Carbs - fiber divided by 5
chill2525
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My trainer gave me the following formula:
Total Carbs
Minus Fiber
Divided by 5
=tsps sugar
I put the formula in and ended up reading about it on MFP.
In 3 weeks I lost 10# without even trying by keeping to 12 teaspoons.
I know it works but can someone give me where the research came from for this formula.
Total Carbs
Minus Fiber
Divided by 5
=tsps sugar
I put the formula in and ended up reading about it on MFP.
In 3 weeks I lost 10# without even trying by keeping to 12 teaspoons.
I know it works but can someone give me where the research came from for this formula.
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That one is new to me.
Fat weight loss happens when you are in a calorie deficit. There are many ways for a person to mathematically or programmatically get there but it always comes back to eating less food than you burn.
I would keep in mind that some of your initial loss may be water weight loss because your formula seems to be a recipe for low carb. Water weight comes and goes so you may see a slight rebound of weight or a masking of losses for awhile if you maintain a calorie deficit.
I suggest reading this:
http://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations/
It will help you understand scale weight fluctuations.
I hope someone can answer your question.5 -
You’re simply cutting carbs and ending up in a calorie deficit, hence the weight loss. There’s no magic formula.12
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You're reducing added sugars which makes you conscious of calorie dense treats you may have been consuming.
If you are replacing non satiating high caloric treats with more satiating for the calories nutritionally dense options you may be ending up creating a deficit and losing some weight.
Depending on your goals this may or may not be enough.
All your "trainer" is doing is trying to reduce sugars to 1/5 of your total carbs.
The reasoning or logic escapes me as they seem to consider blueberries just as evil as potatoes or honey which they consider, in turn, as evil as cake or yogurt, all items that have some carbs and sugars in them (though I would have to look up on their exact ratios)
To lose weight it really does not matter one whit where the calories are coming from: cake, potatoes, frogs, or turds! All that matters is absorbing less calories in total and over a long enough time period than you spend.
For health, satisfaction, satiety, and long term compliance a variety of foods not all of them "healthy" and not all of them "junk" would probably serve best.7 -
5 grams sugar is 1 teaspoon. You trainer is telling you to divide your net carbs by 5 to see how many teaspoons of sugar you have in your diet. This is not a helpful way of managing sugar, as your 60 grams net carbs could very easily be naturally occurring in your food.
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Here is some interesting information based on that Hidden Sugar formula.
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Here is some interesting information based on that Hidden Sugar formula.
A little information is dangerous, applies here.
The body will maintain a certain amount of blood sugar whether you eat sugar or not and a far as monitoring the dreaded excess of 1.5 tsp in the blood at any given time or we get diabetes is controlled by the pancreases Beta cells producing insulin, amazing I know but true. Sugar is stored in adipose, our body fat, only if we exceed our TDEE and only then. None of this has anything to do with weight loss per se and only when we're in a caloric deficit will weight loss happen and not magically when we've implemented this application. Cheers.3 -
Here is some interesting information based on that Hidden Sugar formula.
Echoing what Neanderthin said: In a context where we don't consume excess calories - fat is not not going to be stored. (The guy who did the Twinkie Diet lost weight, and ate plenty of sugar. Improved his health markers, such as blood test results, too.)
On top of that, if we do consume excess calories, a normal body will tend to prefer storing fat we consume as body fat, because it's more efficient (requires less complicated, inefficient biochemistry to convert/store). De novo lipogenesis (creation of body fat from carb intake, for example) is rare, non-preferred, because inefficient.
Personal experience: I exceeded MFP's default total-sugars goal every day while losing weight, and lost weight from obese to a healthy weight just fine - faster than ideal for a while, in fact.
And guess what else happened? My high blood pressure became normal, my high cholesterol became normal, my cardiovascular risk score went way, way down . . . and all of that has stayed solidly normal for 7+ years now at a healthy weight, while still going over the default total-sugars goal daily.
I wish people would post the source of infographics they decide to share here. I don't know, maybe the PP is the source him/herself. But it's not nice to steal sites' intellectual property without crediting them . . . or blaming them, as appropriate.
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Your trainer sounds like one that tries to sound like they have some secret methods in order to make you want to keep coming back that in reality is just noise. I see this all the time. Some of the things are downright comical
There is a simpler formula:
Take in fewer calories than you burn and you'll lose weight.10 -
I am trying to read the above and see if it actually says anything and I can't actually figure out that it says anything that is actionable. I'm supposed to get something out of it, right?... great. I mean it has a formula (math is important and all that) but nothing is said about ACTUAL time frames or timelines... so like... the thing says nothing!
I mean I can conclude that maybe I'm supposed to imagine that it actually says that I'm not supposed to eat more than 1g of sugar per the formula "at any one time" but I am not sure what the time is. And it doesn't say anything about what happens when I sleep. Because when I sleep I am sleeping and not eating sugar. Could magic happen when I sleep or will my sugar be sugaring while I'm dreaming?!?!
But I can prove it wrong! Yes I can! Yes yes yes! I have 365 days of data!
I have -72.5lbs in the 365 days. The magic formula says (282-35) / 5 = 49.4 which I'm fairly sure is more than 1 or 1.5 or even two! So I must have lost weight because I was in a diabetic coma! BUT I averaged over 18,000 steps a day! In a KITTEN COMA! WOW!
Well, either that or I am a really really sweat person!
The quantity of fig bars I ate today argues I'm really sweat.... but based on what the Dr Said... fig bars must cause hernias cause I need surgery for one... oh wait.. this made as much sense as the above formula.
Bye bye trainer.7 -
I am trying to read the above and see if it actually says anything and I can't actually figure out that it says anything that is actionable. I'm supposed to get something out of it, right?... great. I mean it has a formula (math is important and all that) but nothing is said about ACTUAL time frames or timelines... so like... the thing says nothing!
I mean I can conclude that maybe I'm supposed to imagine that it actually says that I'm not supposed to eat more than 1g of sugar per the formula "at any one time" but I am not sure what the time is. And it doesn't say anything about what happens when I sleep. Because when I sleep I am sleeping and not eating sugar. Could magic happen when I sleep or will my sugar be sugaring while I'm dreaming?!?!
But I can prove it wrong! Yes I can! Yes yes yes! I have 365 days of data!
I have -72.5lbs in the 365 days. The magic formula says (282-35) / 5 = 49.4 which I'm fairly sure is more than 1 or 1.5 or even two! So I must have lost weight because I was in a diabetic coma! BUT I averaged over 18,000 steps a day! In a KITTEN COMA! WOW!
Well, either that or I am a really really sweat person!
The quantity of fig bars I ate today argues I'm really sweat.... but based on what the Dr Said... fig bars must cause hernias cause I need surgery for one... oh wait.. this made as much sense as the above formula.
Bye bye trainer.
Hahaha, I missed this post, made me laugh. cheers.
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I am trying to read the above and see if it actually says anything and I can't actually figure out that it says anything that is actionable. I'm supposed to get something out of it, right?... great. I mean it has a formula (math is important and all that) but nothing is said about ACTUAL time frames or timelines... so like... the thing says nothing!
I mean I can conclude that maybe I'm supposed to imagine that it actually says that I'm not supposed to eat more than 1g of sugar per the formula "at any one time" but I am not sure what the time is. And it doesn't say anything about what happens when I sleep. Because when I sleep I am sleeping and not eating sugar. Could magic happen when I sleep or will my sugar be sugaring while I'm dreaming?!?!
But I can prove it wrong! Yes I can! Yes yes yes! I have 365 days of data!
I have -72.5lbs in the 365 days. The magic formula says (282-35) / 5 = 49.4 which I'm fairly sure is more than 1 or 1.5 or even two! So I must have lost weight because I was in a diabetic coma! BUT I averaged over 18,000 steps a day! In a KITTEN COMA! WOW!
Well, either that or I am a really really sweat person!
The quantity of fig bars I ate today argues I'm really sweat.... but based on what the Dr Said... fig bars must cause hernias cause I need surgery for one... oh wait.. this made as much sense as the above formula.
Bye bye trainer.
Can I please eat/drink/smoke what you had? 🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant1 -
did people notice that the OP asked this question 3 years ago?
Maybe you all did and it is a discussion still worth having without OP, I dont know.
If so, ignore me and carry on
I'm not a person who tracks things in such a mathematical or detailed way myself0 -
Nope. And neither did I see my 2019 post. Which makes me wonder whether we only had partial visibility at some point?1
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