Calorie question
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I'm on a 1200 calorie/day plan, and that works perfect for me. My question is, when my calories are set at 1200, but then I burn say 200 a day, that takes my allotted calories upto 1400/day. Do I have to eat all of these calories? Or should I just always aim for my 1200? I'm perfectly content on the 1200 a day, but I just want to make sure I'm eating enough as well. My calories burned varies from day-to-day.
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I'm on a 1200 calorie/day plan, and that works perfect for me. My question is, when my calories are set at 1200, but then I burn say 200 a day, that takes my allotted calories upto 1400/day. Do I have to eat all of these calories? Or should I just always aim for my 1200? I'm perfectly content on the 1200 a day, but I just want to make sure I'm eating enough as well. My calories burned varies from day-to-day.0
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Well to lose weight you need to eat less calories than you burn so it depends on whether or not you are looking to lose weight. Stay at 1200 a day if you want to lose weight but if you do not, try and eat those extra 200cals.0
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I definitely want to lose weight! I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't doing more harm than good by not consuming all of the ones I "earn" from burning! Thanks a lot!0
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My doctor laughed when I asked him if I should eat them back.Hesaid why would you eat back what your burnt off.you are trying to lose weight .Hope this helps consult with your doc.0
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MFP builds in an automatic 500 cal deficiet that's why they say to eat back the exercise calories.
There are some good posts about it at the top of the General Diet & Weightloss.
Not everyone eats their exercise calories, some eat part. If after a few weeks you aren't losing you might try to eat them. Sometimes eating to little is just as bad as eating to many.0 -
Thanks for the info! I aim to eat the 1200 a day, and I do. I usually eat back some of the ones I "earn" as well, just not all of them.0
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this is something that is debated constantly on this site. it pretty much boils down to three ideas
1) yes, you should them
2) eat them if you can, not a big deal if you don't
3) don't touch them
the way the site is set up, your supposed to eat them. your daily calorie allowance is set up already with a 500 calorie deficit per day allowing you to lose 1 pound per week. if you don't eat what you burn back, then you are increasing your deficit. be careful if you net falls below 1200 because that is hovering the starvation danger zone.
people on this site have found success eating and not eating the exercise calories. maybe try one and see how it works?aisha
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The reason you are supposed to eat them is as follows:
MFP ALREADY has you at a deficit, even befor eyou exercise. I weigh 146lbs. If I want to maintain this weight I need to eat 1800 calories a day. I I exercise, and burn 200 cals, I then also need to ead those calories, so that I won't lose weight. Since I am TRYING to lose weight, MFP place me at 1400, I have a deficit of 400 calories. If I exercise and burn 200 calories, I am making my deficit larger, which can be dangerous, depending on just how large it becomes. Therefore, I will eat those 200 calories back, keeping my deficit as set by MFP.
1200 net calories is the absolute lowest amount a woman can consistently eat in a day WITHOUT STARVING TO DEATH. That means if you eat 1200 calories a day and then burn an extra 200 with exercise you are actually at 1000net calories, which is unarguably starvation level- which will slow your metabolism making weight loss very difficult. Not to mention over long periods of time you can LITERALLY STARVE TO DEATH.
I don't really get the big debate and I'm not sure what some above answers are getting at but trust me, if you want to lose weight, be healthy, and have the best possible chance of keeping the weight off - eat back your exercise calories.0 -
My doctor laughed when I asked him if I should eat them back.Hesaid why would you eat back what your burnt off.you are trying to lose weight .Hope this helps consult with your doc.
did you tell him you were already at a deficit before you worked out?0 -
I'm on a 1200 calorie/day plan, and that works perfect for me. My question is, when my calories are set at 1200, but then I burn say 200 a day, that takes my allotted calories upto 1400/day. Do I have to eat all of these calories? Or should I just always aim for my 1200? I'm perfectly content on the 1200 a day, but I just want to make sure I'm eating enough as well. My calories burned varies from day-to-day.0
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My doctor laughed when I asked him if I should eat them back.Hesaid why would you eat back what your burnt off.you are trying to lose weight .Hope this helps consult with your doc.
did you tell him you were already at a deficit before you worked out?0 -
If you don't eat your exercise calories then you are going to mess with your metabolism and your body will go into stravation mode and you won't lose as quickly as you want, or at all.0
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Your weight is a balancing act, but the equation is simple: If you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Gaining and losing weight (W) comes down to the simple calculation of calories consumed (CC), or in other words, what you eat, minus calories burned (CB) through metabolism and physical activity.
W = CC – CB
If you eat more calories than you burn then you gain weight or if you eat fewer calories than you burn then you lose weight. In order to lose one pound of fat per week, you need to eat about 500 calories less than your typical diet. Since 3,500 calories equals about 1 pound of fat, if you cut 500 calories from your typical diet each day, you'd lose approximately 1 pound a week (500 calories x 7 days = 3,500 calories). Remember, you need to burn 3,500 calories more than you take in to lose 1 pound.
This does not mean that you need to eat less food. Instead, you need to consume fewer calories. With smart choices this is very doable. The key is to choose “low density” foods, which means foods that allow you to eat a larger portion sizes but that is lower in calories. These foods, including many fruits and vegetables, tend to contain more water and fiber. Try starting your meal with a low-density salad or soup (just watch the dressings and sodium) to help fill you up, so you eat less of your entrée.0 -
Your weight is a balancing act, but the equation is simple: If you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Gaining and losing weight (W) comes down to the simple calculation of calories consumed (CC), or in other words, what you eat, minus calories burned (CB) through metabolism and physical activity.
W = CC – CB
If you eat more calories than you burn then you gain weight or if you eat fewer calories than you burn then you lose weight. In order to lose one pound of fat per week, you need to eat about 500 calories less than your typical diet. Since 3,500 calories equals about 1 pound of fat, if you cut 500 calories from your typical diet each day, you'd lose approximately 1 pound a week (500 calories x 7 days = 3,500 calories). Remember, you need to burn 3,500 calories more than you take in to lose 1 pound.
This does not mean that you need to eat less food. Instead, you need to consume fewer calories. With smart choices this is very doable. The key is to choose “low density” foods, which means foods that allow you to eat a larger portion sizes but that is lower in calories. These foods, including many fruits and vegetables, tend to contain more water and fiber. Try starting your meal with a low-density salad or soup (just watch the dressings and sodium) to help fill you up, so you eat less of your entrée.
With all do respect hun, your doctor told you things that are intended for you ONLY. With the amount of weight you need to lose and the fact that you are under a doctor's care, I'm not going to argue with his decisions. But in general everyone else should be eating their extra calories. Don't forget, it's not just, or even mostly about what you burn in the gym, it's also about what your body does on it's own on a daily basis. Your body is constantly burning calories by digesting, breathing, thinking, blinking, standing, coughing, doing dishes, washing your hands and so on and so on. You need to make sure you're giving your body enough calories to live on. If you eat just 1200 calories a day and do not have the large fat reserves of an obese individual to draw from, you are, very simply put, starving your body.0 -
The way I see it, if you're content eating your 1200 calories a day, then do that. When I did Weight Watchers (it worked, but I got sick of counting points and paying the $), they said I HAD to eat ALL my points every single day or I wouldn't lose weight. There would be lots of time I wouldn't consume all my points, and I still lost weight for the week. As long as you're making healthy food choices and sticking to a workout regimen, you should be fine.0
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I increased my cals to 1500, eat most of my exercise cals and am finally starting to lose again. If you are a more active person, eat more! It's a hard concept to get, but your body needs fuel. You don't want it taking it from your muscles! The more muscles you make, the more they burn. Simple concept. 1200 to me is too low. The body will steal from the muscles to give you energy, therefore less muscles-poorer calorie burning.Kapeesh?:flowerforyou:0
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My doctor laughed when I asked him if I should eat them back.Hesaid why would you eat back what your burnt off.you are trying to lose weight .Hope this helps consult with your doc.
did you tell him you were already at a deficit before you worked out?
then I question your doctors expertise on the subject. If I were you, and my doctor gave me that kind of set in stone advice, I would go see a registered dietitian to have a second opinion. Remember, GP doctors are generalists. Very few of them get any nutritional training (it's not in most med school curriculum's and most doctors don't go and get training after). There are a plethora of studies out there that poll doctors on their nutritional knowledge. You'd be shocked at how poorly doctors fair.
Not saying your doctor doesn't have the training or that he's wrong, but I would at least ask him what his nutritional training is.0 -
My doctor laughed when I asked him if I should eat them back.Hesaid why would you eat back what your burnt off.you are trying to lose weight .Hope this helps consult with your doc.
did you tell him you were already at a deficit before you worked out?
then I question your doctors expertise on the subject. If I were you, and my doctor gave me that kind of set in stone advice, I would go see a registered dietitian to have a second opinion. Remember, GP doctors are generalists. Very few of them get any nutritional training (it's not in most med school curriculum's and most doctors don't go and get training after). There are a plethora of studies out there that poll doctors on their nutritional knowledge. You'd be shocked at how poorly doctors fair.
Not saying your doctor doesn't have the training or that he's wrong, but I would at least ask him what his nutritional training is.0 -
My doctor laughed when I asked him if I should eat them back.Hesaid why would you eat back what your burnt off.you are trying to lose weight .Hope this helps consult with your doc.
did you tell him you were already at a deficit before you worked out?
then I question your doctors expertise on the subject. If I were you, and my doctor gave me that kind of set in stone advice, I would go see a registered dietitian to have a second opinion. Remember, GP doctors are generalists. Very few of them get any nutritional training (it's not in most med school curriculum's and most doctors don't go and get training after). There are a plethora of studies out there that poll doctors on their nutritional knowledge. You'd be shocked at how poorly doctors fair.
Not saying your doctor doesn't have the training or that he's wrong, but I would at least ask him what his nutritional training is.
myastme,
I don't claim to be a registered dietician, nor a doctor. But I questioned my own doctor (I was about to put his name up, and his practice, but then I realized that, that might be unethical of me.) when he tried to talk to me and gave me bad nutritional advice. That's what prompted me to look up the statistics on doctors and nutrition.
That being said, I didn't put anyone down, I didn't even say the plan was wrong, all I said was it sounded a little set in stone to me, and that it might be a good idea to confirm that her doctor had the knowledge about the topic. What is the bad side of that? What works for you works for you, that's fine, I don't begrudge you that, but if someone posts in a public forum, I don't think it's wrong of me to post back in a polite, and respectful manner. Do you? Explain to me what I said that was wrong. And yes, I always question medical advice from my GP. As everyone should. Doctors these days are extremely busy and make mistakes all the time. My wife had to see 3 doctors and have 2 wrong opinions before she went to a specialist that diagnosed her with arthritis in her back. Our GP said it was a strain, refused to get an MRI for her (even though she requested it), and wanted to give her a cortisone shot.0 -
fyi, the introduction to this study tells a story all by it self.
less than 50% of family practice doctors receive any nutrition curriculum.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/58/3/3190 -
another article giving the statistics and facts of how physicians fair with regards to nutrition.
http://www.beyondveg.com/novick-j/nutrition-education/physicians-3.shtml0 -
Some years ago I wa a program coordinator for a large county health department, I set up prenatal and STD clinics. Part of my duties was to hire the MD's to staff the clinics. I became very aware of how little if any specialized training general MD's actually receive. It was actually appallling how "general" their education actually was.
I would not let the MD's spout nutrition or any information that they could not back up. Most of them agreed. Those that didn't I replaced.
I question pretty much everything and because someone is an MD means something but not everything.0 -
Your weight is a balancing act, but the equation is simple: If you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Gaining and losing weight (W) comes down to the simple calculation of calories consumed (CC), or in other words, what you eat, minus calories burned (CB) through metabolism and physical activity.
W = CC – CB
If you eat more calories than you burn then you gain weight or if you eat fewer calories than you burn then you lose weight. In order to lose one pound of fat per week, you need to eat about 500 calories less than your typical diet. Since 3,500 calories equals about 1 pound of fat, if you cut 500 calories from your typical diet each day, you'd lose approximately 1 pound a week (500 calories x 7 days = 3,500 calories). Remember, you need to burn 3,500 calories more than you take in to lose 1 pound.
This does not mean that you need to eat less food. Instead, you need to consume fewer calories. With smart choices this is very doable. The key is to choose “low density” foods, which means foods that allow you to eat a larger portion sizes but that is lower in calories. These foods, including many fruits and vegetables, tend to contain more water and fiber. Try starting your meal with a low-density salad or soup (just watch the dressings and sodium) to help fill you up, so you eat less of your entrée.
With all do respect hun, your doctor told you things that are intended for you ONLY. With the amount of weight you need to lose and the fact that you are under a doctor's care, I'm not going to argue with his decisions. But in general everyone else should be eating their extra calories. Don't forget, it's not just, or even mostly about what you burn in the gym, it's also about what your body does on it's own on a daily basis. Your body is constantly burning calories by digesting, breathing, thinking, blinking, standing, coughing, doing dishes, washing your hands and so on and so on. You need to make sure you're giving your body enough calories to live on. If you eat just 1200 calories a day and do not have the large fat reserves of an obese individual to draw from, you are, very simply put, starving your body.0 -
Your weight is a balancing act, but the equation is simple: If you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Gaining and losing weight (W) comes down to the simple calculation of calories consumed (CC), or in other words, what you eat, minus calories burned (CB) through metabolism and physical activity.
W = CC – CB
If you eat more calories than you burn then you gain weight or if you eat fewer calories than you burn then you lose weight. In order to lose one pound of fat per week, you need to eat about 500 calories less than your typical diet. Since 3,500 calories equals about 1 pound of fat, if you cut 500 calories from your typical diet each day, you'd lose approximately 1 pound a week (500 calories x 7 days = 3,500 calories). Remember, you need to burn 3,500 calories more than you take in to lose 1 pound.
This does not mean that you need to eat less food. Instead, you need to consume fewer calories. With smart choices this is very doable. The key is to choose “low density” foods, which means foods that allow you to eat a larger portion sizes but that is lower in calories. These foods, including many fruits and vegetables, tend to contain more water and fiber. Try starting your meal with a low-density salad or soup (just watch the dressings and sodium) to help fill you up, so you eat less of your entrée.
With all do respect hun, your doctor told you things that are intended for you ONLY. With the amount of weight you need to lose and the fact that you are under a doctor's care, I'm not going to argue with his decisions. But in general everyone else should be eating their extra calories. Don't forget, it's not just, or even mostly about what you burn in the gym, it's also about what your body does on it's own on a daily basis. Your body is constantly burning calories by digesting, breathing, thinking, blinking, standing, coughing, doing dishes, washing your hands and so on and so on. You need to make sure you're giving your body enough calories to live on. If you eat just 1200 calories a day and do not have the large fat reserves of an obese individual to draw from, you are, very simply put, starving your body.
of course you should offer advice, but when someone says "my doctor laughed when I asked him about eating my exercise calories" (or something to that effect, I can't remember exactly and I am too lazy to go back and check, lol) it does come off as an overall statement to the effect of eating exercise cals being futile, which it is not. To say instead "under my doctor's care, I have been instructed not to eat those extra calories, because I have a lot to lose" would be more accurate and appropriate. I'm not picking on anyone, and I'm not singling you out when I say this, but I have noticed this on the boards A LOT, and I think what a lot of people don't realize is when someone new to this is outright told that a doctor said not to eat them, they honestly don't understand that that means THAT PERSON shouldn't, they think that means nobody should. Many people don't understand the different nutritional needs of someone who needs to lose 10 or 20 lbs, versus someone who needs to lose 100 or 150 lbs. Do you see what I mean? OF COURSE there is a difference between them, I know that, you know that, but when simple comments are made and not really explained, newer members who havn't gained that knowledge yet, take them at face value and that can be dangerous for them.
Again, I was responding to your post but I'm talking about a whole host of posts I've read recently, not just yours. I think it's really really important to put information out there, and to make sure it's understood, in the correct context.0 -
Your weight is a balancing act, but the equation is simple: If you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. Gaining and losing weight (W) comes down to the simple calculation of calories consumed (CC), or in other words, what you eat, minus calories burned (CB) through metabolism and physical activity.
W = CC – CB
If you eat more calories than you burn then you gain weight or if you eat fewer calories than you burn then you lose weight. In order to lose one pound of fat per week, you need to eat about 500 calories less than your typical diet. Since 3,500 calories equals about 1 pound of fat, if you cut 500 calories from your typical diet each day, you'd lose approximately 1 pound a week (500 calories x 7 days = 3,500 calories). Remember, you need to burn 3,500 calories more than you take in to lose 1 pound.
This does not mean that you need to eat less food. Instead, you need to consume fewer calories. With smart choices this is very doable. The key is to choose “low density” foods, which means foods that allow you to eat a larger portion sizes but that is lower in calories. These foods, including many fruits and vegetables, tend to contain more water and fiber. Try starting your meal with a low-density salad or soup (just watch the dressings and sodium) to help fill you up, so you eat less of your entrée.
With all do respect hun, your doctor told you things that are intended for you ONLY. With the amount of weight you need to lose and the fact that you are under a doctor's care, I'm not going to argue with his decisions. But in general everyone else should be eating their extra calories. Don't forget, it's not just, or even mostly about what you burn in the gym, it's also about what your body does on it's own on a daily basis. Your body is constantly burning calories by digesting, breathing, thinking, blinking, standing, coughing, doing dishes, washing your hands and so on and so on. You need to make sure you're giving your body enough calories to live on. If you eat just 1200 calories a day and do not have the large fat reserves of an obese individual to draw from, you are, very simply put, starving your body.
of course you should offer advice, but when someone says "my doctor laughed when I asked him about eating my exercise calories" (or something to that effect, I can't remember exactly and I am too lazy to go back and check, lol) it does come off as an overall statement to the effect of eating exercise cals being futile, which it is not. To say instead "under my doctor's care, I have been instructed not to eat those extra calories, because I have a lot to lose" would be more accurate and appropriate. I'm not picking on anyone, and I'm not singling you out when I say this, but I have noticed this on the boards A LOT, and I think what a lot of people don't realize is when someone new to this is outright told that a doctor said not to eat them, they honestly don't understand that that means THAT PERSON shouldn't, they think that means nobody should. Many people don't understand the different nutritional needs of someone who needs to lose 10 or 20 lbs, versus someone who needs to lose 100 or 150 lbs. Do you see what I mean? OF COURSE there is a difference between them, I know that, you know that, but when simple comments are made and not really explained, newer members who havn't gained that knowledge yet, take them at face value and that can be dangerous for them.
Again, I was responding to your post but I'm talking about a whole host of posts I've read recently, not just yours. I think it's really really important to put information out there, and to make sure it's understood, in the correct context.0 -
I guess I should have said this in the beginning, but I AM under a doctors care through all of this!! She put me on a 1200 cal/diet to begin with, but I had never heard of eating your exercise calories until I came here. I was also unaware of the deficit. I have also seen a nutritionist and she agrees with a 1200 cal diet, but it was never mentioned that eating (or not eating) the earned calories. I'm sorry this post caused such a big ado!0
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I guess I should have said this in the beginning, but I AM under a doctors care through all of this!! She put me on a 1200 cal/diet to begin with, but I had never heard of eating your exercise calories until I came here. I was also unaware of the deficit. I have also seen a nutritionist and she agrees with a 1200 cal diet, but it was never mentioned that eating (or not eating) the earned calories. I'm sorry this post caused such a big ado!
don't worry a whit about the ado....it is normal debate here,....hope you got some insight and not more confusion
good luck
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Hate to say it, but I agree with you Banks. And I'm a Clinical Resource RN who works very closely with lots of them. ALWAYS question your Doctor.0
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I guess I should have said this in the beginning, but I AM under a doctors care through all of this!! She put me on a 1200 cal/diet to begin with, but I had never heard of eating your exercise calories until I came here. I was also unaware of the deficit. I have also seen a nutritionist and she agrees with a 1200 cal diet, but it was never mentioned that eating (or not eating) the earned calories. I'm sorry this post caused such a big ado!
Yeah, you didn't do anything wrong. Posting is the first step, then seeing what people write gives you different ways to look at it. We all have strong opinions about what works for us and maybe for others. It's good for everyone to hear the opinions because then people can read and decide on their own what they feel is right. So please don't feel like you posted something wrong. You didn't, and if you got anything out of it, then it was worth it!
regards,
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