with your size.

    Personally I am 9 stone, always have been all my life, never really shifting, for us blokes, women tend to go for big bad boys. Either fat or muscle. They want someone to protect, I am already a bad boy, but just want the meat to go with it.

    Just please do not lose too much weight so that you go into anorexic stage.

    Personally for me, big girls are beautiful, give me a 16/18 dress size any day.

    Thank you for being so kind but trust me, I AM, overweight, sometime I carry it well and people would not know I am the weight that I am. I am more concerned with feeling good, looking good and being healthy. I would NEVER lose too much weight. I am not the kind of girl who wants to be "Model Skinny" I always say "I would rather be fat than TOO skinny"
  • bobbybdoe
    bobbybdoe Posts: 472 Member
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    I have a cheat day once every week. Keeps me from binging randomly throughout the week.

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  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
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    I have a cheat day once every week. Keeps me from binging randomly throughout the week.

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    This is excellent.

    I don't cheat because I do as I please and I lose it with ease.
  • bobbybdoe
    bobbybdoe Posts: 472 Member
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    I have a cheat day once every week. Keeps me from binging randomly throughout the week.

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    This is excellent.

    I don't cheat because I do as I please and I lose it with ease.

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