Fatty acids, Omega 3-6-9

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Decided to take nutrition more seriously and add a fish oil supplement since I dont eat fish.

I noticed a lot of people talk about omega 3 in fitness, recomminding roughly 3g combined EPA and DHA, but not a lot of talk about omega 6 and omega 9, other than 6 is also essential, some mentioning a 5:1 ratio roughly between 3 and 6 for inflammation purposes.

Why is there only omega 3 in most fitness supplements? Do I really need to take 2 or 3 different ones?

It is difficult to find proper information - ideally I would find a reasonably priced good product with all that I need in terms of fatty acids.

Any pointer to proper info or inputs appreciated!!

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  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,867 Member
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    Decided to take nutrition more seriously and add a fish oil supplement since I dont eat fish.

    I noticed a lot of people talk about omega 3 in fitness, recomminding roughly 3g combined EPA and DHA, but not a lot of talk about omega 6 and omega 9, other than 6 is also essential, some mentioning a 5:1 ratio roughly between 3 and 6 for inflammation purposes.

    Why is there only omega 3 in most fitness supplements? Do I really need to take 2 or 3 different ones?

    It is difficult to find proper information - ideally I would find a reasonably priced good product with all that I need in terms of fatty acids.

    Any pointer to proper info or inputs appreciated!!

    Omega 3 is often supplemented because it is what is mostly lacking as a lot of people don't eat or don't eat enough fatty fish like salmon or tuna. Omega 6 and 9 are present in our day to day vegetable and seed cooking oils, as well as a variety of other foods and are far easier to come by with just a normal diet. If you want to emphasize them, eat your seeds and nuts and avocados and use cooking oils like olive oil and avocado oil.

    Most people get plenty of Omega 6. The body also produces Omega 9. There really isn't much reason to supplement these which is why the emphasis is on Omega 3...most people are deficient.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,882 Member
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    What the Wolfman said.

    Here are a couple of consumer-friendly articles from decent and very mainstream sources that pretty much say that same thing:

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/types-of-fat/omega-3-fats/

    https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-Consumer/

    If you want to science geek a little without going all the way to research studies, there's a "for professionals" version of the latter:

    https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthProfessional/

    They all focus on Omega-3s, a thing I understand you were confused about (i.e., why others aren't emphasized), but they do seem to contain some explanation of why Omega-3 is the focus (echoing Wolfman).
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,021 Member
    edited December 2022
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    Solid info from both wolfman and Ann.

    I'll just add that quality is king in this regard and from what I've gleaned from the research almost 25% of all omega 3 supplements from fish are rancid, not a good thing.

    I would suggest a good Krill oil as opposed to a fish oil, it's what I've been using for years. Krill are only found in Antarctic waters and have a very short life cycle which translates into less heavy metals and actually krill have pretty much none. They're also better absorbed by humans than fish oil because they have the addition of phospholipids which is the fatty acid chain that EPA and DHA are attached to and also have astaxanthin which is a powerful antioxidant and krill oil have a few fat soluble vitamins which are D,A and E. which fish oil doesn't contain for the most part unless added.

    To check quality of that whatever you decide to purchase make sure it's been approved either by IFOS (international fish oil standards) or by IKOS (international krill oil standards) We really don't want to be consuming inferior or rancid fish oil considering it's one of the reasons why were taking omega 3's to begin with. Cheers
  • Michaelfloe
    Michaelfloe Posts: 17 Member
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    Didnt expect any responses, thanks a lot! really enjoying being part of the community.

    So I should be good without omega 6 and 9 supplements, got it.

    Heard a bit about krill oil but it sounded like snake oil (no pun intended). Looked at it and it seems like it could be better. However all the products have terrible EPA and DHA contents ranging from 100-300mg per recommended daily dosis. This means I have to take at least 10x a day to get the recommended EPA+DHA dosis which seems crazy and super expensive. I realize it has a higher bioavailability but as far as I can understand it is nowhere near 10x higher and therefore regular fish oil seems like a much better choice.

    Am I wrong here or what? Thoughts?
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,363 Member
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    Didnt expect any responses, thanks a lot! really enjoying being part of the community.

    So I should be good without omega 6 and 9 supplements, got it.

    Heard a bit about krill oil but it sounded like snake oil (no pun intended). Looked at it and it seems like it could be better. However all the products have terrible EPA and DHA contents ranging from 100-300mg per recommended daily dosis. This means I have to take at least 10x a day to get the recommended EPA+DHA dosis which seems crazy and super expensive. I realize it has a higher bioavailability but as far as I can understand it is nowhere near 10x higher and therefore regular fish oil seems like a much better choice.

    Am I wrong here or what? Thoughts?

    Where are you getting that EPA/DHA goal from? That seems really high - are you confusing it with a total 'fish oil' goal?

    Results of a quick google search:

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,021 Member
    edited December 2022
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    Your right, krill generally has about half the EPA and DHA compared to fish oil but depending on the brand of fish oils the amounts will vary and some brands of fish oil have very little. People generally opt for the biggest bang for the buck. I'll drop a site that compares fish oils. I consume quite a bit of fish that have omega 3's and supp with krill but anything is better than nothing. Cheers

    https://healthline.com/nutrition/best-fish-oil-supplement
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,021 Member
    edited December 2022
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    Yeah, most people think a 1000mg fish oil tablet is all fish oil. Cheers
  • Michaelfloe
    Michaelfloe Posts: 17 Member
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    Just spent an hour looking at dosage. A lot of people confuse a recommended MINIMUM dose with an OPTIMAL dose, which in almost all videos and articles I looked at is 1-4g per day. Only few cite actual studies and there are a million of them so its very hard to figure out precisely. American Heart Association recommends 1g per day for example. Most fitness youtubers say 3g but dont cite studies..
    Read multiple places that up to 5g is not too much, so I think this range is somewhat what I will go for.

    Looks like its hard to get enough from krill oil. The difference is probably unnoticable anyway.
    Will probably go for this one by Puori since its cheap, recommended and certified for purity and environment: https://puori.com/products/o3-ultra-pure-fish-oil-capsules