Personal trainer, yay or nay?
hannahfkaye2021
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I'm thinking about joining my local gym but I am a total newbie. I have spoken with a PT who works in a gym close to my home and we had a great chat about my goals and how she can help me, and I think it's really worth a go.
I've been a yo yo dieter for years but I'm finally finding my groove with CICO and I've already lost 22lbs myself with this and walking at lunch, but we are coming into the winter and I know I'm going to find it harder to get out and move.
The PT charges £300 a month for 8 sessions a month (2 a week) but it's a full service, so will have weekly and monthly check ups outside of the PT sessions, support with nutrition and working on strength and resistance.
I also have hip impingement on my right side, and I have a sign off from my physio to start exercising with limits and she can build my gym schedule from scratch just for me.
I feel like it's worth it, but I have had a few people raise issue with how expensive it is, and now I'm doubting myself.
Does anybody have any advice or thoughts?
I've been a yo yo dieter for years but I'm finally finding my groove with CICO and I've already lost 22lbs myself with this and walking at lunch, but we are coming into the winter and I know I'm going to find it harder to get out and move.
The PT charges £300 a month for 8 sessions a month (2 a week) but it's a full service, so will have weekly and monthly check ups outside of the PT sessions, support with nutrition and working on strength and resistance.
I also have hip impingement on my right side, and I have a sign off from my physio to start exercising with limits and she can build my gym schedule from scratch just for me.
I feel like it's worth it, but I have had a few people raise issue with how expensive it is, and now I'm doubting myself.
Does anybody have any advice or thoughts?
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As a professional in the business I may be bias, but I can tell you that I've impacted so many lives of people who were overweight, out of shape, recovering from surgery, recovering from injury, etc. and if you asked them once they met their goals if it was worth it, I'm sure they all would say yes.
Think about it...................so many out there when you get to a certain age just want to be pain free and healthy enough to do some basic physical things for enjoyment. And many go the route of paying a doctor, going to a chiropractor, etc. to get it done when in MANY cases it can be addressed with the correct physical fitness program.
So money will be paid one way or the other, but what result do you want? One where you see a doc for medication and a temporary fix for a symptom, or addressing the issue that causes the pain and strengthening the area and likely getting fitter at the same time?
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I'd always advocate for a trainer. The benefits are well beyond the initial thinking of cost or worth.4
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Value for money is individual but investing in yourself and your health is a great thing to do.
How much support you need or want is personal e.g. returning to exercise or newbie to exercise, confident or anxious in a gym environment....
What kind of support you need is personal e.g. I've never wanted or needed motivation, someone standing by me saying "come on" would just irritate the hell out of me and distract me.
There is a huge range of personal trainers, some excellent, some frankly very limited in their career choices! Basic qualifications can be pretty basic TBH. Many PTs specialise in different areas of fitness - make sure those areas match your needs. Some are great in some areas and hopeless in others.
A PT qualification should just be a start, the good ones continue to study and expand their knowledge. Have you checked what qualifications your potential PT has?
A PT qualification is not a nutrition qualification, PTs may well do extra study into areas including nutrition that interest them but on the other hand some spout the most awful bro science.
Personal training is very erm, personal......
How you get on is important.
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My response to "I'm thinking about joining my local gym but I am a total newbie" is always "hire a PT for at least a few sessions."
However, the price ($413.54) does seem high to me for an intro package. Here in the US we have a problem with PT's giving dietary advice when they are not qualified or even allowed to do so - what are her qualifications? If you are at all hesitant about her dietary qualifications you could ask her to reduce her price and leave that out. The total price might be negotiable as well.
Also, it did not seem like she is connected with the specific gym you are planning to join. If she's not a member, that could raise your costs. Having a PT from your gym could reduce your costs. I've always been given 1-3 free sessions whenever I joined a new gym. I've also taken small group classes for very cheap or free.
That said, if she is fabulous, she'd be totally worth it!
I'm entitled to free massage through my health care but none of the providers are vaccinated so I am paying out of pocket for someone out of network, and he's worth it.2 -
Thank you, all! I definitely think of it as an investment and with my hip issues, if I don't continue to get stronger, it will only come and bite me later.
She even said that it was her job as a personal trainer to actually get me confident enough to not need her anymore, which I thought was positive.
In all the time I have been dieting (20+ years), I've not taken this step and I really feel like it will improve my confidence, so when I'm not with her, I can go to the gym by myself and know what I need to do.7 -
If it's affordable for you, I think it's an excellent idea. Up until the pandemic I worked with a personal trainer for two and a half years, and I was in amazing shape when we had to stop. I was so lucky to have her working with me since I had just joined a gym and could have been randomly assigned anyone. This trainer specialized in working with older and injury limited people, and she really pushed and inspired me while working around my shoulder injury.
If this is a month-to-month arrangement I think you have nothing to lose by trying it out for a month3 -
A good trainer is worth their weight in gold. £37.50 an hour if it was just the face to face sessions is not an unreasonable rate. With ongoing check ins and advice it sounds fair to me. I'd say it's worth signing up for a month on a trial basis. You won't get a fair assessment of progress after one month, in all probability, so be prepared to sign up for another month before you decide for sure. But I wouldn't pay for 2 months up front, personally. Be sure you check what happens if you/she has to miss a session.3
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If you
1) Have a good rapport with this PT
2) Can afford it
3) Ask around and don’t hear anything negative or questionable about this PT
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I have been working with personal trainers on/off over last 15 years and overall it has been a very good experience and I again work with a fantastic trainer.
I still believe in 'You cant outrun a bad diet', so I use the trainer to get fit and strong - but I still manage my food and diet.
As part of a trial to do youtube videos I did a short video 'How to select a trainer' - Perhaps you find it useful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NamQimmRh0
Let me know what you think!1 -
Outside of just being out of Marine Corps bootcamp, I was in the best shape of my life when I was working with my trainer. A good one is gold. I don't work with him much anymore in large part due to the expense, and I learned a lot working with him so as a matter of general fitness I can pretty much program my own stuff...but working with him directly pushed me past points that I would generally not push myself on my own.2
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I have had many personal trainers in the past but not for the last several years. I definitely feel that a trainer can push you harder in the gym than most people can push themselves, so you’re likely to get better results. Make sure they know what they are doing though.
My experience has been trainers are mainly focused on simply getting you stronger in the gym, and not on weight loss. My past trainers didn’t even mention calories, just encouraged low carb diets which I felt horrible on. I often gained weight in the past because the training made me so hungry. I also had one trainer push me way too hard with heavy weights where I injured my back and I now have two bulging discs. I never went back.
If you can afford it, and find one you trust then go for it but if your goal is weight loss, then calories in are still the main thing that matters, IMO.1 -
If you can afford a personal trainer for a few months at least, do it. You will learn so much, and it's added accountability and motivation, especially if you have the right personal trainer for you. I've been doing it for 3 days a week for 3 months, and it's really been an amazing experience. I'd never had a PT before, nor had I actually gone to a gym for more than a few months in the past. When I got my vaccine in May I decided to get a membership and personal training for the first time.1
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The Mind Pump crew posted a quick guide last year:
https://mindpumppodcast.com/blog-post/how-do-i-choose-a-personal-trainer-at-my-local-gym/
They make the point that it's worth checking out their time and trouble working with other gym clients first. (Also recently did a podcast on how to tell you've picked a lemon.)1 -
I was lucky enough to receive free training from a PT and free access to the local mine-site's gym as part of the mine's "giving back to the community" program for a couple years. I really found having one session a week was 1) someone to push me when I might struggle to finish a set
2) someone to talk to about concerns about my body - "my ankles do this when I run, can we do something about that?"
3) he showed me how to lift safely, how to increase my weights when needed, how to work around injuries and when to take a break.
4) it was someone who I wasn't "accountable" to, but who might tell me that the "reasons" I had for not doing my "prescribed" workouts were excuses and poor ones at that
5) having the appointment with him got me out of the house and gave me something to look forward to, even if it was an "ugh, I have PT tonight" feeling
6) I always, ALWAYS came away from his sessions feeling improvement some where, whether I ran faster/further, squatted deeper, lifted heavier, did more reps, learnt a new technique or machine - I always came away in a better mood and with more self confidence
If you can afford it, and it isn't a "lock in" contact (you can cancel any time) and you have the time to do the scheduled sessions - go for it. You won't know you need it/like it/want it, until you try it.4 -
Investing in myself and working with a personal trainer for several years was worth it. Invest at least a few months as by that time, you should have a good understanding of proper use of all equipment at the gym and proper form of exercises that you can carry with you once you decide to go solo. My biggest thing was boredom so my trainer always had multiple ways to achieve a goal so we rarely repeated the same routine.
I will never forget using a piece of equipment in the gym while my trainer stepped away for a moment. Some muscle head decided he wanted to try and tell me that I was doing it wrong when my trainer stepped back in schooled him. My trainer was a former contest winning body builder. He and I only clashed on nutrition but I have to admit, when I brought him evidence that proved him wrong, he change his training materials!2 -
Lots of great comments here. The two biggest benefits I got out of working with a trainer were motivation on those days I didn't feel like showing up and the assurance that I was using correct form when lifting weights. Well worth it. Have fun!1
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I’ve had three trainers.
First was a former Marine drill sergeant who taught me to seriously dislike him and the gym. He had me doing things I was in no shape to do, serves up screams and criticism, and sessions with him were something I forced myself to do.
Second one was some guy at LAFitness. He had no discernible plan, and would let me wimp out when I whined or complained. I took advantage of him, and accomplished nothing.
The third is an older woman who owns her own gym, has a relentless plan in place several weeks out for every moment I’m training, documents every session, doesn’t hesitate to tell me if she suspects I’m under eating or over exercising, constantly critiques my form (and explains why), and has the loudest mouth on the planet- which she uses to scream encouragement. I’d walk on my knees on broken glass for her. I complete my sets if it kills me because I can not bear to disappoint her, and she invariably grins as I collapse and says,”See? I knew you could do it!” and she was right. I just needed someone to push me that little bit extra.
Finding the right trainer may require several attempts, but once found, that right trainer can be life changing, confidence building, an opportunity to learn, and a whole lot of fun, too.
I’m fortunate to be able to afford a trainer. If things were tighter, because of what she does to improve my life- quality of life and health and just emotional support-, I’d happily economize elsewhere.
I figure, too, I’ve probably saved a bundle on therapy or other health related expenses due to improvements accomplished via her tutelage and support.
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Thank you for all your lovely comments. My first session is tomorrow and I am really looking forward to it, and after all these replies, I really feel like I'm making the right choice for me right now! My PT seems really nice and has already sent me an email of what to expect at my first session. I can't wait!4
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I’ve always been on the fence about personal trainers as I’m more of a self-educator.
If you are a self-starter and can follow basic laws of nutrition and fitness, I say save your money. If you need the accountability, guidance, structure and nurturing go for a personal trainer.3 -
krjohnson1292 wrote: »I’ve always been on the fence about personal trainers as I’m more of a self-educator.
If you are a self-starter and can follow basic laws of nutrition and fitness, I say save your money. If you need the accountability, guidance, structure and nurturing go for a personal trainer.
It may work for some, but no others.
Early on, I surreptitiously tried one of the self training programs, out of curiosity and, tbh, hoping for faster results.
My trainer caught me at it, asked me what I was doing, and then told me I was going to hurt myself with my bad form, and that she’s seen it over and over, and basically that I either did it properly in her gym, or not at all.
She wasn’t being a beyotch, she was truly concerned that I was doing things correctly so I wouldn’t hurt myself. As usual, she was right.
I’m her only training client (she wasn’t taking clients and took me for a lark), but she treats everyone in the gym the same way. She’ll call anyone out for incorrect form, and then just as loudly scream encouragement for someone attempting a PR. (And she knows everyone’s PRs by heart.)
Looking at photos or videos of training programs just doesn’t work for me. One reason is that, in my head, the highest, grandest, biggest motion should obviously return the largest results, right?
But she’s shown me that smaller, more focused movements are actually better, and alternates weeks between higher reps and fewer but very slow reps with pauses.
I would have not have understood that- or being me- would have skipped reading about last that part, lol. Those are the workouts that kick my butt.
I’m fortunate I can afford a trainer. If you can’t do it on an extended basis, try to save enough to at least get a few sessions with one to learn the basics.
Or see if you can partner with or shadow someone who is more experienced. Buy em lunch or offer them keto bombs, bake them a cake, treat them to a neck pad or gloves or something.
But for me, if I self trained, there’s so danged much equipment in gyms and so many effective ways to use each one, I’d never know about all the opportunities to change things up, and would be in a rut almost immediately.
I mean there’s one machine (I suck at names it might be the multi station or something like that) that I swear the thing has fifty different handles, five or six different stations and each has multiple heights for different purposes, you can sit on it backwards or forwards, and of course, there’s multiple weights. My eyes roll around like marbles when I get on that thing. Soooo much choice. I find all that very intimidating.
OTOH many people here self train very effectively. @KickassAmazon76 , @DancingMoosie and some of the others on this thread are pretty damn amazing:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10817729/gift-us-your-lifts-or-other-achievements/p1
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PS: having a trainer also means having a dedicated spotter, which helps my confidence a LOT.3
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hannahfkaye2021 wrote: »Thank you for all your lovely comments. My first session is tomorrow and I am really looking forward to it, and after all these replies, I really feel like I'm making the right choice for me right now! My PT seems really nice and has already sent me an email of what to expect at my first session. I can't wait!
@hannahfkaye2021 Please come back and tell us how it goes. Hope you enjoy it.
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Hey,
So I went for my first session tonight and it was awesome! It was really busy but I just focused on my PT, and the rest of the gym faded away!
Everything was really slow and she explained exactly how and why we did each movement.
I can't wait til Thursday. Thank you for all your reassurance!13 -
I had a wonderful PT who helped me with both a shoulder impingement ad a hip labrum tear. When I met him the first time and he asked me about my goals, I asked specifically for exercises that would be beneficial to my overall fitness goals that would not damage my shoulder and hip--and would, in fact improve them.
I went a step further, and asked if I could have an aquatherapy consultation (it's the only PT firm in my area that offers the service) to have the PT examine my current swimming strokes and make recommendations for adjustments that would meet both my PT-strength goals and my overall fitness goals.
I was extremely satisfied. I think the key is having that conversation with your PT about what you really WANT so they build those into your goals for therapy1 -
krjohnson1292 wrote: »I’ve always been on the fence about personal trainers as I’m more of a self-educator.
If you are a self-starter and can follow basic laws of nutrition and fitness, I say save your money. If you need the accountability, guidance, structure and nurturing go for a personal trainer.
This really depends on what you're trying to get out of it. I've been training for decades as both a competitive athlete in my younger years and recreationally on my own. I've always had the absolute best results in my overall performance and fitness when I'm being coached up or working with a trainer. A good coach or trainer is going to have a tremendous breadth of knowledge that just takes things to another level.
At my current age and state of being I'm fine with mostly the basics and just being relatively fit and healthy and can definitely do that on my own...but a good coach or trainer is a game changer if you're wanting more.4 -
hannahfkaye2021 wrote: »I'm thinking about joining my local gym but I am a total newbie. I have spoken with a PT who works in a gym close to my home and we had a great chat about my goals and how she can help me, and I think it's really worth a go.
I've been a yo yo dieter for years but I'm finally finding my groove with CICO and I've already lost 22lbs myself with this and walking at lunch, but we are coming into the winter and I know I'm going to find it harder to get out and move.
The PT charges £300 a month for 8 sessions a month (2 a week) but it's a full service, so will have weekly and monthly check ups outside of the PT sessions, support with nutrition and working on strength and resistance.
I also have hip impingement on my right side, and I have a sign off from my physio to start exercising with limits and she can build my gym schedule from scratch just for me.
I feel like it's worth it, but I have had a few people raise issue with how expensive it is, and now I'm doubting myself.
Does anybody have any advice or thoughts?
Assuming you are already paying your physiotherapist I would just get the training program from them, especially if you have limits you have to work within. That is what I do anyway. They are far more qualified than a "personal trainer" (anyone can call themselves a trainer) and they already know (and more importantly understand) your medical/injury history.1 -
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Assuming you are already paying your physiotherapist I would just get the training program from them, especially if you have limits you have to work within. That is what I do anyway. They are far more qualified than a "personal trainer" (anyone can call themselves a trainer) and they already know (and more importantly understand) your medical/injury history.[/quote]
My physio is under our National Health Service and with covid, I've only had conversations over the phone, even though they sent exercises by email, so I'm not paying them at all.
My physio has written a letter for my trainer with what I can and can't do, and my trainer does have qualifications!5 -
krjohnson1292 wrote: »I’ve always been on the fence about personal trainers as I’m more of a self-educator.
If you are a self-starter and can follow basic laws of nutrition and fitness, I say save your money. If you need the accountability, guidance, structure and nurturing go for a personal trainer.
After many years of ballet, yoga, and becoming a certified yoga teacher, I pay attention to form. I've seen a LOT of bad form at gyms over the years, lol.
My physical therapist was wanting to let me go now that I no longer have pain in my Achilles tendon. I told her that I've been holding back from doing yoga and that my knee pain would probably kick back in once I ramp up yoga again. She suggested I take some classes so a teacher could check my form. I said *I am* a yoga teacher. She said it is still useful for someone else to look at my form.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
She suggested I take some classes so a teacher could check my form. I said *I am* a yoga teacher. She said it is still useful for someone else to look at my form.
I totally agree. At least take video. My form has improved in leaps and bounds by taking video of my lifts. My PT requests them and provides feedback but it has got to the point where I can see myself what's going wrong and can correct from set to set.
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kshama2001 wrote: »krjohnson1292 wrote: »I’ve always been on the fence about personal trainers as I’m more of a self-educator.
If you are a self-starter and can follow basic laws of nutrition and fitness, I say save your money. If you need the accountability, guidance, structure and nurturing go for a personal trainer.
After many years of ballet, yoga, and becoming a certified yoga teacher, I pay attention to form. I've seen a LOT of bad form at gyms over the years, lol.
My physical therapist was wanting to let me go now that I no longer have pain in my Achilles tendon. I told her that I've been holding back from doing yoga and that my knee pain would probably kick back in once I ramp up yoga again. She suggested I take some classes so a teacher could check my form. I said *I am* a yoga teacher. She said it is still useful for someone else to look at my form.
Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods had/have coaches/trainers.1
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