Resetting your metabolism

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  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    But you have to be careful. MFP gives you a TDEE without exercise, which is why we get to eat our exercise calories. It serves as motivation to work out! YOu get to eat more and you get "good job"s from your friends.

    Other websites give you a TDEE that includes your exercise which means you do NOT get to eat your exercise, and you better do them or you're eating more than you should.
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    Rachel6503 - I agree with you. If I make the decision to switch to TDEE I'll subtract the Activity Multiplier. So I don't 'double dip' here. I'm also going to stick with Netting :smile:

    Thinking this over last night on WW you get activity points to use or NOT use. If you don't use them you lose more weight. That was the mindset I had (up until yesterday) on how to approach MFP. So when I would complete my entry for the day here and got the warning that I wasn't eating enough calories (mind you - I had three meals and two snacks) I just ignored it thinking I would lose an extra pound. Running the Nutrition report was a huge eye opener. Having so many days at Net 200, 300, 400 etc. I clearly set myself up in starvation mode. Let's hope I can get myself reset and back to fat burning mode.

    Exercise is not a problem for me as I genuinely like it. If I go without it for a few days I don't feel right and get restless. Thanks for sharing the information and warnings - I appreciate it.

    Any other suggestions on getting out of starvation mode and into fat burning mode - bring it!! cause I definitely need it....
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    Rachel6503 - I agree with you. If I make the decision to switch to TDEE I'll subtract the Activity Multiplier. So I don't 'double dip' here. I'm also going to stick with Netting :smile:

    But you do have to use some kind of multiplier though to account for non-exercise activity (like cleaning, working, digesting, etc). This is why MFP tells you to select your activity level based on no exercise and then it uses slightly different multipliers than the other sites. If you want to earn and eat exercise calories just use MFP, set your guided goal to zero weight loss, the number it will give you is your TDEE without exercise, then you can go back through your goals and ste them using the custom feature and just subtract your 300 manually. (OR just tell MFP You want to lose a half pound a week and it'll subtract 250, this is what I do when I'm trying to lose weight).
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    Rachel6503 - I agree with you. If I make the decision to switch to TDEE I'll subtract the Activity Multiplier. So I don't 'double dip' here. I'm also going to stick with Netting :smile:

    But you do have to use some kind of multiplier though to account for non-exercise activity (like cleaning, working, digesting, etc). This is why MFP tells you to select your activity level based on no exercise and then it uses slightly different multipliers than the other sites. If you want to earn and eat exercise calories just use MFP, set your guided goal to zero weight loss, the number it will give you is your TDEE without exercise, then you can go back through your goals and ste them using the custom feature and just subtract your 300 manually. (OR just tell MFP You want to lose a half pound a week and it'll subtract 250, this is what I do when I'm trying to lose weight).

    Thanks Rachel!! That's really good information :happy:
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    Status update: Weighed in this morning 1.3 lbs lighter!! Getting better at Netting - still not equal yet (under). That's with three meals, two snacks and a glass of wine! :drinker: Can't quite fit in the evening snack which would help. I'm just not hungry an hour before bed. I need to adjust my habits and mental mindset of eating certain foods in certain portion sizes. Working on increasing portion sizes, i.e. 200 calorie snack instead of 100 (more peanut butter - YUM!!) etc.

    So, I'm hoping to continue to switch my metabolism from fat storing to fat burning. Calorie Switching will be a no brainer by default due to workouts - one day cardio; one day weights. I need to stay focused on NETTING! My calorie burn from weights isn't much for the workout but is a big difference in the long run having more muscle.

    @Rachel6503 - you really helped with resetting my MFP calculations - THANKS!
  • AI1108
    AI1108 Posts: 488 Member
    bumpity!
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Opinions - on which Activity Multiplier to use to calculate TDEE. Here's the options:

    Step 2: Calculate You Activity Multiplier

    Pick your activity level from below and multiple it against your RMR:

    Sedentary (e.g., you do no exercising and have a desk job) = 1.2
    Lightly active (e.g., you participate in light exercise or sports 1 to 3 times per week) = 1.375
    Moderately active (e.g., you participate in moderate exercise or sports 3 to 5 times per week) = 1.55
    Very active (e.g., you train hard 6 to 7 per week in exercise and/or sports) = 1.725
    Extremely Active (e.g., you exercise or play sports hard everyday & have physical job or 2X day training, i.e. marathon, contest etc.)

    I used the Activity Multiplier of 1.55 to calculate my TDEE. My workout schedule is:

    M-F 4:30 am - Aero Pilates Performer 30 minutes
    M W F - 4:30 pm Cardio 20 - 40 minutes based on type
    T TH SA Weight/Strength Training 30 - 45 minutes. Following Body For Life. One week two upper and one lower body; next week two lower and one upper body workouts.

    I sit at a desk job but get up and move around for a few minutes each hour.

    Think I qualify for the Very Active multiplier?

    It might, but then you would not log any extra exercise calories using this method. Given the fact that you have a desk job, you are probably better in the "lightly active" category (most people don't realize how little they move most of the day).

    Ultimately, it doesn't make any difference--your body will keep track 24 hours a day. Regardless of "category", if you are in a deficit, you'll lose, if not you won't.
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    Here's the info from the Jillian Michaels article I mentioned in my original post. Sorry, I no longer have the URL.

    "...Many people suffer from the backlash that can result from years of yo-yo diets. What happens is this: When people let their calorie levels drop too low, their body's survival mechanism kicks in, lowering their metabolic set point (or basal metabolic rate). When they go off that crash diet and begin to eat normally again, they gain back any weight lost — plus. And what follows that? Yup, another crash diet.
    The cycle is often very frustrating, but it CAN be reversed with time, consistency, and patience. What you'll need to do is the exact opposite of what we call shocking the metabolism; you have to allow your body time to adapt to a new metabolic set point — by being consistent, you'll force your body to adapt.
    Okay, here's the game plan: First, set your daily caloric intake at 12 calories per pound of body weight. (For example, my weight is 117; 117 x 12 = 1,404 calories a day.) Then stick like glue to that calorie allowance for at least one to two months, depending on your metabolism. This will allow your body time to readjust your metabolic set point accordingly.
    Now, here's the other part of the equation: The absolute best way to pump up your metabolism is to EXERCISE. You'll be burning calories not only during your workout but also up to 48 hours after — all the while increasing lean muscle tissue, which speeds the metabolism over the long term. Aim for five hours of exercise a week if possible, but no fewer than three hours a week.
    Get more fitness tips from Jillian Michaels.
    Last Updated: 11/16/2009"
  • babygurl48
    babygurl48 Posts: 1,237 Member
    bump!!!! interesting!!!
  • Bumping this ... very interesting ...

    According to Gillian I need 2520 to "reset" my motabilism ... WOW that is a lot of calories!!!! :laugh:
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    Yep - I agree, that's a lot of calories when you do the math. I half want to and half don't want to try it. I'm going to stick with my goal reset that Rachel### (can't remember the #'s in her userid) suggested. Sedentary (have a desk job); zero for workouts and 1/2lb loss per week. That way my workout calories are reflect in my daily total without any chance of double dipping. I sure hope I have those settings correct! While I'm getting better at netting, I still have ~200 calories more or less (usually more) left over. But no longer having net calories around 200 - 400.
  • rosied915
    rosied915 Posts: 799 Member
    I went on the website recommended by Lynn and after all the calculations ended up with 2604 cals.

    I am to subtract 200-300 cals per day from that to lose weight.

    This gives me 2300 cals per day. (the same as the Jillian calculation)

    This will not be happening and I can't see how I will fit that much food in me.

    someone talk to me.......
  • Nette_54
    Nette_54 Posts: 265 Member
    You must eat at least 1200 calories a day or your body goes into starvation mode and your body will store it as fat

    I have just joined Curves the ladies gym and was reading the eating plan they use, it is a 30 day plan.

    Phase 1: For 7 days they say to eat 1200 calories

    Phase 2: for 23 days eat 1500 calories ( either a diet higher in protein or a diet higher in carbs )

    Phase 3: for 2 - 4 weeks eat 2000 - 2500 calories - if you gain 1 to 1 and half kilos ( 2 to 2 and half pounds I think ) then go back to phase 1 I don't like the idea of doing this for 4 weeks but maybe 2 weeks but I guess they know best

    By giving your body a rest from the low calories it will help boost your metabolism so you lose weight and the idea too is you learn how to know maintain your weight when you have reached your goal weight stay with the 2000 to 2500 calories and again if you gain a Kilo and half do the 1200 calories for a few days then go back to normal don't worry about phase 2 if you are at your goal weight. It is working for me so far and my daughter too

    Good luck
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    @rosied915 - I agree, my calculations were in that same neighborhood and I can't fathom eating that much! Unless it was unhealthy/high fat/high calorie foods and that's not what I want or like much. Yes, I crave Lay's potato chips now and then and when I do, I have a serving which satisfies the craving for awhile.
  • colgosling
    colgosling Posts: 104 Member
    So much to take in and so little time :) Great thread - very interesting
  • MissMaggie3
    MissMaggie3 Posts: 2,464 Member
    BIG BUMP!

    Verrrrrry interesting. I upped my calories to maintenance a couple of weeks ago and started gaining weight. Was thinking of lowering my allowance again, but having read this thread I think I'll give it a while longer.
  • rosied915
    rosied915 Posts: 799 Member
    BIG BUMP!

    Verrrrrry interesting. I upped my calories to maintenance a couple of weeks ago and started gaining weight. Was thinking of lowering my allowance again, but having read this thread I think I'll give it a while longer.

    You are amazing to be so calm about gaining!! I would be crushed and could NEVER be that patient.

    AWESOME THREAD~ I'm going to read and re-read it a few times to let it sink in!
  • MissMaggie3
    MissMaggie3 Posts: 2,464 Member
    You are amazing to be so calm about gaining!! I would be crushed and could NEVER be that patient.

    Well maybe I should be panicking! :laugh:

    I'm genuinly interested to see what happens. Not sure how long my nerve will hold though ...
  • lynn9
    lynn9 Posts: 19 Member
    Latest update: On vacation last week. Did my best to adhere to eating every three hours. This week being quite diligent about it and about netting. Had a few days below 1200 Net due to workouts. Yesterday, was a day that I could eat all day long - actual hunger pangs so, I grazed most of the day. The good news is that I'm getting those hunger pangs. Having been in starvation mode for so long, I didn't realize that they were 'missing' so to speak. I'm taking this as a sign that my metabolism is starting to rev up a bit and hopefully resetting to a fat burning mode :smile: Clothes are getting roomier. Holding off on the scale for another week.....
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