HCG

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  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    No - however 2 years ago I tried to lower my calories to 1200 - 1400 per day... that was not sustainable for me. I was grouchy all the time and was weak and tired.

    Hmmm - How was I able to sustain this time while on the HCG? Oh, yeah... the HCG releases up to 2000 calories per day to protect you from going into starvation mode.

    Where is your factual source of information on this?
  • Russellb97
    Russellb97 Posts: 1,057 Member
    Starvation Mode is when your body releases too much fat for energy for too long. The hormone that causes it LEPTIN is in our fat cells. Trust me you will go into starvation mode but at 500 calories it doesn't really matter because you'd continue losing weight albeit at a slower rate.
    It's like the same as anorexia.

    It's ok, I'm glad it has worked for you, but I could not with a clear conscious ever recommend it to anyone.

    I will enjoy my pizza and ice cream while getting ripped. I live the greatest lifestyle a fat person could ever live.
  • Russellb97
    Russellb97 Posts: 1,057 Member
    Sorry girly, I'm not that keen on sarcasm :embarassed:
    What's HCG? Never heard of it.

    Sunkiss be glad you haven't.

    LOL look at my post-count. You know I've heard of it. :bigsmile:
  • "Where is your factual source of information on this?"

    On my experience? My experience is what it is. I can only attest to my personal experience. Will this work for everyone. NOPE - It did not work at all for my wife. She had to stop after 2 weeks. But my numbers don't lie. I weighed 355 on June 15 of this year. Today I weigh 293. That's a fact. :)
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    "Where is your factual source of information on this?"

    On my experience? My experience is what it is. I can only attest to my personal experience. Will this work for everyone. NOPE - It did not work at all for my wife. She had to stop after 2 weeks. But my numbers don't lie. I weighed 355 on June 15 of this year. Today I weigh 293. That's a fact. :)

    Ok, so basically you just think all of this is true. Props to the placebo effect! :drinker:
  • Oops Russllb97... but actually...

    Starvation mode is a state in which the body is responding to prolonged periods of low caloric intake levels. During short periods of caloric abstinence, the human body will burn primarily free fatty acids from body fat stores. After prolonged periods of starvation the body has depleted its body fat and begins to burn lean tissue and muscle as a fuel source.[2]

    Ordinarily, the body responds to reduced caloric intake by burning fat reserves first, and only consumes muscle and other tissues when those reserves are exhausted. Specifically, the body burns fat after first exhausting the contents of the digestive tract along with glycogen reserves stored in muscle and liver cells.[3] After prolonged periods of starvation, the body will utilize the proteins within muscle tissue as a fuel source. People who practice fasting on a regular basis, such as those adhering to caloric restricted diets, can prime their bodies to abstain from food without burning lean tissue.[4]. Resistance training (such as weight lifting) can also prevent the loss of muscle mass while a person is caloric restricted.
  • Russellb97
    Russellb97 Posts: 1,057 Member
    "Where is your factual source of information on this?"

    On my experience? My experience is what it is. I can only attest to my personal experience. Will this work for everyone. NOPE - It did not work at all for my wife. She had to stop after 2 weeks. But my numbers don't lie. I weighed 355 on June 15 of this year. Today I weigh 293. That's a fact. :)

    Man I don't doubt you lost the weight.
    The truth is it would work the same if you just ate 500 calories a day and took a sugar pill. You can control hunger with your head, and taking a drop or a shot that a Doctor tells you will stop your hunger will make you believe just that.
  • tross0924
    tross0924 Posts: 909 Member
    Most of the injections come with an appetite suppressant and b12. So you get a magic shot, the b12 gives you energy and you feel amazing, the suppressant makes you not hungry, and viola hcg is the best thing every.

    And if you lost 50 lbs I fat and gained 3 lbs of muscle either your feet were a little bit sweaty when you stepped on the scale, you had a half ounce of water in your bladder, or any number of things. I've made a BF scale say I lost 9% BF and no weight within 30 minutes. Impedance measurements suck, and can't be trusted, so basically I'm explaining that you didn't.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,021 Member
    ha ha ha - you're funny. HCG natually stimulates testosterone production - so maybe that helped. Not sure. That would explain why I lost .5 lbs of muscle after ending the HCG and while losing 10 more pounds and working out.
    This is true. HCG is taken by pro and amatuer bodybuilders after a cycle to stimulate natural test production. You could have gained 3lbs of muscle. But for a female, I'm more than sure that muscle catabolism happens.
  • Russellb97
    Russellb97 Posts: 1,057 Member
    This is not the same as a diet induced starvation mode. That is extreme famine. The last thing our body wants to do is burn up our muscles for energy because that's what happens just before we DIE from starvation.
    This has to do with how our body slows metabolism to burn less fat and increase our hunger(leptin)
    Oops Russllb97... but actually...

    Starvation mode is a state in which the body is responding to prolonged periods of low caloric intake levels. During short periods of caloric abstinence, the human body will burn primarily free fatty acids from body fat stores. After prolonged periods of starvation the body has depleted its body fat and begins to burn lean tissue and muscle as a fuel source.[2]

    Ordinarily, the body responds to reduced caloric intake by burning fat reserves first, and only consumes muscle and other tissues when those reserves are exhausted. Specifically, the body burns fat after first exhausting the contents of the digestive tract along with glycogen reserves stored in muscle and liver cells.[3] After prolonged periods of starvation, the body will utilize the proteins within muscle tissue as a fuel source. People who practice fasting on a regular basis, such as those adhering to caloric restricted diets, can prime their bodies to abstain from food without burning lean tissue.[4]. Resistance training (such as weight lifting) can also prevent the loss of muscle mass while a person is caloric restricted.
  • Sorry - Placebo is out. Explained away earlier in the thread. Placebo will not physiologically allow for one to lose 50 pounds of fat and put on 3 pounds of muscle while maintaining a 500 calorie per day diet. Placebo might explain absence of hunger.. but not this first statement.
  • Schwiggity
    Schwiggity Posts: 1,449 Member
    Why don't you just let me pee in your mouth instead?
  • tisamg
    tisamg Posts: 62 Member
    A good rule of thumb to remember: Healthy living is a lifestyle. Whatever you do to lose the weight is what you will have to do to maintain the weight.... drops, pills, starvation, portion control, exercise, whatever. I lost 60 lbs. and have kept it off for over 10 years. I didn't gain it all in an instant, so expecting to lose it in an instant was not even a thought. Living the rest of my life healthy is not a quick fix... I want it to last a really long time :)
  • Russellb97
    Russellb97 Posts: 1,057 Member
    Great post!
    Most of the injections come with an appetite suppressant and b12. So you get a magic shot, the b12 gives you energy and you feel amazing, the suppressant makes you not hungry, and viola hcg is the best thing every.

    And if you lost 50 lbs I fat and gained 3 lbs of muscle either your feet were a little bit sweaty when you stepped on the scale, you had a half ounce of water in your bladder, or any number of things. I've made a BF scale say I lost 9% BF and no weight within 30 minutes. Impedance measurements suck, and can't be trusted, so basically I'm explaining that you didn't.
  • Not using a BIA scale... hooked up to monitors at the doctors office.
  • Oops - sorry. Did not do the B-12
  • Schwiggity - that would mean you must be pregnant? :)
  • This has been fun - but I gotts to go. I'll check back tomorrow.
  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    Is this a lifestyle you can keep up for life? I highly doubt it but, if you can props to you. Eventually you will lose all your stored fat and just be a mean hungry person all the time no matter how many drops, shots, pills or whatever it is you take.
  • tisamg
    tisamg Posts: 62 Member
    A good rule of thumb to remember: Healthy living is a lifestyle. Whatever you do to lose the weight is what you will have to do to maintain the weight.... drops, pills, starvation, portion control, exercise, whatever. I lost 60 lbs. and have kept it off for over 10 years. I didn't gain it all in an instant, so expecting to lose it in an instant was not even a thought. Living the rest of my life healthy is not a quick fix... I want it to last a really long time :)

    And if I didn't make it very clear, I did NOT use hCG drops to lose the weight. I ate less and moved more :)
  • MoooveOverFluffy
    MoooveOverFluffy Posts: 398 Member
    just an add-on to my previous comment.... my friend's brother lost a ton of weight on the HCG injections, NOT the drops (like the ones i bought @pharmacy). i believe the INJECTIONS may work for some people, but i believe the DROPS you order online or sold over-the-counter are a GIMMICK. I almost bought it, as someone above stated, in my desperate need for faster progress. I took them back to the store, and i'm gonna do it the old fashioned way. TO EACH HIS OWN, i'm not bashing anyone.... you asked for opinions, and i gave mine as did everyone else on this board.......................................
  • kenyonsmom10
    kenyonsmom10 Posts: 97 Member
    I did the injections and lost 30 pounds. I regulated my calories based on the way I felt. Typically I ate closer to 600 or 700 mark each day. This diet is not for everyone.
  • I agree. When I asked my doctor about this I was told that the drops 1) aren't regulated pharmaceutical grade, and 2) what ever is contained in the drops will not survive the PH of the stomach. IMHO - Injections prescribed by a doctor are the ONLY way to go.
    i believe the INJECTIONS may work for some people, but i believe the DROPS you order online or sold over-the-counter are a GIMMICK.
  • This is exactly my approach. I've lost 66 pounds since June 15 (Today is Oct 2)
    I did the injections and lost 30 pounds. I regulated my calories based on the way I felt. Typically I ate closer to 600 or 700 mark each day. This diet is not for everyone.
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