I’m trying and trying and nada
kt9pk2xwwc
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I don’t understand. 9 months of counting, weighing and NEVER cheating. I eat the same thing every day and never eat anything else. It works out to be 1224 calories exactly. I walk an average of 66km a week that includes rock climbing, hills and jogging. I mow and do a lot of gardening and have a physical job. Despite all this I’m unable to shed a single gram and it’s been 9 months. I tried eating more as my PT suggested and now I weigh an extra kg more that I can’t remove. It’s really upsetting. I watch my macros. I do everything I should. My TDEE is Approx 1600-2200 depending on activity levels that day. I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong? The only thing I can think of that’s changed is I started a progesterone only pill six months ago. Surely that wouldn’t cause this? Help!
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Your metabolism may have adapted to lower calories. Your body is a homeostasis machine so if you keep under fuelling it then it will have to lower energy expenditure to match up to that. Imagine if there was a famine and your body continued to burn loads of calories at the same rate…you would die so quickly. But it doesn’t do that. Instead it slows down metabolic processes, thyroid hormones, hair begins to fall out, muscle loss, cold hands and feet and many more adaptations occur just to keep you alive! I’ve been through this and it’s not pretty at all. Please please listen to your PT and eat more. That 1kg is just water/glycogen weight- it’s nothing to freak out about. How much weight have you got to lose and how tall are you and how much do you weigh?1
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You say you've been counting for 9 months, but your profile is brand new and we'd need your stats and information from your food diary to help. If you've got more information post back.3
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Are you weighing your food using a gram scale?3
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I just got this app but have been counting with my PT using a gram scale.1
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Talk to a dietitian. Something isn't adding up and something obviously your PT can't figure out either. Occam's razor would dictate you're not in a deficit.7
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I’m definitely in a deficit. 1224 every. Single. Day. I never faulter. I never cheat. I never change the foods I eat. I always weigh.
I didn’t think your body got used to lower calories but if so you could be into something. However, I put that kg on months ago (eating at 1400 for a two weeks) and it’s still not off even after I went back to my 1224. I’m just maintaining. I do have a thyroid nodule that appears cancerous and I need more biopsies done but they tested my levels and everything seemed normal. They did full blood work and I had low bicarbonate or something but otherwise I was ok.
I just don’t know what to do.
I’m 163cm and 80kg. I walk 12-15km a day on rough, hilly terrain plus lead an active lifestyle most days. Some days it’s just a 7km walk around town if I’ve got a lot on.1 -
A person simply can't know exactly how many calories their body uses on any given day, humans are a hundred years away from getting even close to knowing, and even when people are controlled and aware they will be graded even dietitians are out 200 or more calories a day which doesn't give an average person much hope of being close. The calories in labeled foods can be out, a lot. It's either medical or you're not in a deficit. The best we can hope for is if a person is losing weight, then they're in deficit territory. imo.
https://weightology.net/do-dietitians-accurately-report-their-food-intake/#:~:text=The%20results%20showed%20that%20the%20dietitians%20underreported%20their,it%20does%20not%20eliminate%20the%20phenomena%20of%20underreporting.
The results showed that the dietitians underreported their food intake by an average of 223 calories per day, while the non-dietitians underreported their intake by an average of 429 calories per day. Thus, while being a dietitian improves the accuracy of self-report of food intake, it does not eliminate the phenomena of underreporting5 -
I think the posts above cover the obvious...but eating the same thing every day can't be a good thing, either. I eat on average 25-30 different types of just fruits and vegetables every week. Many different protein sources. Several varieties of grains. Several types of nuts and legumes. Five or more different types of oils. Dairy, eggs.
I get a lot of variety because there are different nutrients in each of those different foods and I believe weight is tied to nutrition to a certain degree, not to mention the joy of life. If for no other reason than sheer boredom and frustration why don't you branch out a bit in your nutrition?
I hope you get your thyroid sorted. That must be stressful. Stress is another thing to consider when attempting weight loss...3 -
Even if my calories are 400 out they’re still 200 beneath my lowest TDEE.
Thanks but I have many intolerances and food aversions. I take vitamins so I don’t miss out on anything. I don’t like food. I don’t enjoy eating. It’s just something I have to do to stay alive. I don’t like how it feels. It’s a sensory issue. It’s not pleasant for me.1 -
Got it on the food aversion.
200 calories under TDEE would lead to less than a half pound per week weight loss. That would be IF YOU are logging every single thing accurately and IF your TDEE is actually calculated correctly - which, it likely isn't since you have lost nothing. It feels to me like you're not being truthful somewhere (maybe not purposely, but still.)
To be fair, I've logged food with a digital food scale for about 14 years and I know for an absolute FACT that I make at least 200 calories per day in errors due to the vague quality of food prep, and varying daily activity level.
Good luck.
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I’m being completely truthful! What’s the point of lying of omitting stuff if I want to see change. I do yard work so when I’m not climbing mountains I’m mowing lawns, cutting down and hand hauling trees, digging trenches and gardens. My PT worked out that my TDEE is between 1800-2300 conservatively. I just don’t know what to do. I could cut back even more and see if that works I suppose.2
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So I don't think we'll be able to resolve this here without hard data.
Can I suggest you log here for about a week, then open your diary and we'll have a look to see if something is off. One of the commonly wrong things, next to not logging oils, condiments and drinks correctly is simply poor calorie data. Like you eat an avocado and find a certain calorie amount which is incorrect and the right database entry would be much higher.
Also one thing to consider: over what period of time did you gain the weight, and what happened once you reached 80kg? Did the weight stay approximately the same? If so then you found your maintenance calories for that weight. All you need to do is eat less than that.4 -
kt9pk2xwwc wrote: »I’m being completely truthful! What’s the point of lying of omitting stuff if I want to see change. I do yard work so when I’m not climbing mountains I’m mowing lawns, cutting down and hand hauling trees, digging trenches and gardens. My PT worked out that my TDEE is between 1800-2300 conservatively. I just don’t know what to do. I could cut back even more and see if that works I suppose.
With that amount of activity, there is NO WAY you would not be losing weight at 1200 calories per day, so you've got your logging to blame, then. Unless you're yanking our chain, which I'm starting to suspect.
Only other explanation would be some weird metabolic disorder, see a doctor.11 -
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cmriverside wrote: »kt9pk2xwwc wrote: »I’m being completely truthful! What’s the point of lying of omitting stuff if I want to see change. I do yard work so when I’m not climbing mountains I’m mowing lawns, cutting down and hand hauling trees, digging trenches and gardens. My PT worked out that my TDEE is between 1800-2300 conservatively. I just don’t know what to do. I could cut back even more and see if that works I suppose.
With that amount of activity, there is NO WAY you would not be losing weight at 1200 calories per day, so you've got your logging to blame, then. Unless you're yanking our chain, which I'm starting to suspect.
Only other explanation would be some weird metabolic disorder, see a doctor.
I agree. Something is very off. If you are doing as much activity as you say and you are only eating 1200 calories, you should feel very tired, light headed, etc. I'm shorter than you and I can't function on 1200 calories, and I don't do nearly the amount of activity you do.4 -
Umm, normal water fluctuations would cause the scale to change daily. You’re saying you “haven’t lost a gram”. So my question is, when’s the last time you changed the battery on your scale?6
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I’m not lying if that’s what you mean by yanking a chain. I came here for help but I’m getting none just like in real life. I’ve had my bloods checked for this very reason because I wanted to work out if something was wrong, I’ve called my PT crying my heart out because I don’t understand it. I’m trying SO HARD but nothing changes. I’m done here. I can’t handle being accused of lying when I’m just asking for help. Thanks to those who tried. I log oils, sauces, drinks, everything.I guess I’ll just be what I am. Thanks anyway.1
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People have tried to suggest ways in which you could be mistaken in your counting - and have done so extremely tactfully.
Unfortunately you have taken that as personal accusations, rather than an attempt to get to the bottom of things.
We really cant help any more without hard data- say, a week of logging in MFP and then open your diary.
No good asking for help if you are not willing to provide that.
You can see a doctor to rule out medical issues - but it seems unlikely to be medical cause. Other than fluid retention weight gain, which would only happen if you had severe renal or cardiac failure, which you obviously don't if you manage the type of physical activities you describe, then what medical cause could there be?
Or see a registered dietician - not a PT, this is clearly out of their scope of practice - but he/she will also want the sort of hard data we do, to make any meaningful conclusions.
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CICO is math (with regular life wiggle room). So when you insist that for you, 2+3=17, and then ask us to show you why 2+3 does not equal 5, we cannot figure out why that is the case if you are insisting the 2 is accurate and the 3 is accurate. It doesn't make sense, so folks here are saying something isn't adding up (no pun intended). Assuming math works in your body like it does on everyone else's body, if everything you shared is accurate, then maybe it's time to see a doctor or specialist.7
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