Broken body?
storminacoffeemug9
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The following has happened to me frequently over the last couple of years - yes I recognise I am in an unhealthy cycle...
When I eat 'normal' which by that I mean not trying to lose, my day typically looks like this:
Breakfast: coffee
Dinner: nothing OR pasty/1.5 sandwich with cake/pastry & crisps
Tea: massive meal of pasta or rice with meat and veg (usually around 8pm)
Evening: alcohol and high calorie snacks
When I have logged the calorie intake on these days, we are roughly looking at 3500-4000.
Then I have a period of wanting to diet. I will have small healthy meals, few snacks, no alcohol and track on here with the calories on 1200 as recommended. I frequently do this for four days then break and have the weekend eating like a pig again. Occasionally I have managed to keep to it for a week or two weeks and see a loss of 2-3lb though sometimes only 1lb. This demotivates me so I switch back to 'normal' again for a couple of weeks.
I tried slimming world and WW a couple of times each but ended up gaining weight on both. The most I lost was 5lb one week on WW but then 'celebrated' for the weekend and gained 6lb the next. On both SW & WW I would generally keep to the diet most days but allow myself weigh day off or even the weekend off where I would eat/drink to excess again. I know this means I didnt actually follow these diets and any loss was actually just a fluke.
Before christmas I was very strict and kept to no alcohol/1200 calories for 14 days. The first week I lost 6lb, the second 3lb. Then I allowed myself a week off for christmas, which turned into two I regained the 9lb I lost and an additional 3lb. I tried again, admittedly only 80% as strict for the next two weeks and lost nothing. Obviously in my head I then lost it completely and ate/drank everything again.
I know I fail at dieting and eating healthy. I know I never do it right. I dont need telling any of that. What I dont understand is how I regularly over the last few years can drop from 4000 calories a day to 1200 and not lose anything Is my body broken? If I try again will I even succeed?
When I eat 'normal' which by that I mean not trying to lose, my day typically looks like this:
Breakfast: coffee
Dinner: nothing OR pasty/1.5 sandwich with cake/pastry & crisps
Tea: massive meal of pasta or rice with meat and veg (usually around 8pm)
Evening: alcohol and high calorie snacks
When I have logged the calorie intake on these days, we are roughly looking at 3500-4000.
Then I have a period of wanting to diet. I will have small healthy meals, few snacks, no alcohol and track on here with the calories on 1200 as recommended. I frequently do this for four days then break and have the weekend eating like a pig again. Occasionally I have managed to keep to it for a week or two weeks and see a loss of 2-3lb though sometimes only 1lb. This demotivates me so I switch back to 'normal' again for a couple of weeks.
I tried slimming world and WW a couple of times each but ended up gaining weight on both. The most I lost was 5lb one week on WW but then 'celebrated' for the weekend and gained 6lb the next. On both SW & WW I would generally keep to the diet most days but allow myself weigh day off or even the weekend off where I would eat/drink to excess again. I know this means I didnt actually follow these diets and any loss was actually just a fluke.
Before christmas I was very strict and kept to no alcohol/1200 calories for 14 days. The first week I lost 6lb, the second 3lb. Then I allowed myself a week off for christmas, which turned into two I regained the 9lb I lost and an additional 3lb. I tried again, admittedly only 80% as strict for the next two weeks and lost nothing. Obviously in my head I then lost it completely and ate/drank everything again.
I know I fail at dieting and eating healthy. I know I never do it right. I dont need telling any of that. What I dont understand is how I regularly over the last few years can drop from 4000 calories a day to 1200 and not lose anything Is my body broken? If I try again will I even succeed?
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No it’s not broken. Weight loss takes time. You can’t lose if you can’t stick to it for more two weeks. It takes consistency and dedication.
I want add this. 1200 calories maybe too low for you. What are stats?6 -
Why are you aiming for 1200? How tall are you, what is your starting weight and goal weight? 1200 might be too low for you, especially if you're taller than about 5'2" (160cm). 1200 is the minimum MFP will allow for women - are you trying to lose 2lb per week? That might be too aggressive a rate of loss for you, try 1lb or 1/2lb per week.4
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Hi there! Your body isn't broken.
It's a lot to ask any system to run at 100% (3500 calories of low quality fuel) then immediately switch to running at 30% even with a premium fuel (1200 calories with better food choices)
Pardon the analogy but consider titrating down your calories every other week. Or even every three weeks. There's no rush to weight loss or gaining healthy habits.
Furthermore, not everyone needs to go to rock bottom 1200 calories. And even if you do, it
- more often than not - shouldn't be for an extended period of time. Recalculate your TDEE regularly (I do so the first of each month, for example)
I suggest you meander in the forums to read some threads with other MFPers who may have started with a similar mindset to yours but have accomplished a lot as they work on their health goals.🤗4 -
When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.3 -
This was/is me. I'm a bartender too so late nights, fast food, drinking is a big part of it. I'm 5 foot 3 and I was probably on those calories for a few years. I hate thinking about it but I get you!
Thing is, it's hard. Sugar crashes were my nemesis so eating 3 meals a day helped I think. Energy crashes made me binge sugar and that was a vicious cycle.
I'd recommend trying to commit to mfp for a month and see how you get on. I'm about 3 months in now and I've lost 13 pounds. It works!
Slow and steady, eat regular meals, try to stick within your recommended calories and BE NICE TO YOURSELF! If you eat too much one day, try again. You can't fail if it's a lifestyle change😊2 -
Walking is good and pick a slower weight loss rate. Slower is better and easier.6
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At your height and weight 1200 cal a day is too little, that's why it doesn't last long. Just my take--you keep swinging between 2 extremes and you're not getting anywhere. Why not take the middle road? How many cals does MFP give you for a 1 lb a week loss? That way you won't starve yourself and should be able to control binges.
Get a digital food scale and start weighing and measuring all your food and drink. Stay within your goal every day. It will be easier. I don't know how old you are, but movement is very good. Just walking is great, if you like that. Make it a habit and it will help with a myriad of problems. Once you find the groove things get easier. Keep trying and you'll need patience and persistence. 2 weeks is nothing. Just keep going no matter what. Luck.4 -
Hi there! Your body isn't broken.
It's a lot to ask any system to run at 100% (3500 calories of low quality fuel) then immediately switch to running at 30% even with a premium fuel (1200 calories with better food choices)
This makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean by "titrating down your calories every other week"?
And what is TDEE?0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »At your height and weight 1200 cal a day is too little, that's why it doesn't last long. Just my take--you keep swinging between 2 extremes and you're not getting anywhere. Why not take the middle road? How many cals does MFP give you for a 1 lb a week loss? That way you won't starve yourself and should be able to control binges.
Get a digital food scale and start weighing and measuring all your food and drink. Stay within your goal every day. It will be easier. I don't know how old you are, but movement is very good. Just walking is great, if you like that. Make it a habit and it will help with a myriad of problems. Once you find the groove things get easier. Keep trying and you'll need patience and persistence. 2 weeks is nothing. Just keep going no matter what. Luck.
Thank you for this advice.
I recently had to buy a digital scale. My son was diagnosed type 1 diabetic and celiac at the beginning of January so since I'm weighing and measuring everything for him, it's a perfect opportunity to focus on my own food too.6 -
storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
OK, so 1200 and 2lb per week is way, way, way too aggressive for your height and the amount you have to lose. Set your loss rate at 1/2 lb per week, activity level Lightly Active. Walking is perfectly good exercise - you can build up to longer walks as your health allows. Commit to that for 6-8 weeks and see where you are.
I'm 5'3" (shorter than you), 244 (heavier than you), and I'm losing about a pound per week on double that calorie budget - I average about 2650 cal/day. I do exercise daily for about half an hour in the mornings, but I'm sure that doesn't get me more than about 250-300 additional calories burned over TDEE, and I have a desk job, so I'm basically on my *kitten* the rest of the time.6 -
Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high1
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storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high
It’s not.9 -
goal06082021 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
OK, so 1200 and 2lb per week is way, way, way too aggressive for your height and the amount you have to lose. Set your loss rate at 1/2 lb per week, activity level Lightly Active. Walking is perfectly good exercise - you can build up to longer walks as your health allows. Commit to that for 6-8 weeks and see where you are.
I'm 5'3" (shorter than you), 244 (heavier than you), and I'm losing about a pound per week on double that calorie budget - I average about 2650 cal/day. I do exercise daily for about half an hour in the mornings, but I'm sure that doesn't get me more than about 250-300 additional calories burned over TDEE, and I have a desk job, so I'm basically on my *kitten* the rest of the time.
Ok. I will do this.
February is a perfect four week month so I will commit to the four weeks and see what happens.
Thank you x1 -
storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »goal06082021 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
OK, so 1200 and 2lb per week is way, way, way too aggressive for your height and the amount you have to lose. Set your loss rate at 1/2 lb per week, activity level Lightly Active. Walking is perfectly good exercise - you can build up to longer walks as your health allows. Commit to that for 6-8 weeks and see where you are.
I'm 5'3" (shorter than you), 244 (heavier than you), and I'm losing about a pound per week on double that calorie budget - I average about 2650 cal/day. I do exercise daily for about half an hour in the mornings, but I'm sure that doesn't get me more than about 250-300 additional calories burned over TDEE, and I have a desk job, so I'm basically on my *kitten* the rest of the time.
Ok. I will do this.
February is a perfect four week month so I will commit to the four weeks and see what happens.
Thank you x
I mean commit to it for the four weeks initially so I dont feel overwhelmed. I intend to do it for longer. I have to.4 -
storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high
You need to try it for several weeks and see how it goes. You can always add or subtract calories then. However, for someone that eats 3500-4000 calories when "letting go", 1750 seems a lot less. As we're all saying--middle of the road, not extremes. You need to change your mindset.4 -
snowflake954 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high
You need to try it for several weeks and see how it goes. You can always add or subtract calories then. However, for someone that eats 3500-4000 calories when "letting go", 1750 seems a lot less. As we're all saying--middle of the road, not extremes. You need to change your mindset.
Yes I understand.
I honestly never thought of it as going from one extreme to the other, I just thought going from a lot of calories to a little would equal a big weekly loss for the first few months.
Thank you.2 -
storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high
You need to try it for several weeks and see how it goes. You can always add or subtract calories then. However, for someone that eats 3500-4000 calories when "letting go", 1750 seems a lot less. As we're all saying--middle of the road, not extremes. You need to change your mindset.
Yes I understand.
I honestly never thought of it as going from one extreme to the other, I just thought going from a lot of calories to a little would equal a big weekly loss for the first few months.
Thank you.
I mean, you're right, it would. The problem is that that's not safe or sustainable - you've seen yourself it's not sustainable for more than a couple of weeks for you, and I think that's true of most people, anyone would be hard-pressed to sustain that for very long. Extreme calorie restriction puts a lot of stress on the body, which makes life in general much harder than it needs to be. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint. Speed isn't the name of the game here, it's sustainability.
When you reach GW, you will still need to eat and food will still have calories. So, in the process of becoming a person who weighs 10st, you need to learn how to eat like a person who weighs 10st. But jumping straight there will just result in you starving and suffering the whole time, and then when you get to 10st you'll feel like you're "done" doing whatever it is and go back to your normal life...which is how you got to 17st. So, start eating like someone who weighs 16st until you weigh 16st. Then start eating like someone who weighs 15st until you get there. It's a gradual process, I'm sure you've seen people use the term "lifestyle change" and that's what it really has to be.10 -
goal06082021 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high
You need to try it for several weeks and see how it goes. You can always add or subtract calories then. However, for someone that eats 3500-4000 calories when "letting go", 1750 seems a lot less. As we're all saying--middle of the road, not extremes. You need to change your mindset.
Yes I understand.
I honestly never thought of it as going from one extreme to the other, I just thought going from a lot of calories to a little would equal a big weekly loss for the first few months.
Thank you.
I mean, you're right, it would. The problem is that that's not safe or sustainable - you've seen yourself it's not sustainable for more than a couple of weeks for you, and I think that's true of most people, anyone would be hard-pressed to sustain that for very long. Extreme calorie restriction puts a lot of stress on the body, which makes life in general much harder than it needs to be. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint. Speed isn't the name of the game here, it's sustainability.
When you reach GW, you will still need to eat and food will still have calories. So, in the process of becoming a person who weighs 10st, you need to learn how to eat like a person who weighs 10st. But jumping straight there will just result in you starving and suffering the whole time, and then when you get to 10st you'll feel like you're "done" doing whatever it is and go back to your normal life...which is how you got to 17st. So, start eating like someone who weighs 16st until you weigh 16st. Then start eating like someone who weighs 15st until you get there. It's a gradual process, I'm sure you've seen people use the term "lifestyle change" and that's what it really has to be.
That's really well explained, thank you. I can see I was thinking of things all the wrong way around and when people spoke about a lifestyle change that it had to be 100% full on straight away and no slip ups. It sounds a lot simpler and easier to follow when you put it the way you have there and I will be able to follow that much better without feeling like a failure.
Thank you for taking the time to explain things to me.4 -
This really resonates with me.
When you succeed in losing, you celebrate and fall off the wagon. When you don't lose, you despair and fall off the wagon. I think (for me at least, maybe for you) it is because of an unhealthy mindset with regards food which diet alone can't fix. For whatever reason, for some of us food becomes our reward, our comfort, our coping mechanism. And so when we have to moderate it, we're not just moderating how full we feel or how our bodies feel. We're having to moderate our emotions and our feelings and the thing we've relied on to support them.
And that's tough. Really tough. So first off, give yourself a break. Go easy on yourself and forgive yourself when you get it wrong. You're asking a lot of your body and your mind.
I haven't it sussed yet. I'm a month in to trying to restrict calories to lose 2lbs a week (I'm 5' 8" and started at 220lbs). I'm on 1750 calories a day on average. It is frustratingly slow. After my first week with lots of water weight loss, I've averaged 4lbs in three weeks. Lower than I want, and lower than my calories in/calories out imply I should be losing. But I've tried to change my mindset this time: it's a marathon, not a sprint. There's all sorts of things going on in my body that I don't understand with water weight or other fluctuations. So I'm sticking to my plan for at least a few months to see how I get on.
But I absolutely understand the impulse to ditch it all when the scales seem to go in the wrong direction (or the right direction too slowly) and to celebrate with food when it goes well. This is the longest I've lasted on this sort of approach - starting week five.
Things that have worked for me, that might be worth trying for you:
(1) Don't rule anything out. If you want chocolate, have chocolate. Just have it within your calorie limit.
(2) Do baby steps. Start by getting your meals right. If you snack loads around your meals, fine - just focus on one bit at a time. Maybe spend a week or two making sure you're getting a good filling breakfast. Then maybe add focus on your lunch. Then a few weeks later focus on dinner. Or do it all at once if you can manage it. It's not about saying you're not allowed to snack, it's about consciously giving your body the best chance of not wanting to snack - except as part of planned snacking within your calories.
(3) Give yourself LOTS of water. When you want to reach for crisps, drink a glass of water. When you want a chocolate bar, give yourself a glass of water first. You're not saying NO to the snacking, you're just saying 'later, after I've drank this 500ml of water'. You might still want the snack afterwards. Of the drink might just remind your body that it doesn't need the snack, and you remember that you'd prefer to have your chocolate later on after dinner when you'll enjoy it more.
(4) Log everything. Before you have it. By logging all my meals for the day in the morning, I know how many calories I can then use for other things, including snacks. That again means that nothing is forbidden, you're just making a choice about which snacks you want on a specific day. And logging in advance is great at giving you pause to think 'do I really want these crisps now when I could have two small chocolate bars tonight instead'. Seeing the calories in black and white before you eat something is a great way of stopping grazing and making better decisions but without telling yourself that certain things are verboten.
(5) Allow yourself some time each week when you can have a bit more freedom without thinking of it as a cheat day or a free for all. Still weigh and log everything. Still aim for three solid meals. Just give yourself some extra calories to play around with. This will mean you can still have those high calorie treats that you might not fit into your calorie allowance most days, and avoid feeling deprived. For me it's cakes and biscuits - during the week I have some go to chocolate bars that are low calorie but nice and satisfying (Curly Wurly's are only 97 calories!) but sometimes I just want a nice chunk of buttery shortbread or cake. Knowing that I can incorporate them into my week helps me avoid feeling like I'm on a diet.
(6) Find something you like doing that you can't or won't do while eating. Go for a walk. Knit. Play video games. Have these activities on reserve for when your head hunger is getting to you. And when you just can't shake that 'I want to stuff my face but i can't because it will put me over my calories' feeling, do your activity. Something to take your mind off it.
(7) Understand your strengths and weaknesses. My strength is that I don't need variety in my meals. I can have really boring meals and that's ok with me. So I can do really predictable calories, and make choices that make my meals more dull but cut calories. My weakness is sweets. Once you know what your strengths are, you can maximise them. And you can use them to combat your weaknesses.
I'm still early on - so these might still fail me. And I have not yet grappled with the emotional side of my eating. But these rules have helped me for the last month, so fingers crossed they'll keep me going.6 -
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storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
It is beneficial to have alcohol in the house, or go to places with it?
From your story it sounded like that probably made it easier to overdue the snacks which must have been the majority of those calories.
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You've been given a lot of great advice already, but I'll just add my 2 cents: I don't think your body is broken, but perhaps you are going about losing weight in an "all-or nothing" approach. So, it may not be your body that's "broken," but maybe your mindset about weight loss.
I used to have that kind of mindset about weight loss, that it was about going on a "diet" or "counting points" etc., without truly viewing it as a lifestyle change. Yes, I'd heard about weight loss being a "lifestyle change" and "not a diet," but I don't know if I fully accepted that mentality in the past. When that was the case, I'd do like you did--lose some (or a lot), then gain it back.
What changed for me, I think, was viewing this as a lifestyle change for my overall health and wellbeing, not just as a way to lose weight. Having that bigger (and to me, more important) goal kind of actually took the pressure off of doing it to look a certain way by a certain time. I also set a more modest weight-loss goal, which I'd advise for you, too. Perhaps look at a goal initially of 1-pound loss per week, then decrease to .5-lb per week once you get closer to your goal. Yes, it will take longer, but if you truly want to keep it off, it shouldn't matter in the long run.
Since you're attempting a lifestyle change and not just a quick fix, you'll want to think about tackling it in small steps. Right a few down that you think you'd be able to accomplish, then as you meet those goals, add a few more. It won't feel so overwhelming that way, and more sustainable. Maybe it's just committing to tracking what you eat, then after you've done that for a few weeks, see where you can make some changes. Maybe it's cutting down on the alcohol and/or drinking more water. ...whatever resonates with you. I know some people have given advice of what has worked for them, but also keep in mind that weight loss is individual. What works for some may not work for you!
Good luck, you can do this!2 -
What I would address is your depression and anxiety. Which likely is leading to your inconsistency with eating behavior. Therapist here would help to identify and help you get through it. Which then intern helps with self confidence and weight loss. It's a double win.
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storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
Like others have said, do choose a less aggressive rate of loss.storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Just set it to 1lb loss per week and it says 1750 calories. This seems very high
You need to try it for several weeks and see how it goes. You can always add or subtract calories then. However, for someone that eats 3500-4000 calories when "letting go", 1750 seems a lot less. As we're all saying--middle of the road, not extremes. You need to change your mindset.
Yes I understand.
I honestly never thought of it as going from one extreme to the other, I just thought going from a lot of calories to a little would equal a big weekly loss for the first few months.
Thank you.3 -
storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »Hi there! Your body isn't broken.
It's a lot to ask any system to run at 100% (3500 calories of low quality fuel) then immediately switch to running at 30% even with a premium fuel (1200 calories with better food choices)
This makes a lot of sense.
What do you mean by "titrating down your calories every other week"?
And what is TDEE?
The titration aspect seems to have been covered already: essentially, work your way down slowly to 1750. February would be a fun month to do so. Like, if we're me...
Week 1: 3,000 cal/per day (but try one 2,500 cal day)
Week 2: 2,500 cal/ per day (but try one 2,000 cal day)
Week 3: 2,000 cal/per day (but try one 1,750 cal day)
Week 4: 1,750 cal/per day (but consider one 2,000 - 2,500 cal day) and see if you can sustain this for next month. Then in April, recalculate your TDEE and try fewer 2,000-2,500 cal days
TDEE and BMR calculations are basically handled by MFP. That's how you got your new number for 1,750 calories/day.
I like using...
http://tdeecalculator.net
And ALL of the above is to be taken with a grain of salt because checking in with your healthcare team is always the better approach.2 -
No judgement..... but, sounds like you do the classic restrict and binge cycles. Until you find an eating pattern you like and can maintain in the long run, weight loss and maintenance is going to be hard.3
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storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
Just a suggestion to think about.
If/when you have bad days or bad weeks when it all feels too hard have a plan ready for those times - a plan that has you maintaining weight to consolidate progress rather than throwing in the towel and regaining everything you have lost.
If you don't slip back you will get to your end goal, maybe later rather than sooner but that's far preferable to yo-yo'ing between boom and bust. You need to break that destructive cycle.
Best wishes.4 -
goal06082021 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
OK, so 1200 and 2lb per week is way, way, way too aggressive for your height and the amount you have to lose. Set your loss rate at 1/2 lb per week, activity level Lightly Active. Walking is perfectly good exercise - you can build up to longer walks as your health allows. Commit to that for 6-8 weeks and see where you are.
I'm 5'3" (shorter than you), 244 (heavier than you), and I'm losing about a pound per week on double that calorie budget - I average about 2650 cal/day. I do exercise daily for about half an hour in the mornings, but I'm sure that doesn't get me more than about 250-300 additional calories burned over TDEE, and I have a desk job, so I'm basically on my *kitten* the rest of the time.
Someone like OP with a BMI in the severely obese range can afford to lose more than a half pound per week.3 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »goal06082021 wrote: »storminacoffeemug9 wrote: »When I set up MFP and said to lose 2lb it recommended 1200 so I just trusted it. However, I did look at another app which said 1324 was my target allowance so I really dont know.
5 foot 8", currently 17 stone 1lb (239lb). I would like to be somewhere between 10.5 to 11 stone.
Pretty much sedentary most of the time but started to go for daily walks at the beginning of the year mostly for mental health reasons to be honest rather than exercise as I get out of breath very fast.
I have a lower back and pelvis issue which limits movement. I have severe depression and anxiety too.
OK, so 1200 and 2lb per week is way, way, way too aggressive for your height and the amount you have to lose. Set your loss rate at 1/2 lb per week, activity level Lightly Active. Walking is perfectly good exercise - you can build up to longer walks as your health allows. Commit to that for 6-8 weeks and see where you are.
I'm 5'3" (shorter than you), 244 (heavier than you), and I'm losing about a pound per week on double that calorie budget - I average about 2650 cal/day. I do exercise daily for about half an hour in the mornings, but I'm sure that doesn't get me more than about 250-300 additional calories burned over TDEE, and I have a desk job, so I'm basically on my *kitten* the rest of the time.
Someone like OP with a BMI in the severely obese range can afford to lose more than a half pound per week.
Sure, but clearly they tend to go too hard and burn out, so I'm suggesting they start smaller and ease into it. Just because they can doesn't mean they have to.3 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »*snip*
Someone like OP with a BMI in the severely obese range can afford to lose more than a half pound per week.
Mathematically, sure. Clinically, perhaps. Mentally, probable.
However since CICO isn't just about the math and a person's medical history needs to be considered as well as their mindset to start (and then sustain) a long-term health improvement process, it's not for any of us to say.
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