17 Day Diet questions?!

17 Day Diet = Epic failure...

Eat sensible and stay within your calorie limits. Not so difficult.

Simply a copy and paste from what I sent to OP:

First of all the 17 day diet is a fad diet like all others, using protocols from the keto diet, calorie cycling and portion control (Weight Watchers). The only reason why it works is because you simply eat less than you consume, but what Dr Mike isn't telling you is by losing weight faster than 2lbs a week(Due to the huge deficit) you will likely have loose skin.

Another note the first phase "Accelerate"(keto based, low Carb) deplete the healthy glycogen (the storage form of glucose) stores in your muscles and liver. When you deplete glycogen stores, you also dehydrate, often causing the scale to drop significantly in the first week or two of the diet. This is usually interpreted as fat loss when it's actually mostly from dehydration and muscle loss. By the way, this is one of the reasons that low carb diets are so popular at the moment - there is a quick initial, but deceptive drop in scale weight. Glycogenesis (formation of glycogen) occurs in the liver and muscles when adequate quantities of carbohydrates are consumed - very little of this happens on a low carb diet. Glycogenolysis (breakdown of glycogen) occurs when glycogen is broken down to form glucose for use as fuel.

The second phase "Activate"(Calorie Cycling), there is no harm in calorie cycling temporarily or indefinitely and the process happens naturally for most people, who don't eat or burn the same number of calories every day. But I am not in favor of focusing on any process that takes you away from attending to the lifestyle changes that you need to make and practice for permanent weight control.

Third phase aka "Portion Control" (Weight Watchers). Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize you should consume less than your daily calorie limits, but I fail to see where Dr Mike suggest or even explain the macronutrient ratio in his diet. Do you even know the role of each macronutrient? Do you know why you are suppose to consume 1.2 - 1.6 grams of protein for every kilogram of bodyweight? or how about fat intake? Guess not.

Final phase "Cheat Day" - Wild weekends can reverse the progress you make during the week. Ultimately, you’ll feel like you are working hard but not getting anywhere. For example, if you created a 3500 calorie deficit by dieting and exercising Monday through Friday, you could easily undo it by eating and drinking 1750 extra calories for two days. Also, note that successful dieters change their mindsets so they want to eat healthy most of the time.

I've been training for quite some time and have done my homework and let me tell you the supplement industry and all these fad diets is coining it as the sheep keep buying this broscience thinking this is a silver bullet to weight loss. Do yourself a favor and start reading forums and speak to people that actually lost weight and not trying to sell you their product.

Golden rule of fat loss
- Calories consumed < calories burned
- High Protein intake to preserve muscle mass (1g - 2.5g per lean body mass, depending on goals )
- Decent fat intake as to boost testosterone and maintain a healthy reproductive system and organ functions
- Weight training to build muscle, the more muscle you have the more calories you burn in a rested state.

I would like to know some of the weight loss or inches lost on the 17 Day Diet if anyone has used that as a tool for weight loss. Also just a question, it does not mention drinking milk, at least in the first cycle, is it permitted?

I have lost 12lbs my husband has lost 17 I lost 12 inches just in cycle 2 and my husband lost 11.5 inches. This is a great diet, as far as all the people saying its a fad, or fake diet, calorie deficient or whatever else I have to say its false. You HAVE to eat a minimum of 1200 calories a day or your body will go into starvation mode...Cycle 1 you do take quite a bit out of your diet because its the stuff "most people" over do it on and we need to get rid of it and watch it in moderation, yes the diet is common sense but alot of people "like me" need it laid out for them in a manual or script to help them get on track...I did weight watchers for 4 years and lost alot of my weight but then stalled at the same weight and couldn't manage to break it...after some health issues and gaining some weight back I did the HCG shot diet and had GREAT success with that as well and it jump started me on a weight loss plan....this has kept me motivated and I have learned ways to eat my favorite foods and make them healthier, my husband has learned how to eat healthier, and it has helped him control his blood pressure, gout, and other health issues. I love what this diet has done for me and my husband, and would recommend it to ANYONE who needs to loose weight and learn what to do.

Facebook has a wonderfully active 17 day diet group where everyone is very devoted to the diet. I would recommend going there too to get your questions answered. I drank NF milk during C1 in my coffee (1c max). I substituted it for the 2nd yogurt serving they recommend. It worked just great. I think you are fine to have NF milk. Also, I track my calories here on MFP and I get about 1200 calories eating the 17DD recommended foods (low carb, high healthy protein). I am on cycle 2 and I am averaging 1250 calories.

I highly recommend the diet. It's completely healthy and not a "fad" as others have stated. DH lost 35lb in the Spring doing it and I am down 5lb (although if you know me, it takes me a year to lose 5lb so losing it in a month is a small miracle for me)!! I am also in the "less to lose" category, now with about 10 more pounds to go till my goal weight, so my weight loss is very slow. But who cares? I feel great and my recent labs were AMAZING on the diet! My doc even asked me what I have been doing to bring down my cholesterol by 25 points!

Katherine

I know someone who tried it, lost lots of weight initially, but was mainly water weight. The HUGE calorie deficit isn't good since it'll cause you to deplete glycogen reserves and look towards muscle for glucose and energy, causing muscle mass loss, which isnt' good. I think it's best to cut calories gradually rather than cutting your intake by 1/3 or 1/2 for some people.

Yes you do lose water weight at first but thats the same for any diet.

You dont have to have a huge calorie deficit. You eat a minimum of 1200 calories per day. You can eat more, you dont have to count calories if you dont want to, you can eat UNLIMITED protein.....

I did cut calories gradually and started exercising because thats what the book recommended, I havent been the weight I am now since I was at High School.

You dont need to buy any branded food or supplements-its all about probiotics, fruit, veg. lean meat , complex carbs and some fats....................oh and lots of water!!! its all good.