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Video recording.........okay or not?
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MargaretYakoda wrote: »
Don’t worry about lobsters on planes as emotional support animals.
Da *kitten*?Personally I hate it so much. But, if they have it angled towards themselves and are respectful I guess I don’t actually care. I do see some people online demonstrating things that I get tips from. But when I see it in person, I don’t love it. So maybe that makes me a hypocrite. Then of course you have people like Joey Swoll who expose the worst of them. Including people doing some HIGHLY nasty things to the machines for their Only Fans etc. IDK, if I were king of the world, I’d either ban it or create a gym that caters to it. Probably way too niche but maybe in the right location.
I agree with everything you just said
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Just curious, what are you doing in your profile pic? Mine is of Mona Lisa holding my cat. He’s kind of boujie so I had to have it made.Video recording.........okay or not?
Obviously a private business can decide, but I’m a strong no. I won’t go to that gym if they do. This is the stuff that slips through the cracks and now we have people taking lobsters on planes as support animals. It’s a slippery slope.
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(They are allowed as food)
If such a thing ever actually happened it was very likely a stunt.
Airlines have really tightened up their rules after much abuse of the system.
Most airlines won’t allow any emotional support animals except dogs now. And they have to have all the proper paperwork in order. Any other animal must fly as a pet, and follow all the rules that apply to every other pet on the plane.
It had to be right! I didn’t look at how old it was, but it seemed current.
I don’t want to hijack this discussion. But it was a huge issue within the disability community a few years back.
Some people were being inconsiderate kittens, as humans occasionally are capable of being. Others were farming for YouTube rage content. Basically ruined a good thing for the few people who actually do have well behaved well controlled emotional support animals that weren’t dogs. Most often autistic and/or people with PTSD.
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Mfp won’t let me “reply” right now. In my pic? I’m just laying. And taking a selfie. Definitely not as fancy as a cat Mona Lisa that you had made.
(Edit: I think it was me and not mfp this time. I actually forgot how to quote 😂)
Okay, I’m dumb. Forget I asked 🤦🏼♀️ Lol. Super pretty btw!
Thanks, it’s above my fireplace, we’re very proud 😂.
😂that’s great you’ve found a prominent place for it.
And thank you!☺️1 -
Talk about video content, there are many YOUTUBERS out there who are FINALLY getting jailed or dumped because of content. The two I'm glad are getting their just desserts are Johnny Somali (for stunts in Japan and Israel) and Jack Doherty (who is getting sued for his bodyguard punching out an innocent bystander who was holding a friend back after Jack instigated a fight)MargaretYakoda wrote: »MargaretYakoda wrote: »
Don’t worry about lobsters on planes as emotional support animals.
Da *kitten*?Personally I hate it so much. But, if they have it angled towards themselves and are respectful I guess I don’t actually care. I do see some people online demonstrating things that I get tips from. But when I see it in person, I don’t love it. So maybe that makes me a hypocrite. Then of course you have people like Joey Swoll who expose the worst of them. Including people doing some HIGHLY nasty things to the machines for their Only Fans etc. IDK, if I were king of the world, I’d either ban it or create a gym that caters to it. Probably way too niche but maybe in the right location.
I agree with everything you just said
❤️
Just curious, what are you doing in your profile pic? Mine is of Mona Lisa holding my cat. He’s kind of boujie so I had to have it made.Video recording.........okay or not?
Obviously a private business can decide, but I’m a strong no. I won’t go to that gym if they do. This is the stuff that slips through the cracks and now we have people taking lobsters on planes as support animals. It’s a slippery slope.
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(They are allowed as food)
If such a thing ever actually happened it was very likely a stunt.
Airlines have really tightened up their rules after much abuse of the system.
Most airlines won’t allow any emotional support animals except dogs now. And they have to have all the proper paperwork in order. Any other animal must fly as a pet, and follow all the rules that apply to every other pet on the plane.
It had to be right! I didn’t look at how old it was, but it seemed current.
I don’t want to hijack this discussion. But it was a huge issue within the disability community a few years back.
Some people were being inconsiderate kittens, as humans occasionally are capable of being. Others were farming for YouTube rage content. Basically ruined a good thing for the few people who actually do have well behaved well controlled emotional support animals that weren’t dogs. Most often autistic and/or people with PTSD.
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A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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IMO if someone has to label themselves as an "influencer" they're not worth the powder to blow them to h#ll. Also if, by chance, they have some good information, they're not going on the cheap and recording in a public gym.
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sollyn23l2 wrote: »A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The videoing itself doesn't bother me, it's whether or not they're being respectful of other gymgoers while filming. Which often they are not (though there are many that are). I say live and let live, it's a public space, be respectful while doing your thing.
except it's not a public space. The sidewalk is a public space.
You have no way of knowing everyones consent in the background of your video, what if that person has a stalker or an abusive ex, they now know where they workout, great.
I've only ever filmed in a gym, actually, I asked someone to film my form on a lift to send to a trainer, no one else in the gym, no one in the background, no sticking my *kitten* out of clicks
I'd be happy to see filming banned in gyms because once again, a few spoil it for everyone because they have no sense of respect for others3 -
Yes and when it's mentioned to some members, they get so offended. It's then you have to remind them that we are a private business and that we have the option to boot them out if they refuse to comply.sollyn23l2 wrote: »A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The videoing itself doesn't bother me, it's whether or not they're being respectful of other gymgoers while filming. Which often they are not (though there are many that are). I say live and let live, it's a public space, be respectful while doing your thing.
except it's not a public space. The sidewalk is a public space.
You have no way of knowing everyones consent in the background of your video, what if that person has a stalker or an abusive ex, they now know where they workout, great.
I've only ever filmed in a gym, actually, I asked someone to film my form on a lift to send to a trainer, no one else in the gym, no one in the background, no sticking my *kitten* out of clicks
I'd be happy to see filming banned in gyms because once again, a few spoil it for everyone because they have no sense of respect for others
Last week I had to terminate membership for a couple of teenage boys taking pics of themselves in the bathroom after 2 warning not to.
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Im ok with banning it completely.3
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I haven’t gone to the gym in years because of bad experiences so I already have a bias and I own it. I’m sure some gyms are great environments or have good management who monitors these things, but just seeing someone holding their phone a certain way so it looks like they’re recording (even if they’re not) is enough to make me feel uncomfortable and leave that area. I realize my response to this topic is probably biased because of my past experiences, but the whole idea makes me uncomfortable.
I do like the ideas of having certain gym areas or hours where people can record if they are doing so for productive purposes.1 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The videoing itself doesn't bother me, it's whether or not they're being respectful of other gymgoers while filming. Which often they are not (though there are many that are). I say live and let live, it's a public space, be respectful while doing your thing.
except it's not a public space. The sidewalk is a public space.
You have no way of knowing everyones consent in the background of your video, what if that person has a stalker or an abusive ex, they now know where they workout, great.
I've only ever filmed in a gym, actually, I asked someone to film my form on a lift to send to a trainer, no one else in the gym, no one in the background, no sticking my *kitten* out of clicks
I'd be happy to see filming banned in gyms because once again, a few spoil it for everyone because they have no sense of respect for others
With facial recognition technology, this is actually a thing.
Ever watched the Discovery show about the Real Time Crime centers? Mind boggling.
Wasn’t there a big worry a while back about people being able to identify random people they’d taken a shine to and track them down using similar tech?1 -
springlering62 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The videoing itself doesn't bother me, it's whether or not they're being respectful of other gymgoers while filming. Which often they are not (though there are many that are). I say live and let live, it's a public space, be respectful while doing your thing.
except it's not a public space. The sidewalk is a public space.
You have no way of knowing everyones consent in the background of your video, what if that person has a stalker or an abusive ex, they now know where they workout, great.
I've only ever filmed in a gym, actually, I asked someone to film my form on a lift to send to a trainer, no one else in the gym, no one in the background, no sticking my *kitten* out of clicks
I'd be happy to see filming banned in gyms because once again, a few spoil it for everyone because they have no sense of respect for others
With facial recognition technology, this is actually a thing.
Ever watched the Discovery show about the Real Time Crime centers? Mind boggling.
Wasn’t there a big worry a while back about people being able to identify random people they’d taken a shine to and track them down using similar tech?
That can already be done using Google image search. Search their picture in Google images, and if their picture is in a public social media, you can often find them.0 -
A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The debate over phone use in gyms boils down to respect. While recording workouts can inspire, it's often misused for personal gain or to the detriment of others. Rules are crucial to maintain focus on form and respect for fellow members' privacy.0 -
I think it safe to say that the majority of us are not there to tone our Adonis body but to get fit.
Face it, none of us look our best in sweaty oversized T-shirts and gym shorts!
So, no to video in the gym, I don't want me and my wobbly bits ridiculed on the internet.
I can get that at home!3 -
Except with a lot of todays "influencers" and "bloggers", VIEWS and LIKES are more important than giving respect to others. Even today there are a lot of Instagramers and Tic Tockers who go out and do disrespectful things just to get views. Until they are disrespected or actually even sued or arrested, they will continue do it.A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The debate over phone use in gyms boils down to respect. While recording workouts can inspire, it's often misused for personal gain or to the detriment of others. Rules are crucial to maintain focus on form and respect for fellow members' privacy.
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Except with a lot of todays "influencers" and "bloggers", VIEWS and LIKES are more important than giving respect to others. Even today there are a lot of Instagramers and Tic Tockers who go out and do disrespectful things just to get views. Until they are disrespected or actually even sued or arrested, they will continue do it.A big controversy nowadays in the gym is the use of phones recording individuals workouts. While there are some great influencers in the industry that do a great job on instruction, there are so many "influencers" out there focusing on their own workouts, but doing things like commenting on other members, being angry that someone stepped in front of their recordings, and taking up space they don't need to so that others won't be in their recordings.
IMO, we are in such a "ME" society now, that so many clips and recordings don't really focus on the actual correct form and execution of exercise, but just what the individual does just because they might have a nice physique.
While I'm okay with recording IF the person isn't causing a ruckus and IF they are considerate to others who may ask not to be in the background, I've had to actual ask members to leave because they didn't want to follow some of those rules. Places like LA Fitness and now possible 24 hour have strictly banned any recordings at all and most gyms will likely follow suit. In our gym already, we don't allow crocks or slippers to workout in.
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The debate over phone use in gyms boils down to respect. While recording workouts can inspire, it's often misused for personal gain or to the detriment of others. Rules are crucial to maintain focus on form and respect for fellow members' privacy.
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Then their activity should be banned from the gym.2 -
Personally other gym members filming or taking selfies barely register.
You need permission from the owner to use a tripod, but thats only for world class athletes
Or high level bodybuilders, everyone else just gets someone to film their set.
Today for example one bloke asked another to film him benching 4 plates for the first time.
The bodybuilders tend to use the quite end of the cardio section to do their progress videos for their coaches. While the youngsters use the changing room mirror to take their top less selfies.
The gym gets tagged in a lot of the members instagram posts and adds some their videos and selfies to their reel
There aren't many 'influencers' who use the the gym, the owner doesn't like that type of behaviour0 -
I lift in a powerlifting gym. I will often record my max set of my major lifts (squats, dead, bench) and the majority of the reason is because I want to have the proper form (checking depth for squats, ramping / hitching / efficiency of lift for deads, stability / arch / flare of the elbows for bench).
In a comp, the depth of a squat and hitching/ramping on deads are points that will disqualify you if done wrong.
In my vids I'll notice if my knees are caving, or if I'm tipped too far forward and I can correct.
I also film because I want to capture my max lifts. I am proud of them (took me 7 years to hit a 315lb deadlift) so you bet your bottom I want to capture that!
When I film, I do my best to ensure no-one else is in the frame. If there is someone in the frame, I'll blur them out or put a sticker over their face. I also put my phone where it's not in the way.
Surely there has to be some kind of happy medium.
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I assure you, not everyone is this considerate or doing it for those reasons. People are rubbing their VAGINA on the equipment to try to drum up Only Fans subscribers.😫🤢Earn money how you want, doesn’t bother me. But that’s crazy! And then the people not being respectful like you are blurring out faces but making fun of people in the background. Or slowing the video down and saying someone is STARING at them, when it’s literally barely a glance in their direction.KickassAmazon76 wrote: »I lift in a powerlifting gym. I will often record my max set of my major lifts (squats, dead, bench) and the majority of the reason is because I want to have the proper form (checking depth for squats, ramping / hitching / efficiency of lift for deads, stability / arch / flare of the elbows for bench).
In a comp, the depth of a squat and hitching/ramping on deads are points that will disqualify you if done wrong.
In my vids I'll notice if my knees are caving, or if I'm tipped too far forward and I can correct.
I also film because I want to capture my max lifts. I am proud of them (took me 7 years to hit a 315lb deadlift) so you bet your bottom I want to capture that!
When I film, I do my best to ensure no-one else is in the frame. If there is someone in the frame, I'll blur them out or put a sticker over their face. I also put my phone where it's not in the way.
Surely there has to be some kind of happy medium.
Of course I’m seeing the worst of the worst because of people like Joey Swoll😂I admit that. I’m sure most of the time it’s an annoyance or minor inconvenience. I’m positive if the majority of people were doing it the way you were, there could be a happy medium for most people.
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I posted something similar but I think we’re in the minority! I suspect PL gyms are slightly different: I record a lot of my lifts for the same reason as you, and whilst I train at home now, my previous gym had cameras propped up against water bottles eveywhere so people could check form. 99.9% were never posted - but they had faces blanked out if they did. TBH I don’t go to “normal” gyms as they don’t have the stuff I need, but there does appear to be a difference according to other posters!KickassAmazon76 wrote: »I lift in a powerlifting gym. I will often record my max set of my major lifts (squats, dead, bench) and the majority of the reason is because I want to have the proper form (checking depth for squats, ramping / hitching / efficiency of lift for deads, stability / arch / flare of the elbows for bench).
In a comp, the depth of a squat and hitching/ramping on deads are points that will disqualify you if done wrong.
In my vids I'll notice if my knees are caving, or if I'm tipped too far forward and I can correct.
I also film because I want to capture my max lifts. I am proud of them (took me 7 years to hit a 315lb deadlift) so you bet your bottom I want to capture that!
When I film, I do my best to ensure no-one else is in the frame. If there is someone in the frame, I'll blur them out or put a sticker over their face. I also put my phone where it's not in the way.
Surely there has to be some kind of happy medium.
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Ideally in a perfect world yes. But when you see the "gym fails" on Youtube, most of these people are inadvertantly being filmed without their knowledge. Again people aren't that concerned about the ramifications of how it may affect the other person, just that they get their filmed content out so they can get views and likes.KickassAmazon76 wrote: »I lift in a powerlifting gym. I will often record my max set of my major lifts (squats, dead, bench) and the majority of the reason is because I want to have the proper form (checking depth for squats, ramping / hitching / efficiency of lift for deads, stability / arch / flare of the elbows for bench).
In a comp, the depth of a squat and hitching/ramping on deads are points that will disqualify you if done wrong.
In my vids I'll notice if my knees are caving, or if I'm tipped too far forward and I can correct.
I also film because I want to capture my max lifts. I am proud of them (took me 7 years to hit a 315lb deadlift) so you bet your bottom I want to capture that!
When I film, I do my best to ensure no-one else is in the frame. If there is someone in the frame, I'll blur them out or put a sticker over their face. I also put my phone where it's not in the way.
Surely there has to be some kind of happy medium.
There are some like OE who gets content sent to him from other gym bros (a lot from India) doing stupid ego lifts and he makes fun of them, but this is already content that's been okayed by the sender.
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