Lies of food.

This is scary as balls.

thanks for the read. adulterers of food deserve the deepest realm of the seven hells. wish i could check out, grow my own. but even the seed nowadays has been two-point-o'd, so wtf...

:grumble: All right. Anybody wanna start a COMMUNE?? Geez.

Err...horrifying?

...Really?


I was expecting things like cows are actually chickens...but it's nothing more than stuff we probably already knew, and don't really care about, and will never notice the difference anyway!

They put stuff in fresh orange juice to make it last longer! Im horrified!

...how did we think it lasted so long?

A dollar is a vote, and as long as we keep buying crap, that's what the food industry will sell us.

Thank god for that. It'd be far more boring without CHOICE.

Err...horrifying?

...Really?


I was expecting things like cows are actually chickens...but it's nothing more than stuff we probably already knew, and don't really care about, and will never notice the difference anyway!

They put stuff in fresh orange juice to make it last longer! Im horrified!

...how did we think it lasted so long?

Wow, I can't believe the I don't care attitude here..................Why don't you care?

This is the reason why we have so many re-calls on foods and the factory farming system. Because so many people don't care.

You do realize those packaged "food" products you purchase in the store are not real food????

As long as the above attitude keeps being displayed by people voting with their dollars in this manner - things are only going to get worse.

This doesn't bother me in the least. For example, I would rather have meat treated with ammonia than not treated.

Err...horrifying?

...Really?


I was expecting things like cows are actually chickens...but it's nothing more than stuff we probably already knew, and don't really care about, and will never notice the difference anyway!

They put stuff in fresh orange juice to make it last longer! Im horrified!

...how did we think it lasted so long?

Wow, I can't believe the I don't care attitude here..................Why don't you care?

This is the reason why we have so many re-calls on foods and the factory farming system. Because so many people don't care.

You do realize those packaged "food" products you purchase in the store are not real food????

As long as the above attitude keeps being displayed by people voting with their dollars in this manner - things are only going to get worse.

You do realise that not everyone WANTS to eat 100% clean? And that we've been eating this stuff for years and years, and it's never done us any provable harm? Im surprised people didn't already know a lot of this stuff either. Not everyone's ideal food future is the same as yours!

And really...is this "horrifying" to you? I can think of far worse things that are actually "horrifying". This is just a minor wakeup call to those who want to, and think they are, eating 100% clean.

I was expecting things like cows are actually chickens...but it's nothing more than stuff we probably already knew, and don't really care about, and will never notice the difference anyway!

Err.... never notice the difference? You haven't noticed everyone getting fatter and sicker? I don't think that's the result of excess calories from whole foods from local farmers (butter and bacon included!).

Err...you think the main reason for "everyone" getting fatter and sicker is things like this?

You do realise that not everyone WANTS to eat 100% clean? And that we've been eating this stuff for years and years, and it's never done us any provable harm? Im surprised people didn't already know a lot of this stuff either. Not everyone's ideal food future is the same as yours!

I do realize it. It baffles me, but have at it. I'm trying to prevent my family from suffering debilitating "diseases of civilization" that, I believe, are almost entirely preventable with decent nutrition and lifestyle.

I'm not 100% "clean" (whatever that means) but I just like *my* food to be food that my grandmother would have recognized (to steal from Michael Pollan). To each their own.

You do realise that not everyone WANTS to eat 100% clean? And that we've been eating this stuff for years and years, and it's never done us any provable harm? Im surprised people didn't already know a lot of this stuff either. Not everyone's ideal food future is the same as yours!

I do realize it. It baffles me, but have at it. I'm trying to prevent my family from suffering debilitating "diseases of civilization" that, I believe, are almost entirely preventable with decent nutrition and lifestyle.

I'm not 100% "clean" (whatever that means) but I just like *my* food to be food that my grandmother would have recognized (to steal from Michael Pollan). To each their own.

It's all about how much you are willing to sacrifice. If you want to be a professional sportsman, you have to dedicate 100% of your life to it.

If you want that perfect physique, that 6 pack, that perfect toning, you have to sacrifice a hell of a lot of the tasty stuff.

To many people, it's just not worth it. Id rather eat 80% clean, and really enjoy food and life, than have to cut a ton of stuff out and have 100% healthy. Im the sort of person who really wouldn't notice that small an improvement, but would really miss the stuff i cut out.

To each their own.

Exactly. I don't eat "100% clean" (or whatever). It's just that I'd rather have butter than margarine and whole cream in my coffee over a non-fat, non-dairy flavored creamer, etc. That's what *IS* tasty to me.

Lol, for the last 100 years, food has had additives added to them. The food I ate in the 70's (Spam, Vienna sausages, McDonald's) is pretty much the same as now. All this "scare mongering" is nothing more than propaganda. Why are people fatter? Because they consume more than they need to. Why are they sicker? Because they are fatter. There are HUNDREDS of healthy professional athletes that eat this food. Stick to the facts. Eat less and you lose weight. Lose weight and you increase your chances for getting sick less. Eat your essentials and stay within your caloric range and you'll maintain weight.

Err...horrifying?

...Really?


I was expecting things like cows are actually chickens...but it's nothing more than stuff we probably already knew, and don't really care about, and will never notice the difference anyway!

They put stuff in fresh orange juice to make it last longer! Im horrified!

...how did we think it lasted so long?

Wow, I can't believe the I don't care attitude here..................Why don't you care?

This is the reason why we have so many re-calls on foods and the factory farming system. Because so many people don't care.

You do realize those packaged "food" products you purchase in the store are not real food????

As long as the above attitude keeps being displayed by people voting with their dollars in this manner - things are only going to get worse.

You do realise that not everyone WANTS to eat 100% clean? And that we've been eating this stuff for years and years, and it's never done us any provable harm? Im surprised people didn't already know a lot of this stuff either. Not everyone's ideal food future is the same as yours!

And really...is this "horrifying" to you? I can think of far worse things that are actually "horrifying". This is just a minor wakeup call to those who want to, and think they are, eating 100% clean.

Umm, No everyone hasn't been eating this stuff for years...................

I grew up on home grown meat, fruits and vegetables. In fact, I never had fast food until I went into the military and I didn't like it. until years later. It was easy for me to give up because it was never a part of my life.

I have never eaten packaged foods either. I have never had hamburger helper or any of those boxed skillet meals - that sounds gross and disgusting to me too.

I didn't grow up with store bought cookies, potato chips, etc. I don't like chocolate. I won't drink milk unless it is straight from a cow. I can't eat store bought eggs either - grossest thing ever............

And the fact that this nation is getting FATTER and SICKER and we are facing a health care crisis is PROOF enough of the provable harm.

If anyone is eating anything Packaged, including bread, then they are not eating 100% clean.

I eat between 80 and 90% clean - the most processed thing I have is some store bought bacon from time to time or some smoked sausage that might have been cured with nitrates.

I did know most of this stuff already and hence the reason for the last 2 1/2 almost 3 years I have not bought very much meat from a regular grocery store at all. I have purchased into a CSA for vegetables and I go pick my own fruit at the pick your own farm down the road from me.

I don't understand why people don't want to put their health first???? My health and well being is the #1 most important thing I have. Some packaged cakes or cookies is soo not worth putting my health at stake.

Umm, No everyone hasn't been eating this stuff for years...................

I grew up on home grown meat, fruits and vegetables. In fact, I never had fast food until I went into the military and I didn't like it. until years later. It was easy for me to give up because it was never a part of my life.

I have never eaten packaged foods either. I have never had hamburger helper or any of those boxed skillet meals - that sounds gross and disgusting to me too.

I didn't grow up with store bought cookies, potato chips, etc. I don't like chocolate. I won't drink milk unless it is straight from a cow. I can't eat store bought eggs either - grossest thing ever............

And the fact that this nation is getting FATTER and SICKER and we are facing a health care crisis is PROOF enough of the provable harm.

If anyone is eating anything Packaged, including bread, then they are not eating 100% clean.

I eat between 80 and 90% clean - the most processed thing I have is some store bought bacon from time to time or some smoked sausage that might have been cured with nitrates.

I did know most of this stuff already and hence the reason for the last 2 1/2 almost 3 years I have not bought very much meat from a regular grocery store at all. I have purchased into a CSA for vegetables and I go pick my own fruit at the pick your own farm down the road from me.

I don't understand why people don't want to put their health first???? My health and well being is the #1 most important thing I have. Some packaged cakes or cookies is soo not worth putting my health at stake.

And of course we all grew up EXACTLY like you. Thanks for clearing that up.

Lol, for the last 100 years, food has had additives added to them. The food I ate in the 70's (Spam, Vienna sausages, McDonald's) is pretty much the same as now. All this "scare mongering" is nothing more than propaganda. Why are people fatter? Because they consume more than they need to. Why are they sicker? Because they are fatter. There are HUNDREDS of healthy professional athletes that eat this food. Stick to the facts. Eat less and you lose weight. Lose weight and you increase your chances for getting sick less. Eat your essentials and stay within your caloric range and you'll maintain weight.

I agree that not everyone who eats a bunch of processed food is overweight or sick or that everyone who is overweight or sick is that way because they eat a lot of processed food. I am saying that, from a broad perspective, you cannot argue that our food system has shifted dramatically over the past century (and yeah, the late 60s/70s was when a lot of the shift began--not arguing with you there). And, along with that shift, our waistlines and our health.

Yeah, we are definitely eating more calories today than we were a century ago. Have we suddenly just gotten hungrier? Or is it that cheap, addictive, highly-palatable calories lacking in micronutrients are easier to come by?

I don't think that wood pulp or ammonia in and of itself is highly palatable. That's not what I am saying. I just think these are symptoms of a terribly broken food system and, by consequence, a very unhealthy population.

Some of us didn't grow up with eating that stuff in the 70's..................

My point is that additives and chemicals are nothing new to food. Whether you ate it or not, it still existed as it does today.

Actually the food additives are different...............

There wasn't sugar and trans fats in everything. Packaged things were made with real sugar and coconut or palm oil until the corn and canola agencies ran them out of the country and everything got switched over to high fructose corn syrup and partially hydrogenated oils.

Bread and other packaged items went stale and molded. Milk soured and curdled.....................Things don't go bad for a long time now days...............

I was talking to my friend about this and she grew up on that packaged stuff and she said she is trying to not let her kids have that stuff because it is NOT the same as it was in the 70's and it dang sure is not the same as it was 100 years ago.

I am pretty sure these food scientists that boast about their contributions were not alive 100 years ago.