Feeling (Somewhat) Validated
jencnipps
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I know there are so many excuses for gaining weight. I thought one of mine was "so many of my medications have weight gain as a side effect." Since none of my doctors ever addressed it, I thought it was just me excuse-hunting or blame shifting.
Then, today I saw a counselor and we were talking about so many things that have been going on in my life the past few years. (Intake stuff.) And she could pull up my records and see what my prescriptions are since she's part of their system. She said she could see when and where I really started gaining weight when they started changing my medications.
Yes, my blood sugar is finally under excellent control, but I've gained about 100 pounds in the past three years or so.
So, yeah, I feel somewhat validated, but I also feel angry that this is something that is known to happen and they pretty much did nothing to address it except to suggest a gastric sleeve when I asked about help losing weight.
I'm just.... Yeah. Annoyed. Aggravated. Frustrated. Angry. Upset. All of the above.
Then, today I saw a counselor and we were talking about so many things that have been going on in my life the past few years. (Intake stuff.) And she could pull up my records and see what my prescriptions are since she's part of their system. She said she could see when and where I really started gaining weight when they started changing my medications.
Yes, my blood sugar is finally under excellent control, but I've gained about 100 pounds in the past three years or so.
So, yeah, I feel somewhat validated, but I also feel angry that this is something that is known to happen and they pretty much did nothing to address it except to suggest a gastric sleeve when I asked about help losing weight.
I'm just.... Yeah. Annoyed. Aggravated. Frustrated. Angry. Upset. All of the above.
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cico9
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What kind of medication are we talking about? Most medication doesn't lead to weight gain because the body decides to starve you and store the food as fat instead. Some medication can lead to weight gain because you move less, fidget less, water weight gain, or get more hungry. When side effect information mentions weight gain it doesn't give a reason, but it usually one of those above.13
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weight gain from medications is real and it is frustrating. Yeah, @foreverslim1111 if I were the OP, I would not find your reply supportive or helpful. In fact, I would take it as a slap. The weight gain may be caused by cico but try keeping your calories low on a medication that makes you hungry, or slows you metabolism to a slow crawl so you natural burn drops. My daughter refuses to take her Lupus meds because they cause weight gain. MFP doesn't account for medications. It IS possible for a person to be trying really hard and gain weight.
Hunger is an extremely uncomfortable sensation that humans work to correct. It is a survival instinct. If we didn't do that, we wouldn't be here. We aren't supposed to spend our days hungry. It sucks when a medication makes your body ask for food it doesn't need. Likewise, a medication that slows the metabolism thereby causing you to gain even if you are staying within your targets is a bummer.
I wonder if your GP can suggest a nutritionist who can help you. I also saw that WW is having a 50% off sale. They tend to be supportive and helpful there.
In any case, I hope you get it sorted out.15 -
In the past my GP would just keep adding medications based on my one-sentence complaints and a 15 minute interview/appointment.
She went to Harvard and so (stupidly) I trusted her.
I struggled with weight gain too.
I got off all my meds (against medical advice, jus' sayin') and I've been at a healthy weight ever since.
Coincidence? I think not.
I'm now very wary of any doctor who prescribes a pill.
They're just doing what they've been taught as MEDICAL doctors. Prescribing meds.
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cmriverside wrote: »In the past my GP would just keep adding medications based on my one-sentence complaints and a 15 minute interview/appointment.
She went to Harvard and so (stupidly) I trusted her.
I struggled with weight gain too.
I got off all my meds (against medical advice, jus' sayin') and I've been at a healthy weight ever since.
Coincidence? I think not.
I'm now very wary of any doctor who prescribes a pill.
They're just doing what they've been taught as MEDICAL doctors. Prescribing meds.
Quoted for truth.1 -
neanderthin wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »In the past my GP would just keep adding medications based on my one-sentence complaints and a 15 minute interview/appointment.
She went to Harvard and so (stupidly) I trusted her.
I struggled with weight gain too.
I got off all my meds (against medical advice, jus' sayin') and I've been at a healthy weight ever since.
Coincidence? I think not.
I'm now very wary of any doctor who prescribes a pill.
They're just doing what they've been taught as MEDICAL doctors. Prescribing meds.
Quoted for truth.
Yep, they're quick to prescribe and know not half the symptoms meds. can cause.
OP, good luck with getting off the meds., maybe a different one would work better? Also, might be time for a different doctor?? My dd suffers from anxiety(almost to the point of agoraphobia) and depression and her 'old' dr. simply kept throwing scripts upon scripts at her. Nothing'll mess up a body worse than treatment like that. And medications can affect everyone differently. Thankfully, she found someone new that she likes and is trying to wean her off the stew of meds.
Take care and good luck!!6 -
foreverslim1111 wrote: »cico
Sometimes there are ways of understanding things that are factually correct, but not helpful. It's a confusing lesson to learn.3 -
neanderthin wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »In the past my GP would just keep adding medications based on my one-sentence complaints and a 15 minute interview/appointment.
She went to Harvard and so (stupidly) I trusted her.
I struggled with weight gain too.
I got off all my meds (against medical advice, jus' sayin') and I've been at a healthy weight ever since.
Coincidence? I think not.
I'm now very wary of any doctor who prescribes a pill.
They're just doing what they've been taught as MEDICAL doctors. Prescribing meds.
Quoted for truth.
Yep, they're quick to prescribe and know not half the symptoms meds. can cause.
OP, good luck with getting off the meds., maybe a different one would work better? Also, might be time for a different doctor?? My dd suffers from anxiety(almost to the point of agoraphobia) and depression and her 'old' dr. simply kept throwing scripts upon scripts at her. Nothing'll mess up a body worse than treatment like that. And medications can affect everyone differently. Thankfully, she found someone new that she likes and is trying to wean her off the stew of meds.
Take care and good luck!!
What is more baffling is that one doctor won't even contradict another. I think it must be about liability. Probably why they are also adverse to removing pills from a patient - can't admit we were wrong, now can we? Could be a lawsuit. At least that's how my cynicism manifested.
At one point I was on 8 different medications, many of which were listed as drug-interaction risks and all of which had side effects that were negative.
One day I looked at the lineup of bottles and said, "Ya know what? No more." That day I stopped one of them. A couple months later I stopped another, and so on. I didn't even tell the doctor because why? She's the one who caused this mess in the first place. Now I just deal with life on life's terms. Am I always Suzy Sunshine? No. Do I feel 100% better? You bet.8 -
@cmriverside
You should look into direct primary care. I don't know if you'd like it or not, it probably depends more on the doctor than the financial model. That said, office visits with my doctor are 90 minutes.0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »@cmriverside
You should look into direct primary care. I don't know if you'd like it or not, it probably depends more on the doctor than the financial model. That said, office visits with my doctor are 90 minutes.
Thanks, I don't see that doctor any more. I also found my backbone.4 -
We live in the day and age of the internet. My 69 year-old father has never taken a medication in his life. But if he ever was prescribed one, or I was, or my children were, I'd look up possible side effects first before I'd just agree to take anything. I'm funny that way.7
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Just wanted to give you hugs, support, and understanding. I've lost 40 pounds since I made adjustments in my meds and my eating. I was counting calories and weighing my food on my meds and NOTHING was happening. My weight still slowly creeped up. I know everyone here says it is impossible or that I must have been counting wrong. Yadda yadda. Nope. I changed three things: I changed my meds and added more whole foods to my lunch, and started fasting breakfast. I eat the same amount of calories every day that I did before the change in meds. I eat a lot of the same dinners (just finished pizza Friday, WOOP!). Those meds REALLY messed me up. I still have to watch what I eat very closely. Like... I can't even miss logging one bite ever. I tend to gain very very easily still. Maintenance is gonna be difficult when I am get there. Anyways. Just wanted to spend l give you more affirmation and validate you. Hugs.7
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Iwannabeapunkrockmom wrote: »Just wanted to give you hugs, support, and understanding. I've lost 40 pounds since I made adjustments in my meds and my eating. I was counting calories and weighing my food on my meds and NOTHING was happening. My weight still slowly creeped up. I know everyone here says it is impossible or that I must have been counting wrong. Yadda yadda. Nope. I changed three things: I changed my meds and added more whole foods to my lunch, and started fasting breakfast. I eat the same amount of calories every day that I did before the change in meds. I eat a lot of the same dinners (just finished pizza Friday, WOOP!). Those meds REALLY messed me up. I still have to watch what I eat very closely. Like... I can't even miss logging one bite ever. I tend to gain very very easily still. Maintenance is gonna be difficult when I am get there. Anyways. Just wanted to spend l give you more affirmation and validate you. Hugs.
Hugs and support to you too. Usually, whatever the medication is battling is worse than carrying too much weight but our doctors really need to understand that being overweight is a big deal to many of us, especially women.
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I am living proof that meds cause weight gain. I gained 150lbs after being on meds for deppression and anxiety. My new doctor has a good plan in place for getting me off the meds.4
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cmriverside wrote: »
What is more baffling is that one doctor won't even contradict another. I think it must be about liability. Probably why they are also adverse to removing pills from a patient - can't admit we were wrong, now can we? Could be a lawsuit. At least that's how my cynicism manifested.
I experienced weight gain and depression from a medication that I went on at my doctor's insistence even though I thought it was unnecessary at the time. I decided I'd had enough and was ready to stop using it. The doctor argued with me that "it wasn't possible" I was experiencing those side effects even though both were listed right there in the product information. But then she said she'd prescribe me an antidepressant on top of the other drug if I "really thought I was depressed." What???
I quit the pills and the doctor. My mental health improved a lot over a few months though I didn't lose the weight right then (though I am losing it now!) And I got a lot better at speaking up for myself. Before this happened I never questioned doctors at all and I thought people who did were rude and arrogant and probably conspiracy theorist nutjobs on top of that. There are some of those, but I try my best to be diplomatic and kind when I have objections or concerns and the good ones respond well to that and admit their blind spots.
Hugs for the OP. I think "explanations" and "excuses" are different things. You can see what happened in the past, and now you get to choose what happens from here on out with the knowledge you now have.5 -
That is so frustrating!! I had medication complications after a concussion. My depression had gotten worse so my PCP had me take an “add-on” drug. Then I ended up getting tremors in my so bad that it was hard to type. I went back to the clinic and someone on the “care team” and me see a neurologist. This guy essentially looked at my hands and my eyes and told me it was from the meds, not my concussion. He had me stop the one cold turkey and weaned me back on the original. For me, it was Serotonin Syndrome. I did gain about 60 pounds after my concussion, mainly due to my brain no longer controlling impulses. I mean, yes, for ME it was way more calories in and way less burned. If I thought about a food, I went and got it. If I didn’t want to exercise, I didn’t. I used to exercise a total of an hour a day pre-concussion and then.. nothing.
@jencnipps Is there a plan for you to cut back on meds? Or switch them for something else?1 -
Good job getting blood sugar under control, OP. That's huge.
A MD family member often tells me bodies systems are complex and rarely is there a single cause for something. The more medications, the more complex the possible causes and effects. I understand the desire to quit all medications as some commenters (not the OP) have expressed. But medications can be life saving, too, so each merits careful weighing. I see posters from time to time concerned about weight gain from an injury of illness (also not OP), and I'm so much more concerned for their long term healing than their short term water retention.
OP, I hear you that 100lb is a lot to gain in 3 years. If you gave yourself 3 years to get back down to your prior weight, that works out to a pretty modest daily deficit. I do not disagree that some health conditions can make a small deficit tough to sustain. And I appreciate that finding the right med or combination of meds can take more patience even than weight loss with a small deficit. Just wanted to validate your experience and encourage a long term view towards improving your health. You are off to a really good start. Hang in there.4 -
I just watched this happen with my mom. My mom is a natural skinny twig lady. She can eat ENDLESSLEY and seems to never gain weight. She's 5'8" and the MOST she's ever weighed was when she was 9 mos pregnant with me and was 145 lbs.
She recently had to undergo spinal surgery for a benign tumor removal and they put her on steroids . Steroids can increase your apetite and sure enough, she was hungry all the time . Keep in mind that she's usually a big eater with no consequences, but she was trying to be careful and regulate . Still, in a matter of like 1.5 months she had gained an easy 20 lbs. If this was a long term situation, it would have likely continued.
Yes CICO is the science behind things but the measures you use to impact that and how successful they are are influenced by many health factors.4 -
My brother is seriously mentally ill, and when his anti-psychotics stop working, they really stop working. His medical team does pay attention to his reporting of side effects.
It makes me mad when doctors don't take patient's reporting of side effects from anti depressants seriously. There are so many anti depressants out there. I think I tried six different ones before I found Wellbutrin, which has an association with weight loss, rather than weight gain.
My brother's mood stabilizers and antipsychotics are known to cause an increase in appetite. When he was in a hospital setting, he gained weight while eating hospital food and not getting much exercise. Now that he is home, eating Mom's cooking, helping her with extensive yard work, and walking several miles per day, he lost all the weight he gained in the hospital and has maintained a healthy weight for going on 7 years.
He doesn't count calories. He does eat lots of whole foods - fruits, veggies, legumes, whole grains, chicken, fish, etc. There's very little junk food in the house. Mom's natural way of eating is basically the Mediterranean diet.2 -
I just watched this happen with my mom. My mom is a natural skinny twig lady. She can eat ENDLESSLEY and seems to never gain weight. She's 5'8" and the MOST she's ever weighed was when she was 9 mos pregnant with me and was 145 lbs.
She recently had to undergo spinal surgery for a benign tumor removal and they put her on steroids . Steroids can increase your apetite and sure enough, she was hungry all the time . Keep in mind that she's usually a big eater with no consequences, but she was trying to be careful and regulate . Still, in a matter of like 1.5 months she had gained an easy 20 lbs. If this was a long term situation, it would have likely continued.
Yes CICO is the science behind things but the measures you use to impact that and how successful they are are influenced by many health factors.
This is a bit of a false equivalent as well.
She had spinal surgery. So I'm guessing she went from being someone who was fairly active, even if its just generally walking around etc, to someone who is recovering from spinal surgery, so not doing as much.
Of course she gained weight if she didn't alter her eating habits.
Yes medication can increase appetite etc - I've experienced that myself, and stopped taking the meds for that and other side effects. But I didn't gain weight on them because I recognised that I had an increase in appetite, not an actual increase in need to eat, so I kept my calories at the same level. And never gained weight.
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Yes medication can increase appetite etc - I've experienced that myself, and stopped taking the meds for that and other side effects. But I didn't gain weight on them because I recognised that I had an increase in appetite, not an actual increase in need to eat, so I kept my calories at the same level. And never gained weight.
The thing is, if you are HUNGRY, that is really really hard. Good for you the tough it out but I, personally, would have a really hard time with that.
There ARE medications that slow metabolism. Beta blockers do that. There is no way to know precisely how much. If you are using MFP, you CAN be showing more calories out than in but gain weight because MFP (or any calorie tracking app) can't account for the impact of the medication. You could be enjoying a really healthy balanced diet and gain weight because the calories consumed do exceed the calories burned because of the medication. Consuming even less isn't such a simple solution if that leaves you hungry.0 -
I just watched this happen with my mom. My mom is a natural skinny twig lady. She can eat ENDLESSLEY and seems to never gain weight. She's 5'8" and the MOST she's ever weighed was when she was 9 mos pregnant with me and was 145 lbs.
She recently had to undergo spinal surgery for a benign tumor removal and they put her on steroids . Steroids can increase your apetite and sure enough, she was hungry all the time . Keep in mind that she's usually a big eater with no consequences, but she was trying to be careful and regulate . Still, in a matter of like 1.5 months she had gained an easy 20 lbs. If this was a long term situation, it would have likely continued.
Yes CICO is the science behind things but the measures you use to impact that and how successful they are are influenced by many health factors.This is a bit of a false equivalent as well.
She had spinal surgery. So I'm guessing she went from being someone who was fairly active, even if its just generally walking around etc, to someone who is recovering from spinal surgery, so not doing as much.
Of course she gained weight if she didn't alter her eating habits.
Yes medication can increase appetite etc - I've experienced that myself, and stopped taking the meds for that and other side effects. But I didn't gain weight on them because I recognised that I had an increase in appetite, not an actual increase in need to eat, so I kept my calories at the same level. And never gained weight.
Yes, my mom is a twig but she is super active. She would gain weight post surgery if she ate the same yet moved less.1
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