Looking for advice on target calories for weightloss
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yvonnemclean8006
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Hey folks!
I’m struggling to lose weight despite my ‘stats’ showing that I'm in a daily deficit of >1k calories per day. I set this deficit goal to help me lose 2lb pw. I do wonder if I should be eating more given the amount of exercise I’m doing, but if I do that, then my deficit will be less than 1k. I have dropped a few points about me to help.
About me:
• Woman aged 50 (51 in <6months) and in the menopause.
• 60lbs over my ideal weight (I was more, but have been on a diet & exercise regime for a while now)
• Go walking every day with a daily average of >15k steps
• Muscle mass & muscle rate stats good
• My actual BMR (1494) is less than it should be (1619) which I believe tells me that my metabolism is slower than in should be – is that correct?
• Average calories burned per day (using my Garmin smartwatch that tracks my heartrate by the second) is c2300-2500
• Average calories consumed is 1300-1400
Any advice on what my target calorie consumption should be, would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance 😊
I’m struggling to lose weight despite my ‘stats’ showing that I'm in a daily deficit of >1k calories per day. I set this deficit goal to help me lose 2lb pw. I do wonder if I should be eating more given the amount of exercise I’m doing, but if I do that, then my deficit will be less than 1k. I have dropped a few points about me to help.
About me:
• Woman aged 50 (51 in <6months) and in the menopause.
• 60lbs over my ideal weight (I was more, but have been on a diet & exercise regime for a while now)
• Go walking every day with a daily average of >15k steps
• Muscle mass & muscle rate stats good
• My actual BMR (1494) is less than it should be (1619) which I believe tells me that my metabolism is slower than in should be – is that correct?
• Average calories burned per day (using my Garmin smartwatch that tracks my heartrate by the second) is c2300-2500
• Average calories consumed is 1300-1400
Any advice on what my target calorie consumption should be, would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance 😊
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I'm sorry your post is getting lost in all the spam today. Wherever you're getting the number for your BMR, it is at nest a rough estimate, so no, it doesn't mean you have a slow metabolism. Think of it more like a random number spit out by a machine to give you the idea that you know what your BMR is. As far as calories.... if you were in a 1000 calorie deficit (which you almost certainly are not) you would be losing weight. Somewhere in there there are calories that aren't getting tracked. I would take a look at how accurately you're tracking your calories and probably aim for no more than a 500 calorie deficit.2
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I am also 51 and my main exercise is walking, but not as much as you. I average about 1750 calories per day, with an average weight loss of just over a pound per week. I am pretty close to my goal. So yes, your calculations for your target calories seem to track with my experience.
I’d say that the majority of my effort goes into maintaining an accurate food log. 95% of my food is weighed to the gram. (The other 5% is estimated because of dinners out, etc.)2 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »I'm sorry your post is getting lost in all the spam today. Wherever you're getting the number for your BMR, it is at nest a rough estimate, so no, it doesn't mean you have a slow metabolism. Think of it more like a random number spit out by a machine to give you the idea that you know what your BMR is. As far as calories.... if you were in a 1000 calorie deficit (which you almost certainly are not) you would be losing weight. Somewhere in there there are calories that aren't getting tracked. I would take a look at how accurately you're tracking your calories and probably aim for no more than a 500 calorie deficit.
Everything I eat/drink is measured/weighed and added to MFP. I am losing - very very slowly but not at a rate of 2lb PW which I would expect as my calories consumed is always at least 1k less than cals burned0 -
Ok, you'll figure it out then. Sometimes you just need to figure it out on your own to come to your own conclusions. Best of luck.2
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OP, to directly answer your question: With the info you’ve presented, you are correct that that 1300-1400 would be the target calories if you burn 2300-2400 calories per day and want to lose 2 pounds per week.
What you might actually be asking is why you are not losing 2 pounds per week. Reasons could be:
-You are not actually burning 2300-2400 calories per day.
-You are eating more than 1300-1400 calories per day.
Really, those are the only possibilities. Would you mind sharing how much you ARE losing per week? And for how long? And when did it slow down?
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Rockmama1111 wrote: »OP, to directly answer your question: With the info you’ve presented, you are correct that that 1300-1400 would be the target calories if you burn 2300-2400 calories per day and want to lose 2 pounds per week.
What you might actually be asking is why you are not losing 2 pounds per week. Reasons could be:
-You are not actually burning 2300-2400 calories per day.
-You are eating more than 1300-1400 calories per day.
Really, those are the only possibilities. Would you mind sharing how much you ARE losing per week? And for how long? And when did it slow down?
I've been averaging just 1.2 LBS pw for several months now. I'm definitely not going over on the cals consumed as everything is tracked to the gram. I just thought maybe I'm not eating enough calories
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yvonnemclean8006 wrote: »Rockmama1111 wrote: »OP, to directly answer your question: With the info you’ve presented, you are correct that that 1300-1400 would be the target calories if you burn 2300-2400 calories per day and want to lose 2 pounds per week.
What you might actually be asking is why you are not losing 2 pounds per week. Reasons could be:
-You are not actually burning 2300-2400 calories per day.
-You are eating more than 1300-1400 calories per day.
Really, those are the only possibilities. Would you mind sharing how much you ARE losing per week? And for how long? And when did it slow down?
I've been averaging just 1.2 LBS pw for several months now. I'm definitely not going over on the cals consumed as everything is tracked to the gram. I just thought maybe I'm not eating enough calories
Eating too little doesn't stop weight loss. If it did, no one would ever starve to death. Sadly, thousands of people worldwide do starve to death, and they don't have high bodyfat when it happens. There is not some "starvation mode" thing that stops weight loss at appropriately (sensibly) reduced calories, just for fortunate developed-world people who choose to eat less than maintenance calories.
What can happen: You can add some water weight gradually from the stress of aggressive or lengthy weight loss, and that can mask fat loss on the scale for a surprisingly long time in some cases. Or, you can get fatigue and even a bit of down-regulation (slower hair growth, feeling cold, etc.) from too severe or too lengthy a calorie cut, so lose slower than expected.
You might get some useful information out of one or all of these threads:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1077746/starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10604863/of-refeeds-and-diet-breaks/p1
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10683010/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-fluctuations/p13 -
How long have you been tracking, and what has your weight change been in that time period? If you've been logging calories in and walking at this pace for 4-8+ weeks, do you weigh less now than a month ago? I'm not sure from your post if you are not losing weight, not happy about the rate of loss, or if you've just gotten started.0
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Diet and exercise regiment for a while... what is the timeline of "a while"?
Congrats on the loss so far. Sounds to me that you're doing great.
And 1.2lbs a week sounds solidly in the 0.5% to 1% of body-weight loss per week range.
I use gadgets. I love gadgets. But we're not "due" results. All our gadgets operate on statistical averages. And they don't detect caloric burns. They detect movement and acceleration and heartbeats.
But heartbeats don't burn calories. They're just an imperfect but adequate proxy for when people are burning calories faster or slower. What your device does at the end of the day is build a model that estimates how active you were on average and decides your caloric burn by multiplying your estimated BMR by an activity factor. If your BMR is truly lower than expected, and with an apparent activity factor of 1.54 or so (which comes close to the activity factor of 1.6 that would have been my guess based solely on your 15K steps), we've just found 190 out of your 400 missing Calories.
Personally I would NOT be worrying about my speed of loss. If you're starting to feel diet fatigue and not seeing sufficient pay-out (which I believe is what I'm hearing as a sub-text or even unrecognized possibility), the answer that *I* would look for would not be along the lines of "how do I increase my rate of loss to receive a correspondingly worthwhile pay out". I would suggest instead that you may want to seek sustainability that will also help you eventually in maintenance. Making things a bit easier for you by not worrying about the specific rate of loss, and starting to evaluate which of the things you're currently doing you will STILL be doing in five years. Basically look at what you're doing today. Are you willing to be doing all this for the next five years? Start shaping the next five years now!2 -
If you’re convinced that you’re weighing and accurately logging then maybe it’s an issue with the entries that you’re choosing? Perhaps opening your diary and inviting comments may help? If not, then probably it’s the calorie burn estimate that’s off.0
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Sorry… thinking on… with BMR at 1494 and estimated burn 2399-2500 that would be maybe 800+ calories for your walking. I think that’s excessive and could be worth looking into in more detail. I know 17,000 is a lot, but this could be the piece of the puzzle that doesn’t fit.1
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I'm about in the same situation as you, I am 52. I have recently read that often once we hit menopause our cortisol and leptin levels rise as a result of the loss of estrogen and often this leads to slowing of the metabolism.0
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NitaToupin wrote: »I'm about in the same situation as you, I am 52. I have recently read that often once we hit menopause our cortisol and leptin levels rise as a result of the loss of estrogen and often this leads to slowing of the metabolism.
The bad news is our metabolism doesn’t slow down (recent studies show metabolism doesn’t slow down until after 60 - and then by a tiny amount), but the changing hormones in peri and full menopause can influence where we store our fat (more likely to go on our waist, sadly). I think it’s mentally harder to lose weight in peri / full
Menopause as we get less good sleep, emotions can be all over the place, maybe we’re too tired to exercise or even be as active during our normal days. But there are plenty of inspirational ladies on here who lost a LOT of weight during that time - and kept it off. It can be done, it’s not always easy, but it is possible.3 -
claireychn074 wrote: »NitaToupin wrote: »I'm about in the same situation as you, I am 52. I have recently read that often once we hit menopause our cortisol and leptin levels rise as a result of the loss of estrogen and often this leads to slowing of the metabolism.
The bad news is our metabolism doesn’t slow down (recent studies show metabolism doesn’t slow down until after 60 - and then by a tiny amount), but the changing hormones in peri and full menopause can influence where we store our fat (more likely to go on our waist, sadly). I think it’s mentally harder to lose weight in peri / full
Menopause as we get less good sleep, emotions can be all over the place, maybe we’re too tired to exercise or even be as active during our normal days. But there are plenty of inspirational ladies on here who lost a LOT of weight during that time - and kept it off. It can be done, it’s not always easy, but it is possible.
Can I be a witness? Yes!
There's some limited research suggesting that strength training can help with the fat deposition issue (i.e. where it lands, not whether it exists), but it's IMO non-definitive.
Actual metabolic decline from age is late and pretty minor even after 60. What does happen is that we lose muscle mass as we age, if we don't work at keeping it, and our life routines tend to become less active. (My job, transportation, home chores, social life and hobbies at 20 were much more physical than they are now, at 67!).
Lower muscle mass does lower metabolism a little, but the direct effect is just a handful of calories. However, less muscle mass makes it less easy and fun to move, so we can move less as a consequence, and burn fewer calories that way. That's a subtle shift over decades, potentially, but can add up to literally hundreds of calories per day. (Even being fidgety vs. not fidgety has been estimated to create up to low hundreds of calories difference between otherwise similar people . . . not that I'm encouraging people to twitch!)
Another thing that's been common among women my age (67) is a dieting history that includes too little protein, whether dieting (lots of salads/veggies) or maintaining/gaining (heavier carbs and fats, still moderate to low protein). That's not universal, of course. On top of that, many women my age would hit the cardio hard when dieting (because they thought weight training would make them "bulky"), and not do much exercise at all when not trying to lose. Again, not universal, but common in my social circle. And it's a recipe for muscle-mass loss: Lose it through extreme calorie cuts + little protein + no strength training when dieting, lose it through inactivity and low protein the rest of the time.
All of these are things we can influence, including post-menopausally: Avoid super-low calories, prefer moderate weight loss. Eat nutritiously, including adequate protein. Challenge muscles via strength exercise of some type. Work at increasing daily life movement (not twitching!but moving more - all of that "park at the end of the parking lot, take the stairs" kind of thing, plus exercise, of course).
IMO, there's no point in focusing on a unchangeable factor that's an obstacle to our goals, such as menopause . . . except to figure out how to get over, around, under, through or otherwise past the obstacle. There are some unchangeable things, menopause is one . . . but its effects on weight loss do have counter-strategies that can work.
Me? Yeah. I went into menopause as a side effect of chemotherapy in my mid-40s. I stayed overweight to class 1 obese for around 30 years, including that phase, and the same even after becoming athletically active post-treatment. I joined MFP in 2015 at 59, long in menopause, lost from class 1 obese to a healthy weight in just under a year, and have been at a healthy weight since, now age 67.3
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