Newly menopausal - Difficulty losing weight
mangolady2013
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Any women out there having sustainable weight loss success since being peri menopause/menopause? Things/ways that helped in the past aren’t now (calorie restriction, increased exercise). Been doing time restriction eating (10-16 hours “fasting” with subsequent 8-14 hour eating window. BTW, trying to keep carbohydrates low and healthy food choices).
There’s tons of snake oil pills, powders, supplements, etc,… on the internet and social media promising weight loss.
Has anything or means been helpful and sustainable?
There’s tons of snake oil pills, powders, supplements, etc,… on the internet and social media promising weight loss.
Has anything or means been helpful and sustainable?
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I promise calorie restriction will still work. You can't go against the law of thermodynamics. Unless you're a unicorn. Unicorns can do whatever they want I suppose. Also "healthy" food choices, while great, are not going to directly cause weight loss. Avocado is healthy, but has a lot of calories. Same with nuts. Your calorie needs may have changed over the years. There are many women here who have lost weight post-menopause, hopefully one will pop in to give some advice.6
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When you say calorie restriction and exercise don't work, what period are you talking about that you tried? As I understand it, perimenopause is often accompanied by greater water weight fluctuations, which means you need to give it more time before evaluating if your strategy is working.
I would recommend using a weight trending app such as Libra (for Android) or Happy Scale (for iOS) to get a better view of your progress.
In the end it's about finding the right number of calories to lose weight. Low carb, time restricted eating,... are possible tools to lower calorie intake, but no guarantee for weight loss in and of themselves.
Going too low in your calories can backfire (large calorie deficit = stress = possible cause of water retention, and eating too little can drain your energy level) and exercise, while healthy, can also cause water retention when it's new or more intense than before. So it's important to be patient.
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I lost all my weight (80 pounds) after menopause.
I logged all of my food here every day, took hour long walks and the weight came off at just about the rate set here on this site. I did make a few calorie adjustments myself along the way. There are several other women on these forums with similar experience(s.)
It was pretty hard for the last 15 pounds, for me. I still lost the weight, but I'd have to agree that it wasn't as easy as in my twenties when I just would stop eating breakfast and desserts for a week or two. When I was younger I never had more than a few pounds to lose. As I got older it became easier to put the weight on, for sure. To be fair, I was way more active when I was younger and I had more muscle mass to feed. I was getting regular exercise when I was younger. I had an active job. I had a family to run after. etc. In my forties I just sat around a lot more, and I had acquired a pretty serious problem with eating sweets compulsively.
It's possible to lose the weight. Is it as easy as just giving up dessert for a week? No. Log your food. Eat your vegetables. Take a walk. I find failure happens when I give up. It's been 15 years since I lost that 80 pounds and I still am mindful about my food and exercise. I still am at my Goal weight, BMI 21-22.10 -
I’ve been working at losing weight for several months. I have about 15 lbs to lose to reach my goal weight. Although my BMI is 24.5%, I feel best at 21-22%.
I’ll keep working at it because what’s the alternative? Do nothing? It’s just frustrating as all heck.2 -
Yeah, mangolady2013, the last 15 is tough.
I lost the first 65 pounds in about eight months. It took me another nine full months to lose that last 15 pounds.
I had to cut way back on carbs, prepare all my own meals, log all my food using my digital food scale, walk nearly every day and I was hungry a lot of the time. I mean, hungry. Many days I just couldn't stick to my calorie goal.
Keepa go. You can do it. There's no Finish Deadline. I got there when I got there.2 -
I have not reached menopause, but I have noticed that weird hormone times definitely affect my calorie needs. I agree with PPs that the last few pounds can be harder to lose and harder to observe because of natural weight fluctuations. If it won't drive you nuts, weighing daily can help you observe the trend down more easily so you don't get discouraged.
I like to increase exercise to keep my calories at a level where I don't feel super super hungry. Walking is a great low impact way to do that, and you can give yourself a small calorie "cushion" that makes things feel more bearable.
If it helps, you can also think about this slow weight loss time as practice for maintenance - a small deficit is not far off from where your needs will be once you reach your goal.0 -
Yeah, a small deficit is really the only way. However, I was only at a 200 calorie per day deficit for that last 15 pounds and I was still very hungry probably half the time. I had lost a lot of weight, and had logged food in Maintenance so I was very sure of my calorie numbers.
I even waited a year post losing that first 65 pounds. I could have just stayed at 155, that was still inside the healthy weight BMI. I just wasn't completely happy with that. 140-145 is where I want to stay.
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Yeah, I’m almost 51. I feel you. Here are a few things that seem to contribute to a steady loss for me:
-I got nerdy with data to get a fairly accurate picture of my TDEE. It took weeks and weeks of near-perfect logging and weigh-ins and I will continue my analysis, but—surprise!—It’s about 100 less than the online calculators. I expected it to be a lot less.
-I am prone to getting stiff hips, which makes me sit around too much. To combat this, I get at least 500 steps an hour. I have a Fitbit and compete in StepBet challenges to keep me on it.
-I started eating breakfast. I don’t know if it matters, but it’s something I’m doing differently. I used to think my low-ish carb 18:6 IF was the ticket, but apparently not because I grew out of my jeans.
-I’m paying more attention to my nutrition percentages in MFP and am always trying to get closer to optimal. I’m also taking a multivitamin and biotin.
-Hydration. This should be at the top. It’s the one thing that has never changed for my whole life. My body just works better when I’m hydrated. And now that I’m older, my skin looks like a leather handbag at Goodwill if I get lax.
-I pretty much stopped drinking alcohol. I’m not here to preach or shame, but I suspect this might be the biggest contributor to me feeling much better at 50 then I did at 45. I will still get wine or a margarita or martini on occasion, but I don’t keep anything in the house.
And sort of a silly thing: In my old neighborhood about 20 years ago, there was a woman in her 50s who was always suited up in athleisurewear and cool sneakers. She walked everywhere, all the time. She was thin and had nice hair and smiled at everyone and petted all the dogs. Everyone knew of her as the “walking lady.”
I want to be the walking lady.
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I'm female, 67, in year 7 of maintaining a 50+ pound weight loss, after losing at age 59-60. I've been in menopause since my mid-40s (chemotherapy brought it early). I'm also severely hypothyroid (but properly medicated). I lost weight fine by using the MFP calorie estimate as a starting point, then adjusting after I had several (4-6) weeks of individual weight loss/calorie logging data. I've maintained a healthy weight for 7+ years since. I didn't use time restricted eating, kept eating the same range of foods (different portion sizes, proportions on the plate, frequencies), didn't materially change my exercise activity (already active).
Metabolism, according to recent research, doesn't change much between our 20s and 60s. The issues are mostly elsewhere. Others mentioned loss of muscle mass, and gradually reduced daily life activity - both of those are very common. Isn't it nice that both of those are things that are within our control, so we can improve them? I admit that muscle mass regain is slow, but there are payoffs in strength pretty rapidly, and that's useful in daily life.
There's a good thread here about strength training options, with a lot of discussion of pros/cons of different programs:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1
Despite the title, it does include bodyweight programs we can do at home with minimal/no equipment, not just weight lifting.
Sometimes women in my demographic worry that they'll "get bulky": Not going to happen without intense, directed effort over a long time period. Female bodybuilders work really hard over long time periods to get their physiques, then diet down to very low body fat so the muscle shows up more. Some take dangerous drugs to get more extreme results. Us normal Janes doing some progressive lifting needn't worry: If we reach a level of muscularity we like, we'll have plenty of time to shift from a muscle-gain to a maintenance program.
How to exercise more is pretty obvious. What some people miss is that exercise needn't be extreme or punitive in order to burn calories or advance fitness. Any added activity burns extra calories, and any activity that mildly, manageably challenges current capabilities will gradually advance our fitness. Find fun ways to move more. That'll work.
Increasing daily life (non-exercise) activity can make a surprising contribution. There's a thread here where lots of MFP-ers share their strategies:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10610953/neat-improvement-strategies-to-improve-weight-loss/p1
Not all those ideas will work in your life, but I'll bet there'd be some in there that would.
One last comment: You ask about what's helpful and sustainable. The latter is where (IMO) many people trip up. Trying to lose weight fast, trying to follow extremely restrictive diets, trying to do unpleasantly intense exercise . . . not sustainable. Moderate weight loss adds up over time, and can get a person to goal weight in less calendar time than extreme measures that trigger compensatory bouts of overeating or make a person give up altogether for chunks of time.
Think about it: Even half a pound a week is 26 pounds a year, a pound a week is 52. The time will pass regardless. Think about how to make weight management relatively easy, instead of super fast. To me, what's ideal is finding new, sustainable, happy habits that not only trigger gradual weight loss, but that I can continue almost on autopilot to stay at a healthy weight long term, preferably for the rest of my life.
Best wishes - you can do this!8 -
Thanks for this post. I’m 50 and in menopause. Can’t believe what terrible things have happened to my body in the last six months. Really need to figure this new normal out before it consumes me. I’ve read a lot in the last few days, and I’ve seen “increase veggies” over and over again.1
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I’m going to be 56 in two days, I have not gained any weight at all in menopause. I will tell you though that I have had to tweak my diet and exercise routine considerably. I can no longer eat like I am 20, 30, or even 40. I eat only unprocessed, whole foods, with no refined carbs such as white bread, white rice or potatoes…absolutely no sugar or alcohol and lots of low fat high protein. I was a life long runner and have found interval training and weight lifting much more conducive to maintaining my weight and same shape. I am 5’7” and 115 pounds.
The biggest key, and I cannot stress this enough is your diet. I have an occasional cheat meal, but for the most part I eat very cleanly and I eat a lot. You’d be surprised how much you can eat when you aren’t putting crackers, cookies, and other junk in Tom your body. Please read labels…sugar and corn syrup are in just about everything and I believe this has contributed to our nation becoming less healthy—not just women in menopause. DM me if you’d like more information. I feel healthy, strong, and not deprived of food. Cheers!2 -
I’m going to be 56 in two days, I have not gained any weight at all in menopause. I will tell you though that I have had to tweak my diet and exercise routine considerably. I can no longer eat like I am 20, 30, or even 40. I eat only unprocessed, whole foods, with no refined carbs such as white bread, white rice or potatoes…absolutely no sugar or alcohol and lots of low fat high protein. I was a life long runner and have found interval training and weight lifting much more conducive to maintaining my weight and same shape. I am 5’7” and 115 pounds.
The biggest key, and I cannot stress this enough is your diet. I have an occasional cheat meal, but for the most part I eat very cleanly and I eat a lot. You’d be surprised how much you can eat when you aren’t putting crackers, cookies, and other junk in Tom your body. Please read labels…sugar and corn syrup are in just about everything and I believe this has contributed to our nation becoming less healthy—not just women in menopause. DM me if you’d like more information. I feel healthy, strong, and not deprived of food. Cheers!
I, for example, eat potatoes, bread, cakes, chocolate, drink alcohol - but all as part of a varied diet. I’m in full peri with a history of hormonal issues but I maintain my weight by sticking to my calorie limits. I personally could not go low carb or cut out sugar as I need them for my training, but I do know others prefer a low carb high fat diet.
We definitely need to get our vitamins in, so eat veggies and fruit, and there is some evidence that women don’t metabolise protein as well once we’ve been through the menopause, so increasing your protein a bit would be sensible.
I did read a study recently (I’ll try to find it and link it) which suggested lower carb diets could help night sweats in menopausal women, but it was in a small sample and again, it had to work for your lifestyle.
I eat well generally and prefer simple home cooked food, but peri can make me feel horrible and kick my *kitten*. There’s no way I’m adding food deprivation to my list of symptoms and a good slab of cake or a buttery baked potato might just get me through the day 😀
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Almost 60 and I think waaaay too many women rely on menopause as an excuse to let everything go to pot. (I see it on other forums that have nothing to do with weight loss, interestingly.)
I think maintaining weight at this age is easier in some respects -- I have TIME to exercise, prep food, log food, look at the trends and wonder about it all. I will not go gently into that dark night if I can help it. Committed exercise and a calorie goal make me feel safer about things -- and I know, there are no safety guarantees in this world, but there you have it.4 -
Original question was whether anyone is doing anything sustainable - yes— weighing everything I can and recording calories here daily and adjusting what I eat as needed to keep at or below maintenance. I lost 79lbs that way. I confess I did also make a major lifestyle change around the same time - I cut way back and then stopped drinking alcohol entirely. That obviously doesn’t account for the bulk of the weight loss but it did make it easier in several respects - I don’t have any drink calories to count, I didn’t get uninhibited in my snacking after having a glass of wine, I sleep way better (hot flashes were worse for me even with a tiny bit of alcohol, and poor sleep somehow ends up in me consuming more calories to have the energy to make it through the day).
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I'm in year 7 of maintaining a 50+ poI’m going to be 56 in two days, I have not gained any weight at all in menopause. I will tell you though that I have had to tweak my diet and exercise routine considerably. I can no longer eat like I am 20, 30, or even 40. I eat only unprocessed, whole foods, with no refined carbs such as white bread, white rice or potatoes…absolutely no sugar or alcohol and lots of low fat high protein. I was a life long runner and have found interval training and weight lifting much more conducive to maintaining my weight and same shape. I am 5’7” and 115 pounds.
The biggest key, and I cannot stress this enough is your diet. I have an occasional cheat meal, but for the most part I eat very cleanly and I eat a lot. You’d be surprised how much you can eat when you aren’t putting crackers, cookies, and other junk in Tom your body. Please read labels…sugar and corn syrup are in just about everything and I believe this has contributed to our nation becoming less healthy—not just women in menopause. DM me if you’d like more information. I feel healthy, strong, and not deprived of food. Cheers!
I'm another who hasn't eliminated bread, rice, potatoes, alcohol, or sugar - though I don't eat boatloads of those - nor would I call myself low fat/high protein. (If I don't get enough fat, my digestive system responds poorly, in fact.) Food choice for best results can be quite individual.
For myself, I do eat protein above USDA RDAs, because recent research suggests that's a good insurance move for people who are active, losing weight, aging, or eating lots of plant protein. (I'm vegetarian, but wouldn't encourage others to be simply for nutritional or weight loss reasons.)
Overall good nutrition is important IMO, and many people do find relatively less processed foods more filling (in contrast to highly refined foods - "processing" is not the devil, but processing out useful nutrients is not IMO a great thing, despite being common).
Despite eating a mix of foods, I lost weight fine in full menopause, at age 59-60, while also severely hypothyroid (properly medicated), and have maintained a healthy weight for 7 years since. By objective metrics, I'm fitter than average for my age (67). IMO, the key things are appropriate calories, good overall nutrition on average, and a reasonable activity schedule (both exercise and daily life stuff).
To the bolded: I'd encourage you to share information here on the thread, where many can benefit, rather than keeping it private - that, even though I'm not quite on your same advice wavelength. I'm sure you wouldn't do this, but the "DM me for more information" approach can make people think of Beachbody coaches, other MLM sellers, and others with something to sell who post that way here so as not to run afoul of Community guidelines. Sharing publicly gives more people an opportunity to benefit, besides.
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