1 glass of wine 🍷 rule

misskherrington wrote: »

Ok what’s the truth on this? Is having more than 1 not giving me benefits

Depends. Some people are sad drunks, others happy drunks, others angry drunks. I'd say if alcohol makes you a happy drunk, you have the best chances of "benefits."

willboywonder wrote: »

AnnPT77 wrote: »

willboywonder wrote: »

The enzyme in wine believed to be helpful is resveratrol, which comes from grapes. So, have a serving or two of grapes a day. Alcohol tends to be high in sugar which could impair your triglyceride numbers; alcohol is also a known carcinogen. The health benefits of drinking alcohol is minimized by these and other potential health risks. Just eat a serving or two of grapes a day. A serving of grapes is about 30. Be sure to portion them out. You don't want to overindulge in them.

Strictly speaking, alcohol is not high in sugar. Alcohol is alcohol, not a carb (nor protein nor fat) at all. Most alcoholic beverages contain some sugar. There's negligible sugar in clear liquors like vodka, rum, etc. Alcohol is believed to raise triglycerides itself, though.

I'd speculate that people believe alcohol is high in sugar because a lot of sugar goes into making alcohol. The sugar is broken down in a chemical process (fermentation), and to the extent that it's broken down, it's no longer sugar, it's alcohol. Some alcoholic drinks, such as wine among others, do contain residual sugar that wasn't broken down into alcohol.

I had no idea. Thank you for telling me. The Stella Rosa Black wine I used to drink, according to My Fitness Pal, logs it at 23 grams of sugar, so I'm very confused. I need to research it some more. I'm glad you brought it to my attention.

Remember that the database is crowd sourced: Entered by regular users. Not everyone is accurate.

IME, the entries for alcoholic drinks are more likely than average to be wrong. Among other things, U.S. labeling requirements for them aren't as informative nutritionally, so people wing it. The standard labels have neither calories nor nutrients, just alcohol percent, proof, or ABV.

Interestingly, that wine does have a nutrition label (though I have some reservations about its accuracy that I won't belabor). Based on that, 23g of sugar in a 6 ounce pour is correct.

The Stella Rosa Black is reportedly a sweet, low alcohol red blend, so probably more residual sugar than other reds. Plus the label lists ingredients other than wine.

If something has 23 grams of sugar, that accounts for around 92 calories. It lists 5% alcohol, so roughly 0.3 oz alcohol in 6 oz. A fluid ounce of ethanol is about 23.2g. In round numbers and rough calculation, that's mean about 7g of alcohol in 6oz of that wine, if I do the math right (I don't always 😉). That would be about 49 calories of alcohol.

So, 160 calories per 6oz per the label, and that would account for 141 of them (92+49), which is within the 20% wiggle factor.

Bottom line: Your preferred wine is very high in sugar, relative to even other wines. Dry reds can have under 10 grams/liter residual sugar. This one has 23g (arguably not all residual) in only 187ml, so around 123g/l sugar (again, if I do the math right). That would put it, sugar wise, between wines like Moscato or sweet Riesling, and dessert wines.

So, yup, choose a sweet wine, get quite a lot of sugar. Choose plain vodka, get no sugar.

I love my wine but if you want to lose weight seriously it's best to avoid it. I was losing weight while averaging a couple glasses a day, then joined a local gym and increased my weight loss. I quit the wine for about a month and a half, and kept up with the gym and the weight really came off. Once I hit my goal weight, I started up the wine and my weight loss has stabilized with a slight downward trend, but I still workout at the gym for 80 minutes a day (45 min cardio, 35 weights), five days on and one day off a week. I've lost about 40 lbs since Thanksgiving, and am now losing maybe a half pound a week. I am about 6'1, and now about 210 pounds, 14% bodyfat, and 66 years old. It's basically calories in, and calories out, but the nutrition factor comes into play as well, and alcohol has no nutritional value, so with limited caloric intake while losing weight, nutrition is most important.

If I didn't drink wine, I would probably be healthier, but wine makes me happier and I really enjoy it. I stick to dry reds and whites to save on sugar, calories, and carbs, as opposed to sweet wines like Stella, and sometimes I drink vodka or good bourbon to save some extra calories. I'm not an advocate for wine, but do what makes you happy. Discipline is key so MFP journal every day...and be honest about it.

Hi Everyone,

This post is fascinating!! Really interesting info about the chemistry of it.....I don't drink too often but I do like a wine occasionally. I stick with dry wines and I like reds. I also prefer wines that are not made in the US because they seem to have less sulfites. My favorite wine is a Malbec, but in the summer I've been looking for a lighter wine (red or white) but still dry and doesn't taste like water.

Are there any particular wines that this group has found that are dry, low sugar or more on the healthful end??? Many dry whites for me do not have enough body to them and taste is minimal. I've tried some "orange" or skin on wines last summer but didn't find one I really liked.
So what has everyone found that is a satisfying on the healthful end:
Red
White
Bubbly

Why on EARTH does it show white wine as zero carbs/??
Woodbridge etc,
BOGUS!!!

@slowolf50 If I didn't drink wine, I would probably be healthier, but wine makes me happier and I really enjoy it. I stick to dry reds and whites to save on sugar, calories, and carbs...

Have you tried, FitVine?
https://www.fitvinewine.com/pages/about-us#:~:text=Ferment to dry,than 1 gram of sugar.

https://www.breakthrubev.com/news/2019/fit-vine-wine#:~:text=Perfect Fit for Consumers&text=For health-conscious consumers, a,carbohydrates, and 14.1% alcohol

Sugar 0.06g
Calories 117
Carbohydrates 3.9g
Alcohol 14.1%
Each bottle of wine has less than 1 gram of sugar.
Sidenote: I'm sensitive to alcohol. 🥴 I can have 6-8 oz and never feel like a dingbat. I don't feel any side effects the next day, either. It works for me. 😸 I allow myself some on Friday nights, moderating my portion, of course. 🍀

ggmoo wrote: »

Hi Everyone,

This post is fascinating!! Really interesting info about the chemistry of it.....I don't drink too often but I do like a wine occasionally. I stick with dry wines and I like reds. I also prefer wines that are not made in the US because they seem to have less sulfites. My favorite wine is a Malbec, but in the summer I've been looking for a lighter wine (red or white) but still dry and doesn't taste like water.

Are there any particular wines that this group has found that are dry, low sugar or more on the healthful end??? Many dry whites for me do not have enough body to them and taste is minimal. I've tried some "orange" or skin on wines last summer but didn't find one I really liked.
So what has everyone found that is a satisfying on the healthful end:
Red
White
Bubbly

Maybe try a Chardonnay for Summer? I like French Reds Beaujolais ,Bordeaux also Portuguese Dao Bubbly George Mumm when my budget allows or a dry Prosecco/Cava.