My wife is a feeder
andysport1
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I work away
Whilst I'm away I lose weight
When I'm at home the weight piles on (1kg+ per week)
I'm going home for Christmas for 3 weeks then we have 2 weeks of vacation
She informs me she's bought
4 litres of Bailey's 14000 calories
More alcohol and more chocolate than I can list.
Many times I have said please don't buy any chocolate or alcohol for me (if it's in the house I'll consume it).
How do avoid putting weight on?
How do I get her to change ? (It's too late for this year).
Whilst I'm away I lose weight
When I'm at home the weight piles on (1kg+ per week)
I'm going home for Christmas for 3 weeks then we have 2 weeks of vacation
She informs me she's bought
4 litres of Bailey's 14000 calories
More alcohol and more chocolate than I can list.
Many times I have said please don't buy any chocolate or alcohol for me (if it's in the house I'll consume it).
How do avoid putting weight on?
How do I get her to change ? (It's too late for this year).
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Perhaps telling her to not buy it isn't enough. Perhaps throwing the stuff out/giving it to friends and neighbors would send a clearer message? Or simply saying 'if you buy it, I will throw it out'?
Ultimately your wife should care about your health, and gaining 1kg per week cannot be healthy (unless you're underweight, but I'm guessing you're not?). From your post I can't tell whether it's just her way of showing love when you're back from work and that she hasn't understood it bothers you, or whether it's more compulsive. But couples' counseling might be a good idea.7 -
If I found myself in your situation, I would have an honest conversation with my wife. I would be clear that this level of consumption is not healthy nor sustainable. I would explain that my health and fitness is a priority for me so I can be with her for a long time. You can control how you respond to the situation. Log everything you consume so you're aware of how much you're eating and adjust accordingly. If you are not tracking calories, it's a great time to begin. Also consider reserving some time each day to get out for a walk or other activity you enjoy. Unfortunately, you can't change your wife - she needs to come to that decision herself; but you can explain having an excessive amount of sweets and booze in the house is a challenge for you. Perhaps consider donating unopened treats to local charities or even gift to friends or relatives - anything to get it out of the house if you feel you can't control your impulses right now. Best of luck to you!4
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You can not change OTHER people.
Ever.
Is she buying it because SHE eats and drinks it also or is it FOR YOU. if its FOR YOU- throw it out. give it away. return it to the store. just get rid of it. If she wants to eat it, thats fine, but she needs to take it somewhere else to eat. a friends, work (maybe not the booze), but out of the house or even as stupid as it may sound, a locked cabinet only she has the key to. She needs to respect your choices to make healthier changes for yourself and help in the ways she can.
If she can't, it sounds as though couples counseling may be needed.
On your end, you need to learn how to say no thank you. You need to learn how to have those temptations around, and ignore them. My husband needs to gain weight. I've continued to lose throughout our relationship and marriage. There's always junk food around. I cook nice dinners, and bake sweets for him. Theres a chocolate pie in the fridge right now. I leave it all alone, or have a small portion of 'whatever'. There are very few things that I can NOT eat in moderation, and those things... I dont bring into the house in any quantity (that im not willing to eat then and there lol). So that willpower is something you need to work on. No one can do that for you.11 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »You can not change OTHER people.
Ever.
Is she buying it because SHE eats and drinks it also or is it FOR YOU. if its FOR YOU- throw it out. give it away. return it to the store. just get rid of it. If she wants to eat it, thats fine, but she needs to take it somewhere else to eat. a friends, work (maybe not the booze), but out of the house or even as stupid as it may sound, a locked cabinet only she has the key to. She needs to respect your choices to make healthier changes for yourself and help in the ways she can.
If she can't, it sounds as though couples counseling may be needed.
On your end, you need to learn how to say no thank you. You need to learn how to have those temptations around, and ignore them. My husband needs to gain weight. I've continued to lose throughout our relationship and marriage. There's always junk food around. I cook nice dinners, and bake sweets for him. Theres a chocolate pie in the fridge right now. I leave it all alone, or have a small portion of 'whatever'. There are very few things that I can NOT eat in moderation, and those things... I dont bring into the house in any quantity (that im not willing to eat then and there lol). So that willpower is something you need to work on. No one can do that for you.
I agree 100% with this. She's not going to change. If you've asked her not to buy it (or so much) in the past and she does anyway, and then you eat it...... Well think about it. She may be doing this on purpose. There are spouses that don't want their other half losing weight for various reasons--we've had several interesting threads on the topic over the years.
So, what to do? You do you. Control yourself. If you can moderate, allow a taste once in a while, if not, don't touch it--imagine there's poison in there. Whatever you need to do. Make sure you're logging correctly all your food and drink and see what you can fit in. Another thought is that many go into maintenance for the holidays so they can eat a bit more, and go back into a deficit in January. There are always ways to do things.7 -
Thank you everyone, I don't log my food, thank you for your advice, I sent a few messages
1 Although it's a difficult thing to come to terms with I actually think giving away alcohol and chocolate is probably the best thing for me.
As I've previously said I have very little self control, if it's there I'll eat it or drink it, the more I consume the more I want. As I had said to you "here I have found a solution, if I want something I go and buy it, I don't stock pile chocolate, sweets, alcohol or bread.
I've worked so hard to lose weight again I had my mind set that I would avoid indulgence over Christmas, when I saw you'd bought 4 litres of Bailey's I thought how the hell am I supposed to avoid over indulgence. Those thoughts then made me feel uncomfortable.
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Why would you think all those are for you. I think 4 bottles of Baileys all to yourself is a bit much.
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clearly what I thought has bothered me and caused me concern, I'm letting you know how I thought and felt when you told me you'd purchased 4 bottles of Bailey's plus other things.
*To paint a picture a litre of Bailey's is 3500 calories and I will easily drink a litre in one evening, I'm incapable of one glass2 -
andysport1 wrote: »Thank you everyone, I don't log my food, thank you for your advice, I sent a few messages
1 Although it's a difficult thing to come to terms with I actually think giving away alcohol and chocolate is probably the best thing for me.
As I've previously said I have very little self control, if it's there I'll eat it or drink it, the more I consume the more I want. As I had said to you "here I have found a solution, if I want something I go and buy it, I don't stock pile chocolate, sweets, alcohol or bread.
I've worked so hard to lose weight again I had my mind set that I would avoid indulgence over Christmas, when I saw you'd bought 4 litres of Bailey's I thought how the hell am I supposed to avoid over indulgence. Those thoughts then made me feel uncomfortable.
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Why would you think all those are for you. I think 4 bottles of Baileys all to yourself is a bit much.
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clearly what I thought has bothered me and caused me concern, I'm letting you know how I thought and felt when you told me you'd purchased 4 bottles of Bailey's plus other things.
*To paint a picture a litre of Bailey's is 3500 calories and I will easily drink a litre in one evening, I'm incapable of one glass
How you define yourself is really important. It can become self-fulfilling prophecy. I think you may be letting yourself off the hook, giving yourself excuses to fail.
Consider reframing: In the past, you have been unable to limit consumption, resist treats. You can change. People do, you can. You can become a person who is now learning to limit consumption, resist treats. Will it always go perfectly? No. But if you define it as impossible . . . it is impossible. Try to downgrade it to merely very difficult, and keep working at it. Self-control becomes easier with practice.
It's your job to define your own goals, make the changes you need to make to achieve them. It's not your wife's job to do it for you. (As others have said, it can be fair, as a temporary thing, to ask her to store treats out of your sight, and consume them in ways that aren't waving them in your face, if she wants to keep consuming them herself. It's not reasonable to expect her to give up treats because you want to do so.)
Sometimes partners/spouses feel threatened when we want to change, especially if they're not ready to change themselves (but secretly know such a change would be good for them). They may fear that if we accomplish self-improvements, we'll think we're too good for them and leave - may even think that we're improving ourselves on purpose because we plan to leave them. Is that possible, in your wife's case? If so, maybe it will help to reassure her that you do care for her, want to find a way for both of you to be happy and satisfied, and that you're not remodeling yourself so you can leave her. I don't know whether that scenario is true in your case, but it's a real thing that happens in some couples.
Best wishes!
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My personal rules/guidelines around sharing space and food with other people while trying to manage my weight:
- His food is his. If he buys it, or asks for it to be added to the grocery order, it's not for me, so I don't eat it. Whether he buys salads or Oreos, they aren't for me to eat. If you need to go as far as labeling everything in the fridge "yours" and "mine," do it.
- I am an adult and the boss of what goes into my mouth. No one's holding a gun to my head and making me eat all the snacks in the house and drink all the beer in the fridge just because they are there. The existence of a temptation is not an invitation or an obligation.
- If it ever comes down to "someone needs to eat this food or it needs to be thrown away," it goes in the trash. If he isn't going to eat it and I can't fit it into my budget, tossing it helps the same number of people as me eating it would (that is, 0), and hurts fewer people (1 - because my needs and goals matter too, and eating food I don't need DOES negatively impact my goals and IS hurting myself.)
To expand on the second point: if you are truly not able to moderate your consumption of treats, or mentally recategorize treats that Wife buys as belonging solely to her, it's worth talking again with her and emphasizing that it is difficult for you when she brings these things into the house. If she has trouble hearing that it may be worth bringing in professional help - at that point, it's also a respect issue and you need to address the problem of her not understanding you? believing you? giving a f--k? when you tell her that she is doing something that hurts you.8 -
I would like to add that perhaps your wife doesn't think you're serious, since you then consume what she purchased. There are a lot of people giving lip service to things they have no intention of doing, like I really want to lose weight but never taking action. And people who like the excuse of someone else buying it, bringing it in, etc. I think you need to be clear and consistent in your messaging. Perhaps this holiday season is a good time to have a heart to heart about going forward.
Also, many people show love and caring by giving us food we like, or that is special, or as a way of celebrating, especially if you are away a lot - it might be part of welcoming you home and wanting you to feel loved & appreciated. It may be as she makes these purchases she happily imagines you enjoying them, especially as you have so far regardless of what you've said.
Long distance relationships are hard! Be kind but firm if you have changed, and give her a chance to catch up.
My 2 cents lol!6 -
andysport1 wrote: »*To paint a picture a litre of Bailey's is 3500 calories and I will easily drink a litre in one evening, I'm incapable of one glass
While I do think that buying 4 bottles of Baileys is excessive if you're not entertaining a large number of people, it seems as though you knowing that even one bottle is in the house would cause you to drink the whole bottle (or have a very hard time not doing so). That, to me, screams that you need to work on your impulse control - easier said than done of course. It seems unrealistic and unfair to essentially say "you can't buy xyz things because if you do I will eat them, even if you buy them for yourself".
I does seem that there needs to be some compromise here, but that means that both parties need to give and take.0 -
OP.... heres something for you to think about...
my husband is a recovering alcoholic. He has been sober for 2 years now.
I dont drink often, but do drink. When I do, it t ends to be liquor, which was never his thing, which was beer. Beer doesn't do much for me, though I don't mind it. Just not my thing.
Liquor in the house never bothered him, even right after he stopped drinking, because he didnt like it. But about 6 months after he stopped drinking, we got married, and had cases of beer leftover at the house, and I'd be lying if I wasn't a *tad* concerned it would be a bit too tempting for him. One day I saw him picking up a case of it and asked him (as nonchalantly as I could) what he was doing with it.
'Taking it over to so and so's house'
'really? why?'
'Well, I'm not going to drink it. Youre not going to drink it, someone may as well drink it'
And he took those cases over to his buddys house, and was home in 15 minutes. And I knew then, he had beaten his demons.
You, too, can beat your demons.
If you want to.13 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »OP.... heres something for you to think about...
my husband is a recovering alcoholic. He has been sober for 2 years now.
I dont drink often, but do drink. When I do, it t ends to be liquor, which was never his thing, which was beer. Beer doesn't do much for me, though I don't mind it. Just not my thing.
Liquor in the house never bothered him, even right after he stopped drinking, because he didnt like it. But about 6 months after he stopped drinking, we got married, and had cases of beer leftover at the house, and I'd be lying if I wasn't a *tad* concerned it would be a bit too tempting for him. One day I saw him picking up a case of it and asked him (as nonchalantly as I could) what he was doing with it.
'Taking it over to so and so's house'
'really? why?'
'Well, I'm not going to drink it. Youre not going to drink it, someone may as well drink it'
And he took those cases over to his buddys house, and was home in 15 minutes. And I knew then, he had beaten his demons.
You, too, can beat your demons.
If you want to.
You know--this is a great story.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »OP.... heres something for you to think about...
my husband is a recovering alcoholic. He has been sober for 2 years now.
I dont drink often, but do drink. When I do, it t ends to be liquor, which was never his thing, which was beer. Beer doesn't do much for me, though I don't mind it. Just not my thing.
Liquor in the house never bothered him, even right after he stopped drinking, because he didnt like it. But about 6 months after he stopped drinking, we got married, and had cases of beer leftover at the house, and I'd be lying if I wasn't a *tad* concerned it would be a bit too tempting for him. One day I saw him picking up a case of it and asked him (as nonchalantly as I could) what he was doing with it.
'Taking it over to so and so's house'
'really? why?'
'Well, I'm not going to drink it. Youre not going to drink it, someone may as well drink it'
And he took those cases over to his buddys house, and was home in 15 minutes. And I knew then, he had beaten his demons.
You, too, can beat your demons.
If you want to.
You know--this is a great story.
We're around people who drink ALL the time. his coworkers, friends, we have a big halloween party every year, etc. every time he starts on a new job site he has to train his co workers that he DOESNT drink. it always takes them awhile to 'get it'. LOL
But it doesnt bother him to be around people who ARE drinking. he doesnt think anything about it. Right at first it was harder, I know, but as time went on... it became something he thought less and less about, as far as being something they had that he wanted. And he will be the first one to tell people that he knew he could have the beer or he could have his wife, and there was no choice at all (and he was right, I would have made that decision for him-i don't give ultimatums). But it boils down to that when someone wants something badly enough, they make the changes they need to. Even when they are hard
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My daughter doesn't live with me, but she knows what I like so when she's out shopping she will buy me some of my favorite goodies which aren't good for me. I thank her and have reminded her nicely not to buy those things for me unless I ask her, because most times I have control and sometimes I just don't. Things like lindor chocolate I've had to toss out or lays potato chips, although I've loss 50 ish pounds I've eaten these along the way just can't keep them stockpiled in the house or I lose my mind over eating them
And in no way do I feel my daughter is sabotaging me, alot of people show care through gifts of feeding us meals, snacks etc. She has slipped at times and made these purchases, but she has stopped recently unless I asked for something while she is out shopping. I know easier said then done for some, but unless you can return these items, I would toss out the portion that is for you, that is what I've done even when I made the poor judgement to make the purchases myself.
Take care you got this.4 -
Every time I see this thread title, I get irritated.
Your wife is a feeder? She forces your jaws open and force feeds you like a veal calf?
I understand the issue, but this comes off as shifting the blame.
When my husband found out he was diabetic 20 or so years ago, he changed his diet completely. I didn’t. I went to his diabetic training classes with him, but still brought in sack loads of sweets, pies etc. Didn’t bother to hide them or be discreet. He stuck to his guns, though and seldom ate them.
When I went on MFP, it was the reverse. I got rid of all the sweets and would no longer buy them. He would buy his own snacks and hide them.
Once, I found a bag of chocolate hidden in the toolbox and ate the whole damn thing to “show him”. No. Not really. Only in my head at that moment. I am greedy (notice I didn’t say “was”) and have no Off switch, and any sweets are fair game.
Thank heavens, now we are both on MFP. Life has improved so much. No feeling like I have to justify foods, or rationalize weighing, we have yet another shared interest, we are a team with this good thing. However, I would have kept to it even if he hadn’t come over to the Scale Side.
It’s our own minds we have to control, not someone else’s. If you’re blaming her for this, you’re passing blame in other parts of your marriage, too. I know. I’m the expert in the Blame Game. Ironically with weight loss, the need to blame in any arena has reduced, too. I sincerely believe doing this together has strengthened our relationship even more.
Set an example, don’t nag bully or whine , and maybe she’ll join you when she sees the results.7 -
Thanks, Im going to find some self help reading3
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Definitely look into a way to keep control of this - and I'm not saying it's easy, but.
Fun personal story time.
My husband said for years he'd lose weight when I treated him like a pet and fed him the proper amount. Excuse the crap out of me? He thought he was being funny, I wanted to throttle him for it. He's a grown adult and I do grocery shop and cook but uh. He can choose how much he eats.
I eventually decided *I* was losing weight and joined MFP. So did he. The grocery shops changed and what came into the house changed - mostly. How often and how I cooked changed. What did not was what HE brought into the house, mostly for me (oh irony) because he knew I loved it.
Ultimate irony? I lost faster and more consistently than he did.
Because ONE OF US was not making someone outside ourselves responsible for food decisions. I'd make a perfectly healthy dinner well within a reasonable calorie amount for a dinner and he'd eat 3 servings of it. Or eat 8 apples after dinner.
Meanwhiile he'd bring me home a thousand calorie brownie, I'd say thanks, cut it into 4ths and put 3 of them in the freezer for later.
Struggling is okay but OWN YOUR OWN STUFF.4 -
I just wonder if your partner is trying to treat you because she is so pleased to have your company after your times away.
I'd like to think she is not trying to harm you, just trying to make a fuss of you because you are that special to her. Is is possible to find a way to let her know she has no need too buy all these stores in. I hope rehoming the things you will not use in the three weeks you are home gets the point across. Can you try to suggest other treats, fruits and the like. I'm wondering how her family celebrations were centered. Could be a reeducation job.
All the very best.1 -
I went through this with a former boyfriend. Repeated conversations about it didn't work. Refusing the food only lead to increased pressure and arguments about it. I told him if he continued to pressure me, I'd throw it on the floor (which I did to no effect). He never got the message. After gaining the 30 pounds I had worked so hard to lose, I'd had enough and ended the relationship. It wasn't so much the weight gain as unhappiness dealing with the pressure he put on me and the lack of support and listening to my own needs.
The point is, sometimes it's not just your own willpower to ignore food in the pantry. It's a struggle against another person actively pushing food on you for whatever purpose it serves for THEM. If you want to solve this problem, you're going to need to get to the real reason why your spouse has this desire to push something on you that you don't want. And find a way to communicate your own needs in a way that your spouse can understand and support. I wish you lots of luck and hope you both find a solution that works!4 -
If clearly stating your needs to your partner repeatedly isn't working, then consider couples counselling.2
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Bump--I knew I'd seen a title like this before.3
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