6 inches off the stomach but only 9lbs down..
hillbob1990
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Hi Everyone,
I'm after some advice please. I seem to be losing weight at an incredibly slow pace but with impressive inch loss from my stomach. I want to speed my weight loss up but I also don't want to stop exercising as I'm starting to really enjoy it.
Here are my stats:
start 194 lbs. Height 5ft female age 30 stomach 47 inch. Around 80 lbs to lose.
Week 1 - 6lb loss
Week 2 - 1lb gain
Week 3 - 2lb loss
Week 4 - 1.5lb loss
Week 5 -.0.5lb loss
Typically I am losing an inch off my stomach a week.
I started off eating around 1000 calories a day exercising 3 x a week ( some strength training and walks.) This has steadily improved to 4 times a week and has become much more intense a mix of cardio and strength sessions. I am hooked on exercise and I don't want to stop!
I'm working from home at the moment so not active at all really apart from planned exercise. I aim to drink 2-3 litres a day.
Okay so I feel like I have tried everything. I spent a week (week 3) upping my calories to 1400 - no change. I have tried drinking 3 litres a day and green tea after meals - no change.
I have read that this can happen for two reasons 1) I'm gaining muscle and glycogen/water weight from the used muscles. 2) my body is in a stress mode and holding weight so I should stop exercising.
Can someone please advise 1) why this is happening? 2) what I can do to speed weight loss up? 3) what I should aim to eat? 4) how much exercise I should aim to do a week?
I just want the best results in as short as time as possible.
Much appreciated.
Emily 😊
I'm after some advice please. I seem to be losing weight at an incredibly slow pace but with impressive inch loss from my stomach. I want to speed my weight loss up but I also don't want to stop exercising as I'm starting to really enjoy it.
Here are my stats:
start 194 lbs. Height 5ft female age 30 stomach 47 inch. Around 80 lbs to lose.
Week 1 - 6lb loss
Week 2 - 1lb gain
Week 3 - 2lb loss
Week 4 - 1.5lb loss
Week 5 -.0.5lb loss
Typically I am losing an inch off my stomach a week.
I started off eating around 1000 calories a day exercising 3 x a week ( some strength training and walks.) This has steadily improved to 4 times a week and has become much more intense a mix of cardio and strength sessions. I am hooked on exercise and I don't want to stop!
I'm working from home at the moment so not active at all really apart from planned exercise. I aim to drink 2-3 litres a day.
Okay so I feel like I have tried everything. I spent a week (week 3) upping my calories to 1400 - no change. I have tried drinking 3 litres a day and green tea after meals - no change.
I have read that this can happen for two reasons 1) I'm gaining muscle and glycogen/water weight from the used muscles. 2) my body is in a stress mode and holding weight so I should stop exercising.
Can someone please advise 1) why this is happening? 2) what I can do to speed weight loss up? 3) what I should aim to eat? 4) how much exercise I should aim to do a week?
I just want the best results in as short as time as possible.
Much appreciated.
Emily 😊
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Strength training will typically cause water retention (for muscle repair) masking fat loss on the scale. And shaving yourself stressed the body even further, leading to even more water retention.
Why are you in such a hurry and stretching yourself by eating only 1000 calories? Faster weight loss is not better, it risky for your health and it's not sustainable.
Furthermore, it takes time to see a weight loss trend, sucking strategies weekly is just going to confuse the trend.
And it's not even like you're not progressing already, you've lost a lot of inches already.
- Stick to a strategy for 4 to 8 weeks (a strategy that doesn't involve eating only 1000 calories!)
- change your mindset. You don't need to lose weight faster at all. You've lost 9 lbs over 5 weeks, that's fast already, it's not reasonable to expect even more.
- use a weight trending app like Libra or Happyscale to follow your weight trend. It's normal to have well to week fluctuations. The 1lb gain for example in the 2nd week is perfectly normal after a huge 6 lb loss (a lot of water weight) the week before.8 -
The best results don't mostly come in the shortest time possible, because that's impossible, in the real world. The best results usually come from slow and steady, tedious though that may be.
1000 calories is too few for any normal-sized adult. Don't do that.
Stress causes water retention. Eating way too little is a stressor. If you're losing many inches but few pounds, that's a very strong possibility. Increased exercise also causes water retention. Water isn't fat, so it's not worth worrying about, even if it makes things look messed-up on the bodyweight scale. Eat a sensible amount, exercise a sensible amount, try to have a balanced and satisfying life alongside losing weight at a sustainable pace, and it'll sort itself out.
You're not gaining muscle, sadly. Muscle gain is very slow (pound or two per month would be great results) under ideal circumstances, and ideal circumstances include a calorie *surplus*, i.e., weight gain, plus a well-designed progressive strength training program faithfully performed, well-rounded nutrition (especially but not exclusively adequate protein), relative youth, maleness, and more. You're extremely unlikely to gain muscle at all eating 1000 calories.
How much water (or other fluids) you drink is irrelevant to weight loss, though it can matter for health, or help you feel full in some cases.
At 194 pounds, eat what MFP tells you to eat for 1-1.5 pounds loss per week, when you set your activity level based on daily life excluding exercise. Log your exercise, and eat those calories, too. Make the process as easy as possible, because even if you tried to go fast, you're going to be at this for literally months, so it makes more sense to make it sustainable . . . and that's less of a health risk, besides.
If this seems harsh, I'm sorry. Try to think of me as your cranky, outspoken, but concerned old internet auntie who'd like to see you succeed, because I'm surely old enough to be that. Settle into a routine with a sensible number of calories, eating things that give you decent nutrition and mostly keep you satisfied, and hang in there. Results will come.15 -
Thank you. I am part of a weight loss group where most people are losing 2-3lbs a week and I wondered why mine was slower. So do you suggest I just keep doing what I am doing (exercising 4 days a week) maybe up my calories to 1200 a day and log my weight flunctuations? Do you anticipate that the weight loss will catch up with the fat loss at a later date?3
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hillbob1990 wrote: »Thank you. I am part of a weight loss group where most people are losing 2-3lbs a week and I wondered why mine was slower. So do you suggest I just keep doing what I am doing (exercising 4 days a week) maybe up my calories to 1200 a day and log my weight flunctuations? Do you anticipate that the weight loss will catch up with the fat loss at a later date?
I suggest you up your calories to whatever MFP tells you for losing 1-1.5 pounds per week, and find an easy, sustainable path. (1200 *plus* all exercise calories was too few for me, when I started at just below your weight - got weak and fatigued, no one needs that!) Yes, keep exercising, as long as you feel good (it isn't sapping your energy, keeping you from doing other important things in your life, etc.). Exercise is good for us, in diverse ways. Think of it as finding a health-promoting exercise routine for life, something enjoyable, not as a quick route to faster weight loss.
I do anticipate that if you follow MFP's calories for 1-1.5 pounds loss per week, you'll see weight loss on the scale after the water weight weirdness sorts itself out. Even now, you're averaging around 2 pounds a week, which IMO is faster than ideal at your current weight.
Don't compare yourself to others: Comparison is the thief of joy. Can you visualize yourself sticking with this routine for many months? Undereating - losing too fast - often comes home to roost, either in periodic overeating episodes when it just gets too hard, or in giving up altogether.
Even if you were to lose at 3 pounds a week (a bad idea, health-wise, IMO), you'd be at that for 6 months. Is that kind of punitive routine for 6 months realistic? Even if it happens, then what? How do you keep those pounds off after that?
Treating weight loss as a project with an end date, after which you "go back to normal" is a recipe for regaining pounds with friends, the yo-yo scenario. I encourage you to take a more moderate approach, learn new habits along the way that you can keep up long term, to keep the weight off permanently. That can work very well.
I'm not speaking from theory, nor is Lietchi up there. I lost 50+ pounds with MFP, obese to a healthy weight, back in 2015, and have stayed at a healthy weight since. From experience (including some mistakes), I encourage you to think about how to make it easy and sustainable, not about how to make it fast.17 -
Can I just also point out that the goal is to actually lose the inches and scale weight doesn't really mean much?12
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Can I just also point out that the goal is to actually lose the inches and scale weight doesn't really mean much?
Absolutely! And when I look at the results in terms of inches I am doing exceptionally well. I just wonders at what point the weight would catch up. I mean if if I continued at this rate I would have a 28 inch waist and still be 2.5 stone overweight. I'm assuming the inches will slow down and the weight loss go up but just wondered when that might be.3 -
Why do you want to lose weight? I mean, truly. Is it the actual number on the scale you care about? Not your dress size or appearance or increased fitness? I'm not trying to be facetious, because I do understand that losing weight is a good measure of success, but you are losing size at an impressive rate. Well done! Enjoy the success. The scale change will come eventually.3
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Eat more. Lose slower. Or stay the course. But don't seek to accelerate. Success is shape change, increased relative strength and mobility and health, reduced weight * length of time the successful conditions are kept.
You're already going as fast or faster than you probably should in terms of weight loss, so your optimal speed adjustment is probably the opposite of what you think!
Use a weight trend app and think of your current weight as being your trending weight. Think long term.
Reality check is that very few people retain a weight loss for 2 years. Fewer for 5. Most of the people who "fail" are not morally corrupt "losers" who failed to punish themselves enough to lose weight faster. But, many of them did treat weight loss as their main project instead of treating RETAINING weight loss as their project.
I will be extremely harsh. How many people in your weight loss group have managed to come down in weight AND keep it of for a few years? Are they the examples you want to draw on and emulate? I would rather get ideas (after making changes that suit myself and my lifestyle as opposed to blindly following everything) from participants in the weight control registry in spite any issues I may have with their data collection and analysis.
Look for sustainably in what you do. Look to setting a direction and making it easy for you to continue in that direction for years; not months.
I am male. Very active from a starting position of completely inactive. Similar relative obesity starting point to you, op, even though in lbs I lost 1.5* what you want to in order to get into the normal weight range. I averaged 1.5 lbs a week my first year on mfp. It was as fast or faster than optimal.
I do want to address something often said that is technically correct but leaves people discouraged instead of energized.
If you define muscle growth as the creation of new muscle fibers then yes that creation is progressively less prioritized by the body the larger the deficit. However not optimally prioritized does not equal not effective and does not equal that it is not the best alternative given a particular starting point.
Furthermore, one of the main issues is energy availability. And an untrained obese person is at an optimal position to gain muscle due to being untrained and having ample energy reserves.
Does this mean that you will gain so much muscle that you won't see scale progress? NO.
It does mean though that you have an extra "water weight" factor that will obscure your actual fat loss a bit. Which is fine. Because working muscles far outweigh low numbers
Furthermore, water retention for muscle repair and energy reserves moving closer to now more utilized muscles (increased muscle glycogen stores) all are part of "growing muscles" even if the grams of muscle fibers in your body have not increased.
And your central nervous system also learns to recruit and use more muscle fibers and that makes you stronger and more effective.
So within long term appropriate time constraints and, most importantly, in an attempt to build up yourself as a swifter, higher, stronger version of yourself (and not as an expiation of past sins), then absolutely there is great benefit to increased strength training, movement and exercise and performing such means you will either be building or retaining muscle you otherwise wouldn't have! And this is good!9 -
hillbob1990 wrote: »Thank you. I am part of a weight loss group where most people are losing 2-3lbs a week and I wondered why mine was slower. So do you suggest I just keep doing what I am doing (exercising 4 days a week) maybe up my calories to 1200 a day and log my weight flunctuations? Do you anticipate that the weight loss will catch up with the fat loss at a later date?
I've been there and understand that. But, there are so many factors to consider...first how much do they currently weigh? Someone at a much higher weight is going to find the weight loss easier at first, but it will slow. Second, are they doing it in a sustainable healthy way? Sure, that weight loss sounds great at first, until suddenly you are tired all the time and your hair starts falling out.
And, in all likelihood, this will last a few months, they will decide it's too restrictive, quit, gain it back likely plus some, and next year, or in a couple years, be in the group again losing those same 2-3 lbs a week. Going slow and steady might not get you the attention and praise in the group now, but makes you more likely to not have to keep going back to it.6 -
You might be building muscle and it's more dense than adipose tissue. Add a couple hundred calories in mostly protein. Keep doing the workouts. Get good sleep at night. The scale will continue to go down and one day you'll notice you have lovely muscles underneath. When you started, at 5' height and a 47 inch waist, you likely lost initial inches from being less bloated. That happened with me, I lost over 2" off my waist the first week. You've lost 9 lbs. in 5 weeks, that's an average of 1.8 pounds per week and is an aggressive loss. Generally, the slower it comes off the less likely it is to come back and the less likely you'll have saggy skin. You are only at the beginning of this "journey", be patient, all the pieces will come together. Enjoy the workouts, eat more protein and trust the process.2
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LisaGetsMoving wrote: »You might be building muscle and it's more dense than adipose tissue. Add a couple hundred calories in mostly protein. Keep doing the workouts. Get good sleep at night. The scale will continue to go down and one day you'll notice you have lovely muscles underneath. When you started, at 5' height and a 47 inch waist, you likely lost initial inches from being less bloated. That happened with me, I lost over 2" off my waist the first week. You've lost 9 lbs. in 5 weeks, that's an average of 1.8 pounds per week and is an aggressive loss. Generally, the slower it comes off the less likely it is to come back and the less likely you'll have saggy skin. You are only at the beginning of this "journey", be patient, all the pieces will come together. Enjoy the workouts, eat more protein and trust the process.
Not to suggest that OP isn't potentially gaining muscle but it's highly unlikely she's gaining it at a rate that significantly masks fat loss. Per Lyle McDonald, best case/optimal scenario for a woman would be 1 lb in a month. Given that OP is overweight and consuming so little I certainly wouldn't consider that optimal for muscle gain. An increase in glycogen stored in muscles due to new exercise? Sure, that's absolutely a thing, but actually gaining muscle tissue at a rate that would have OP "caught up" with the others in her weight loss group (i.e. a 6 lb increase in lean mass) would take far more time to accomplish.6 -
MercuryForce wrote: »hillbob1990 wrote: »Thank you. I am part of a weight loss group where most people are losing 2-3lbs a week and I wondered why mine was slower. So do you suggest I just keep doing what I am doing (exercising 4 days a week) maybe up my calories to 1200 a day and log my weight flunctuations? Do you anticipate that the weight loss will catch up with the fat loss at a later date?
I've been there and understand that. But, there are so many factors to consider...first how much do they currently weigh? Someone at a much higher weight is going to find the weight loss easier at first, but it will slow. Second, are they doing it in a sustainable healthy way? Sure, that weight loss sounds great at first, until suddenly you are tired all the time and your hair starts falling out.
And, in all likelihood, this will last a few months, they will decide it's too restrictive, quit, gain it back likely plus some, and next year, or in a couple years, be in the group again losing those same 2-3 lbs a week. Going slow and steady might not get you the attention and praise in the group now, but makes you more likely to not have to keep going back to it.
This was what I came to say. As Ann said, comparison is the thief of joy. Though I hate to use this overused word..this "journey" is your own and has nothing to do with them, aside from the fact that they're doing it at the same time. Hopefully this isn't some race or competition. Your weight loss per week should be about 1% of your bodyweight, max. Take care of yourself and your own health. The weight will come off slower than you'd like, but the good news is that you're getting smaller and smaller as you go. You don't just stay at your starting weight forever until you reach the goal so..there is also that. Enjoy the process and really take time to learn from it, because losing weight is really the easier part. The more difficult part is keeping it off once you get there. Thats why it's better to go slowly and adjust and fine tune your process.2 -
Who cares?! Unless you have your weight stamped on your forehead, no one knows. And if you're fitting smaller clothing, looking the way you want and getting compliments from it, as long as you're within a good weight, it DOESN'T MATTER what the scale always shows.
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Seek positive reinforcement from trying on clothes that were too small for you. Take pictures. Celebrate. Keep a record of your shrinking measurements in the MFP progress tab. Stop competing with people whose bodies are not your body. Compete only with yourself when you started. Take the weightloss tempo from a sprint to a marathon. Never have your Net calories for the day below 1200. That means taking into account your workout calories as well. Slower is better. Trust me, you don't want to lose your hair or your periods. You're only 30, be kind to your body, it has to carry you for a while yet. Good luck on your journey!1
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Your actually not losing at and "incredibly slow" rate. Your average over the last 5 weeks equates to roughly 2 Lbs per week...even in your last 3 weeks, it's an average of about 1.5 Lbs per week. That isn't slow at all.7
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Also wanted to add to all the good advice you've been given, that if you've started exercising as well as changing your eating habits, you've probably started engaging your core (stomach muscles) more than you've done before, and this may make a difference to your waist measurement. I looked 6 months pregnant back in August due to bloating and fatigue-induced lack of exercise. I changed my diet (cut out refined sugar, ate more heathily in general, also cut out most dairy as it doesn't tend to agree with me) and started to exercise, including a load of core-strengthening stuff and, well, I no longer look 6 months pregnant. Still a bit of bloating (generally hormonal) but for the first time my core is engaged even when I'm not thinking about it. It's not muscle gain, not for ages yet, just more/better muscle usage. I don't know if that makes sense, and it's purely my experience so may not be the case for you, but it might shed some light in addition to all the above.2
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9 pounds in 5 weeks is great! I'd be more than happy with those results.1
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The weight loss pattern you wrote out looks just right to me. Especially considering you are a female with fluctuations related to menstruation. Just because you lost half a pound in your most recent week doesn’t mean you won’t have other weeks with 1-1.5 lb loss.0
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