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Upbringing and weight

lucytalbot94
lucytalbot94 Posts: 32 Member
I think I already know that a lot of people will agree; your upbringing effects your weight as an adult.

For me, my daddy fell very ill when I was only young and due to that we didn't do much that involved being physically active. Before he was poorly we would go swimming, walking, playing in the park etc. However, after his operation we spent a lot of time doing activities at home (drawing, painting rocks, racing snails, writing stories together etc).

It was a real shock when I started attending the gym everyday; I was so unfit and weak! My dad encouraged me to start attending when I was 18, and I've worked out every since! Whenever I take a break, I gain weight almost instantly, so I'm grateful that he keeps me on track nearly a decade later!!
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  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,826 Member
    edited July 2021
    Notable elements of my upbringing:
    - aside from a bit of tennis and squash when I was really young and Sunday walks, my parents really weren't into exercise at all. My mom still systematically calls my home gym my 'torture room', to illustrate her mindset :unamused: As a kid I'd ride around my neighborbood on my bike and I played some tennis in high school. Nearly the only exercise I did was in school though and PE classes gave me an aversion more than anything: gymnastics which I was scared of, swimming which I hated, a PE teacher who insulted me after a dismal shuttle run test (as if it was lack of willpower on my part instead of lack of fitness) etc.
    - both parents gained weight as I grew older, from a healthy weight to overweight to obese
    - my mom was always 'trying' to lose weight, but never did and finally gave up entirely. Never ceased to say weight loss was impossible and hopeless etc. And her favorite mantra (which I cannot stand) is "a moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips"

    So basically: no good examples around me regarding a healthy weight and being active/doing sports, topped off with 'brainwashing' regarding the hopelessness of weight loss. It 'only' took me till I was 37 to break free of all of that and find enjoyment in exercise/being active and realise weight loss was indeed possible (and not even that hard).

    (PS: on the plus side, we did always have home-cooked meals with lots of vegetables at home, so it could have been way worse regarding my food habits!)
  • wunderkindking
    wunderkindking Posts: 1,615 Member
    edited July 2021
    I was a perfectly normal weight my entire childhood, as were my parents. My father had a physically demanding/physical labor type job most of the time, and my mom was a nurse (also physically demanding). I wasn't into sports or anything, but I did bike and walk everywhere, and when I got a job it was as a waitress. There were snacks in the house (most of them unhealthy) and cooking/feeding people was a love language, but we were active and it didn't really matter.


    I didn't really gain weight until I was a young adult and married. My activity dropped a lot with a desk job, and my income increased. Also pregnancy. All about the same time period/within a couple of years. And my eating habits were formed around high activity levels.

    Truthfully the psychological thing that bit me in the butt were periods of being broke and that 'treat' food (and I mean fast food, chips, candy, whatever) that were standard in my cupboards as a kid became a rare, limited opportunity, thing that signaled being okay financially. And 'rice/potatoes/pasta' to make more expensive ingredients stretch further. THOSE took a while, but it wasn't a childhood thing. It was a 'broke young adult' thing.
  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,522 Member
    Yep. My father was pretty traumatized by going to boys schools and being relatively unathletic himself. I think he felt like he was protecting us from some of the teasing that goes along with sports. Youth athletic experiences can be very negative, depending on the oversite. But, when you don't start team sports early, you join in rather behind the curve, and it's really discouraging.
  • Cassandraw3
    Cassandraw3 Posts: 1,214 Member
    I agree that upbringing definitely plays a big part in weight and eating habits. Being overweight definitely runs in my family and a large part of that is due to the eating habits that have been ingrained into us. Basically, it is eat whatever you want. As someone with a sweet tooth, those calories add up fast. My mom's definition of healthy foods tend to not be low calorie. She also plans everything around food. Every family get together, that is the main thing she talks about when planning the event. My mother is ok living in denial about what it takes to actually lose weight and keep it off (she always wants to lose weight, but doesn't want to listen to me when I tell her what it would take), but I am not. I hope to be able to teach my kids to have a much healthier relationship with food than I have.
  • Speakeasy76
    Speakeasy76 Posts: 961 Member
    I was always a bit bigger than my friends and definitely felt that way, but was active outdoors a lot until my pre-teens, maybe? My mom was a stay-at-home mom of 4 kids, and cooked every night of the week. Going out to eat was a rare occasion, a treat. We did definitely have a lot of snack at home, but we also ate a fresh salad with lots of fresh veggies at every meal. I was allowed to drink soda once a day, and got a candy bar once per week. However, I definitely remember eating Little Debbie's after school. I was the only one one in my family (3 brothers) who ever seemed to be "chubby," though. My 2 brothers were "skinny," and one was probably underweight. My mom didn't seem to be like most moms in that she never seemed to be on a diet or unhappy with herself....if she was, she never said it out loud. Overall, though, I think for my mom growing up in the south and us living in Indiana, our diet was probably healthier than most in the area. There were definitely comments from my parents about my weight, but they were few and far between and I know were coming out of a place of trying to help. My mom actually said something along the lines of the dreaded "You'd be so pretty if you lost some weight".

    I went on an extreme diet at age 14 and lost a lot of weight (putting it back on and then some), but it set up the path of disordered eating and thinking about food and years of restrict/binge cycles for years and years. It took a lot of my own self-awareness and changes in mindset to be able to lose in a healthy way and keep it off.

    I have 2 kids now, ages 10 and 12 (in a few weeks). They are both on the bigger side, chubby (and it is more noticeable in my daughter). I wonder if them seeing me exercise frequently, track my food, etc., will seem obsessive to them when they are older, or healthy habits. I tell my kids that I was chubby and didn't feel good about myself, and that's why I'm passionate now about making healthier choices and exercising. They also know I have a lot of digestive issues and muscle/joint issues that can be exacerbated by what I'm eating. I have really tried to instill in them making food/movement choices that make us FEEL better, not to lose weight. It's funny, we talk about added sugar and I don't buy regular soda or juice, and they don't even drink diet soda all that much. They bought some drinks at Six Flags the other day, and they were SHOCKED at how much sugar was in the drinks. My nearly 12-year old son said he didn't want to drink it all at once, and didn't want to have any other sugary treats the rest of the day...which he forgot, because he then ate an ice cream cone at his friend's house :)
  • corinasue1143
    corinasue1143 Posts: 7,464 Member

    For me, my daddy fell very ill when I was only young and due to that we didn't do much that involved being physically active. Before he was poorly we would go swimming, walking, playing in the park etc. However, after his operation we spent a lot of time doing activities at home (drawing, painting rocks, racing snails, writing stories together etc).

    This really hit home. My dad got sick when I was a teenager. Same general scenario.
    I asked my Dr. what I could do to make sure that didn’t happen to me in a few years. He laughed, said I was a little young to start worrying and very healthy. Then he said to eat apples instead of french fries and bananas instead of chips and keep playing hard after school. It really had an effect on me. I still don’t eat fries, most deep fried foods, or chips often.
    However, he didn’t tell me about the fat in milk, cream, ice cream, butter, etc. Now, that’s my biggest healthy eating battle.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Mixed bag. My mom was never particularly active until much later in life. When I was a child my dad played tennis regularly on the weekends and we had friends with a boat and lake house so we would often spend Sundays up at the lake water skiing. That said, the higher up the corporate ladder my dad climbed, the busier he got and started putting on weight in his mid to late 30s.

    I think the bigger thing for myself and my sister is that our parents realized early on that we were both naturally athletic so they started us out in youth sports pretty early. I started running club track in 3rd grade with Hershey's Track and Field. I ran track in the spring, swim lessons and then swim team in the summers, football in the fall, and gymnastics in the winter for most of my early life. I dropped gymnastics after 7th grade when I hit a growth spurt and couldn't tumble all that well anymore. In high school I played one season of football in 9th grade but was starting to specialize much more with track and field. I ran track all through high school in the spring and continued with club swim team in the summers. Fall and winter became kinda my off season though I would start working on track stuff in the winter to prepare for spring.

    I remained pretty active into my adulthood joining the military and then in college I did warehouse work and landscape construction and didn't own a car for most of that time and walked and biked everywhere. My friends and I were really into Ultimate Frisbee and did lots of hiking and backpacking. I graduated when I was 30 and took a desk job working 12+ hours per day and traveling about 25 weeks out of the year for business. I became much less active and put on about 40 Lbs from 30-38 years old when I decided I needed to turn things around. I enjoy road cycling, mountain biking, family walks and walking my dog most mornings, hiking when I can, playing around with my kids in the pool, and archery...which isn't much of a workout, but it's dang fun and still active.

    My kids are both active. Both play soccer but my oldest is moving from club to play for his school. My youngest (9) has a fall and spring season. My oldest (11) will have a fall season of soccer at school and wants to try track and field in the spring. My oldest has also been doing archery for about 3 years which is what got me into it.
  • lucytalbot94
    lucytalbot94 Posts: 32 Member
    Thank you all so much for your insight!

    I think the take away from this is that our upbringing definitely effects our mindset; whether positive or negative; and due to that it can effect our relationship with food/exercise!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    My childhood involved very little activity :( and using food as a reward. Not a good combo at all. Plus I seem to have inherited a gigantic sweet tooth. In our house, there was *always* dessert to follow the meal, IF we ate everything on our plates. And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia. I remember any kind of Drakes snack foods and Kool-Aid always being available in the house. So, yeh, it was a rough start but have learned a bit along that way. Better late than never, right? :)

    Oh, oh god this 'clean your plate/starving kids' thing. This one is absolutely a thing that went on - and I think it's largely generational because I know my mom grew up with it from my grandparents and it's likely directly related to not dying in the Depression but being able to throw food away/not eat everything given to me and clear my plate was a THING.

    I have MEMORIES of you're not leaving the table until you've eaten it all stuff, and just.

    That one probably helped absolutely no one and created a lot of weird food issues for a lot of people in one form or another.

    I grew up with this, but the portions were appropriate. It became a problem when I started eating in American restaurants where the portions are just way too big. These days I'm pretty good about planning to just eat half. (Of course, I haven't been to a restaurant in ages and prior to the pandemic we had slowed down on eating out after redoing our backyard in 2016.)

    Now that I have been logging food for so long, when I serve myself something familiar I'm pretty good at not putting a gram more on my plate than I want. With new recipes, it behooves me to get the calories before I start eating :lol:

    But other than "The Clean Plate Club," Mom modeled very good eating and exercise habits, which unfortunately did not stick when I left home.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    My childhood involved very little activity :( and using food as a reward. Not a good combo at all. Plus I seem to have inherited a gigantic sweet tooth. In our house, there was *always* dessert to follow the meal, IF we ate everything on our plates. And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia. I remember any kind of Drakes snack foods and Kool-Aid always being available in the house. So, yeh, it was a rough start but have learned a bit along that way. Better late than never, right? :)

    Oh, oh god this 'clean your plate/starving kids' thing. This one is absolutely a thing that went on - and I think it's largely generational because I know my mom grew up with it from my grandparents and it's likely directly related to not dying in the Depression but being able to throw food away/not eat everything given to me and clear my plate was a THING.

    I have MEMORIES of you're not leaving the table until you've eaten it all stuff, and just.

    That one probably helped absolutelye no one and created a lot of weird food issues for a lot of people in one form or another.

    I grew up with that as well, but my parents never put massive amounts of food on my plate. For the most part, "clean your plate" was largely attributable to me not wanting to eat my peas or something...it was almost always the veg.

    My mom was also very sugar conscious, so we didn't really have sweets and such in the house. No fun cereals...usually just cheerios or oatmeal and candy was nonexistent in the house. My sister and I were allowed one glass of orange juice, apple juice, or grape juice per day...usually breakfast. After that it was water or milk. Desert was typically served on Saturday evenings only.

    I did develop an affinity for soda...I was 10 years old and had a walking paper route and part of my route was a retirement home that had an old fashioned soda machine with glass bottles. I had my own money with having the paper route, so I'd pretty regularly buy myself one and drink it on my walk home at the end of my route and toss it before I got home so my parents would be none the wiser...shhhh, don't tell.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    Upbringing played a very large role in the way I eat and move. I was one of those "smart" kids always in the top 3 in class. I liked books and anything that had to do with learning, I was a very curious child. I also liked art and doing things with my hands. Naturally, my parents chose gifts and activities that aligned with my interests because they wanted me to be happy. This meant most of my gifts were books or something that had to do with learning/crafting/painting. All sedentary activities. They tried introducing me to sports a few times but I showed no interest at all, so they stopped trying and my gifts and activities continued to be mostly sedentary. My sister, on the other hand, showed great interest in sports so that's what they supported her to do. Thankfully, they didn't have to juggle activities for 2 very different kids because there is a large age gap between us.

    As for food, we grew up with idea that "food is love". Mom cooked our favorite dishes when we were feeling down or when they wanted us to feel special, my grandmother always loved us with food, and showing hospitality has always been (and still is) about food. Many of my pleasant childhood memories involve food and eating in some way. I grew up loving food and enjoying it guilt free. I didn't even consider dieting until I was in my 30s despite being morbidly obese (for comparison, I'm now lighter than I was in high school!). My sister is very active and juggles several kinds of sports, but she's slightly overweight because she too grew up in this environment where good food is always available, allowed, and encouraged.

  • TwistedSassette
    TwistedSassette Posts: 8,825 Member
    I grew up on a farm, doing school by Distance Education (not homeschooling as such, we had teachers & a curriculum but lessons were delivered by our parents and/or via radio - nowadays via video online but my time was before that). So school was a bit less traditional, in the sense that we didn't have PE classes with other kids etc. and a lot of our PE was more theory-based. Now, you'd think growing up on a farm would mean lots of outdoor time and lots of activity - and you'd be right, we were outside more often than not as kids. We'd play our own version of sports adapted for two or three kids to play, or ride motorbikes, we had pushbikes to ride as well, and horses, and just generally outdoor play.
    And yet, the three of us were (are) obese.
    I hadn't really thought about why that is, but looking back I remember the size of the meals we were served, and I remember unhealthy snacks being always available and eaten every day. We were definitely pushed into finishing everything on our plates (there's a photo somewhere of me asleep at the table with my head on the plate and my arm in the gravy). But I really, honestly think that it's the size of the meals that was the issue, and eating three square meals a day plus two snacks and dessert.
    My parents didn't really model healthy eating or activity. Dad was always busy on the farm and I realise now just how many calories he must burn on a daily basis. But Mum stayed home with us, taught us school, did the bookwork and the housework and didn't have (make?) time for exercise. As a teen, she was thin, and so was Dad, so it's not genetics at play, it's all environmental.
    I don't blame my parents for my size, not at all. I knew from a young age that I was fat, and I was bullied for that at school get-togethers. My sister and I tried a few times to lose weight as teens, we used to do aerobics in front of the tv, make up dances to songs, play tennis etc. But we weren't really equipped with the knowledge that we needed about what and how much to eat.

    Now, I do have that knowledge and I'm working to fix the damage to my body. Now, I'm a Mum myself and I want my son to have a healthy relationship with food, and activity, and his body. He's two, so he doesn't like to eat many vegetables but we always serve him some and sometimes he eats them. We don't force him to eat any more than he wants to - within reason, of course. We offer a couple more times after he says he's done, and then leave it at that. His dessert is typically greek yoghurt with fruit, so even if that's most of what he's eaten it's not terrible. We try to get him outside every day to play, I take him for walks with me, we kick a ball around or he rides his bike. And we celebrate what his body can do, how he's growing up big & strong.

    This was a very long-winded way to say that yes, I believe that my upbringing contributed to my weight as an adult - though ultimately the blame is on me, not my parents. Armed with this knowledge, I am aiming to make sure my kid/s is given an upbringing that equips him for a long & healthy life!
  • 33gail33
    33gail33 Posts: 1,155 Member
    I was a very unathletic kid, was fed a lot of "junk" food, but was super skinny. I have always been active as an adult, and gained weight later in life. So I guess I don't fit the mold.
    I had a lot of trauma in my childhood, and was raised by a narcissist, so if you count the fallout from that surfacing later in life, then maybe I can blame it on my upbringing. :wink:
    For my own kids I was always active and modeled healthy activity for them, we took active vacations at the cottage, and they always did sports (hockey, soccer, swim team) and are all far more athletic than I ever was. Hopefully that gives them a good base as they get older. I think it probably helps but is only one piece of the puzzle.
  • HoneyBadger302
    HoneyBadger302 Posts: 2,069 Member
    edited July 2021
    Pretty sure my family broke all the molds.

    Mom was and still is overweight - sometimes obese - and has never been (what I would call) fit so long as I can remember.

    Father was and still is thin/trim, always had a physical hobby (running and then bicycling as his knees gave out).

    Food was always a special thing in our house, and still is when we visit mom (they're divorced). Food is her way of showing she loves you, it's how she tries to make people and groups feel special and like she cares. Not sure how or why food was always a thing, but it was.

    I grew up on a large hobby farm, tomboy, so always outside, doing chores, playing with the animals, riding the horses, climbing trees, dog sledding in the winter with my huskies - you get the idea. I was the oldest, and the only one that never was "overweight" as a child.

    My brother and sister, who also had chores and stuff, have spent most of their lives a little chunkier - not obese, but they wouldn't be accused of being "skinny" either. I was thin until my mid-30's when I finally got a desk job LOL.

    Even at my absolute heaviest, I had about 30 pounds to lose. Right now that's more like 15-20, and my version of "overweight" has been that 15-20 pound range. Pretty sure my sister's lowest weight ever (when she was in her undergrad and heavily involved in the bicycling and cross country teams in her small college) she probably still had a good 20 pounds she could have stood to lose. She was, however, the "girlier" girl, and clearly spends a lot more time primping than I think I ever have LOL.

    Brother, like my sister, has never been thin/trim. Neither of them have gone into obese territory, but neither has ever been "thin."

    I *feel* like activity levels between my sister and I are similar, but despite being 11 years older than her, I often still feel like the more fit one, and am still the more trim one.

    The only thing I can really say is that I am also the one that took more after our father in terms of overall build and looks - my siblings both took more after mom. I do think I am prone to more easily gaining, and carrying, more muscle than my sister - not that she is weak, but just in our shoulders alone, mine are clearly more "muscled" than hers.

    The food thing has been an issue - I still have problems throwing food out or not finishing a meal when eating out. Plus, for 30+ years, I could just about eat whatever I wanted (during a couple periods of intense activity, it was all I could do to consume enough food) - so when I've had multiple points in my life when I had to pack away 3-5K calories a day just to maintain my weight, and now need to eat more like 1600-ish to lose anything, my stomach hormones are in complete rebellion LOL.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    florafaun wrote: »
    very early childhood i am told we didn't have much food. we lived in poverty and my parents weren't around much. sometimes my older brother would make us ketchup sandwiches.

    my dad remarried and my step mom cooked throughout my childhood but was very strict on portions. i remember one time i got seconds at dinner and my mother was so mad and cried bc that meant my dad couldn't eat. our church would sometimes donate food to us around the holidays. there was a lot of body shaming in my family. ive never been overweight but my stepmother would tell me i was fat and should eat less.

    currently i struggle with portion control/binging behavior and disordered eating. i eat too fast and im not picky at all very few things i won't eat. i will literally pull food back out of the trash and eat it im a mess.
    still struggle with body image issues bc of my upbringing.

    :( That sounds pretty rough and I can imagine could create a whole host of issues. I hope you can come to more peaceful terms with foods.
    Why does food create such complications for some of us? And it's so different for all of us.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,437 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia.

    Interesting that your starving children were in Ethiopia. Mine were in China.

    I guess it was a generational thing.
  • glassyo
    glassyo Posts: 7,739 Member
    I don't think we had any starving kids to be threatened with because nobody was not eating in our house. 😀
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia.

    Interesting that your starving children were in Ethiopia. Mine were in China.

    I guess it was a generational thing.

    Yeah, I bet we could map age by that. We got Ethiopia too, or more generically Africa.

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123124017
  • ccrdragon
    ccrdragon Posts: 3,374 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia.

    Interesting that your starving children were in Ethiopia. Mine were in China.

    I guess it was a generational thing.

    Yeah, I bet we could map age by that. We got Ethiopia too, or more generically Africa.

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123124017

    I think we got Africa as well... and don't ever offer to let the poor starving kids have your plate of food... :wink:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    I'll say yes and no. You learn a lot of behavioral habits as a kid and some of them you keep. For me it has been keeping things organized. I did that as a kid and still do it today (OCD issue) especially at the gym.
    But then you learn things behaviorally as an adult too. It's NOT uncommon to see so many people who may have been active all their teens and early 20's, to become couch potatoes once they get out of college and join the REAL WORLD. I've seen lots of instances where parents were normal in weight and their kids who are grown adults now all overweight and obese in some cases.

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  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,371 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia.

    Interesting that your starving children were in Ethiopia. Mine were in China.

    I guess it was a generational thing.

    No starving children for me. I grew up with Scottish parents and it was waste of food that was the real horror.

    My petite ladylike mother ate like a bird. My tall lanky father and I would finish her meal. No food was allowed to go to waste. I still feel that need to clean my plate, and I've been known to finish other people's meals.

    Other than that, the influence was more about dietary choices, and it wasn't bad at all. I was taught that vegetables could form an entire meal, meat was not necessary. My dad had hypertension from a young age so we ate low sodium and never added salt. I find most prepared food tastes overly salty to me because I'm used to food without it. We ate whole grain/whole wheat before it was cool and that remains my taste preference. Of course, we also ate all kinds of organ meats, which may be part of the reason I no longer eat any meat.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    edited July 2021
    ythannah wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    And if we didn't clean our plates, we were given the guilt trip of starving children in Ethiopia.

    Interesting that your starving children were in Ethiopia. Mine were in China.

    I guess it was a generational thing.

    No starving children for me. I grew up with Scottish parents and it was waste of food that was the real horror.

    My petite ladylike mother ate like a bird. My tall lanky father and I would finish her meal. No food was allowed to go to waste. I still feel that need to clean my plate, and I've been known to finish other people's meals.

    Other than that, the influence was more about dietary choices, and it wasn't bad at all. I was taught that vegetables could form an entire meal, meat was not necessary. My dad had hypertension from a young age so we ate low sodium and never added salt. I find most prepared food tastes overly salty to me because I'm used to food without it. We ate whole grain/whole wheat before it was cool and that remains my taste preference. Of course, we also ate all kinds of organ meats, which may be part of the reason I no longer eat any meat.

    Yeah, no starving children for me, either, but I was never a problem child when it comes to food. I always finished everything on my plate. The only thing I refused to eat was chicken and meat, so my mom basically didn't put any on my plate and that was that.

    My family hated wasting food (without starving children). I just remember mom saying she needs to cook/use this or that before it spoils so it doesn't go to waste.