Decide what you want to be and then Be It

MFP is turning into Big Brother. :mad: :explode: :mad:

Watch what you say, even in private. :grumble:

Let's face it. MFP is a soap opera and some self-selected users are the actors. Those who make themselves most conspicuous - "MFP celebrities," so to speak - should expect a certain amount of scrutiny and criticism. In general, anyone who posts content in the public domain should accept that it comes with attention and criticism - just like a blogger/journalist/fitness guru (as some members seem to want to be) would receive. Some of it is going to be unfavorable or unwanted!

On the tattling issue, as far as I know, Mike is the only one making money off of this site. Why anyone else is working themselves into a rage over different members' comments is beyond me. Heck, if I got paid to report people for being mean, I would. But otherwise, I won't. What's there to gain but a heightened sense of self-righteousness? And does it make certain members feel good to "tattle-tale" on others? I really hope it's not anyone calling for us to "act like adults" who's running to Principal Mike.

On the tattling issue, as far as I know, Mike is the only one making money off of this site. Why anyone else is working themselves into a rage over different members' comments is beyond me. Heck, if I got paid to report people for being mean, I would. But otherwise, I won't. What's there to gain but a heightened sense of self-righteousness? And does it make certain members feel good to "tattle-tale" on others? I really hope it's not anyone calling for us to "act like adults" who's running to Principal Mike.

reads and refrains from commenting but silently agrees with Dave:glasses:

I guess others didn't because Dave was suspended for 7 days.

It's a shame someone can't express their opinions without getting into trouble even if those opinions aren't exactly "PC".

Oh well! :ohwell:

that sucks I liked Dave

So much for freedom of speech- or typing in that matter

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it

but this is Mike's web page so he rules

Y'know, I've stayed out of these rants in the past. But enuf is enuf!!

Everyone is at different stages of this getting healthy process. Some have an easier time at it than others. Just like some find flying a spaceship easier than others. And while I agree that this site and support require commitment, no one deserves to be talked down to. NONE, NOT ONE of us knows exactly what it's like for someone else on this journey, what particular challenges they face. And while some of us can vault over those obstacles, others stumble--again and again. This is not a character flaw. This is not that a person is bad. This is not that a person is not sufficiently dedicated to the cause. It's just that they/WE are humans and humans take time and practice to learn new things. Everyone learns at a different rate. And everyone learns in different ways. We are not dogs. We are people.

I'm a mom of three and much as i'd like to parent all 3 the same way, b/c it'd be faster and easier, the reality is that each child is unique and must be approached with that kind of respect. They are not quality controlled gadgets from a factory. Each one has different gifts and handicaps and rather than "boot camp" them into conforming to a single standard, my job as mother is to support with lovingkindness each one as he/she walks their path. I don't yell at my 8 year old for falling off her bike a bunch of times and that's even with the training wheels. I accept that is where she is for now, and gently encourage her to go forward, to challenge herself to reach the goal of independent bike riding. Again, I don't berate her for not having acquired a certain skill set. Instead, I lovingly guide her to the next step.

And that's what MFP is for, too. Some people just need a little help tweaking the great things they are doing. Like moving onto P90x from the Leslie Sansone series. And others are babies in this journey. They may KNOW they shouldn't eat/drink crap, they/we may know we need to move more, we/they may have dire health issues staring us right in the face--but implementing that knowledge, being able to execute on it takes time and practice. This is no different than when I remind my older girls that their little brother doesn't know or can't do xyz things yet--he's still new to the planet (2 years old). By the same token, some of us are new to the planet of committed, healthy living.

If you are not interested in being that kind of support or teacher, that's fine. Just don't read those posts-- the had a bad weekend ones, the i fell off the wagon ones. Just stay focused on your goals and the posts that are meaningful to you. And when you have something to share in a lovingly supportive way, put it out there.

I am very grateful for the MFP diaries, logs and boards. And I would hate for people to turn away from this site just b/c they are not yet at the top tier of commitment. Of course, it's ideal when people really make the changes that count, but even without that (yet), people should still be able to come to this site and find kindness, support, encouragement, challenges and respect.

So, this is a reminder to the long-timers and the short-timers who sometimes lose sight of that. And to all of MFP--we are strong, capable, treasured people who can reach our goals.
Thank you.

Before you take your next dump, you will read at least three threads about how someone NEEDS HELP...or how someone is SO DEPRESSED....all because what they really want is everyone to come running and say It's ok that you ate like a fat pig and "its ok that you cant stop eating ice cream or cake or cookies or any of that crap that you don't want to "deprive" yourself of.

What do you really want to do? Get fit? Get in shape? Or find people to enable your crap eating?

Oh...that is so mean Dave....you dont understand Dave.....why? what happened? did your Mom pull your hair when you were 6 years old? OH...sure that is a great reason to eat like a selfish pig when you are 25. Oh...your dog peed on your doll when you were 8? Eat like a zombie...,.its OK.

Are there valid reasons for over eating? Of course. But we have become a society of victims. We now have more "disorders" than girl scout cookies. Why didnt our parents and grandparents have all these "disorders"? Because they didnt have all this time to whine. They were working and eating regular food. Fat cow..skinny cow....fake butter...fake cookies ...fake pills,,,,,they never heard of such nonesense............QUIT IT!

You have a good reason to eat crap? Get over it. Sure, there are some real whackos here and everywhere. You want to lose weight? Quit eating crap. Simple as that. Oh...but we shouldnt deprive ourselves Dave. Who is it exactly that you are depriving? Quit fooling yourself. Wake up.

All these enablers wanting to be nice and sweet. Is that really the support you need? If our soldiers got tired and wanted to take a "cheat" day...would that be ok too?

This is a serious deal. Alot of you are facing diabetes or worse, Quit eating crap. This place is called my Fitness Pal...it is not called My Sympathy Pal...but that seems to be what alot of people want.

Before you attack me for not "understanding" this is exactly what I tell myself when I want to slack off. I repeat, I tell this to myself also. So dont give me your flack about not understanding the hidden excuses that are the real reason you won't stop "depriving" yourself.

Now,,,go take a healthy dump.

Self discipline is the only way.

Preggo BUMP!

Preggo BUMP!

On Dave's thread????? :noway: :noway:

I wasn't aware you two had even met. :noway:


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