What do I do to replace the tea/coffee w/ milk in my diet?

Are you using full fat milk? I assume so, and even then, you're having almost a litre of milk a day in coffee? Can you switch to 2%? Cut down the amount of milk you use?

anxietyfairy wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

Are you using full fat milk? I assume so, and even then, you're having almost a litre of milk a day in coffee? Can you switch to 2%? Cut down the amount of milk you use?

I switch between full fat and skim with calcium added (yellow cap in New Zealand). I don't think we have 2% available.

Milks labelled "Lite" tend to be 2%, there's a fair few on the NZ Woolworths site

Are you drinking latte style coffees? I assume so for consuming that amount of milk - can you go to black coffees with maybe 50ml milk added?

That a lot of coffee! There are low fat creamers as mentioned so just use one of those.

anxietyfairy wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

anxietyfairy wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

Are you using full fat milk? I assume so, and even then, you're having almost a litre of milk a day in coffee? Can you switch to 2%? Cut down the amount of milk you use?

I switch between full fat and skim with calcium added (yellow cap in New Zealand). I don't think we have 2% available.

Milks labelled "Lite" tend to be 2%, there's a fair few on the NZ Woolworths site

Are you drinking latte style coffees? I assume so for consuming that amount of milk - can you go to black coffees with maybe 50ml milk added?

I don't know what a latte style of coffee is. It's just milk, stevia and coffee.

By latte style, I mean not much coffee in the cup, and mostly milk (rather than adding milk to a cup of black coffee). How much milk do you add per cup of coffee?

Nestle is an international brand, we don't really get the creamer here in Australia and you probably won't in NZ. It's more an American thing.

Overall, I agree with Ann

Bottom line, there's no reason for you to need 500 calories in coffee drinks every day. Imagine if you got rid of that, that's one pound per week.

Lower fat milk, less of it, and fewer cups of coffee. Wait a while after waking before having one, and try to time it for when you actually need the boost, rather than just having it out of habit.

tomcustombuilder wrote: »

That a lot of coffee! There are low fat creamers as mentioned so just use one of those.

Really, not so much coffee, since (based on the calories) there's at least 2/3 cup of milk in each "cup of coffee" (assuming whole milk) -- so the OP's six "cups of coffee" is only two cups of actual coffee.

Sometimes, i add a couple tablespoons no added sugar hot cocoa mix. That and a dash of sugar free raspberry syrup was my fav raspberry mocha coffee drink for a long while. Now i use chocolate whey protein powder instead

Unless 0 cal, add-ins do have calories and can also help you meet other nutrition goals.

Otherwise, i also usually prefer to chew instead of drink my food other than my daily coffee and broth soups at some meals.

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

anxietyfairy wrote: »

I don't know if you can buy creamer in New Zealand. I guess I should look it up. I think Nestle is an Australian brand, so probably...

Maybe not. I know in the UK it's very hard to find. They have powder creamers which aren't as good imo. There, I think you can also get the "dairy" one serving tubs that you can find in hotel dining areas for instance, and which seem to last forever so I don't trust them. Here in the US, Nestle (and other brands) sell tons of flavors of liquid creamers in the 16oz and 32oz bottles.

35 calories per tablespoon, 25 in the fat-free version, 15 in the zero-sugar version. Whole milk, 9 calories per tablespoon. Skim milk, around 5 calories per tablespoon. I don't see the value proposition, calorie-wise, unless a person prefers the sweetened/flavored aspect. (A teaspoon of sugar would add 16 calories to any of the milk options.)

Ingredients (in the 35-calorie one): Water, sugar, vegetable oil (high oleic soybean and/or high oleic canola), and less than 2% of micellar casein (a milk derivative), mono and diglycerides, dipotassium phosphate, natural and artificial flavor, cellulose gel, cellulose gum, carrageenan.

Interestingly, fat-free has the same ingredients list, including the oil. Sugar free's second-listed ingredient is corn syrup ("which adds a trivial amount of sugar" according to the back of the label); it also adds artificial sweeteners sucralose and acesulfame potassium at the end of the ingredients.

Do I think that's a "bad food" because of any of that? Nah. But it goes some ways to explaining why I think it doesn't taste good, and has an unpleasant mouthfeel. That's just a personal taste thing, doesn't apply to others. I don't like sweet hot coffee, and even prefer the mouthfeel of skim milk over whole or 2%. I know that's weird.

Retroguy2000 wrote: »

AnnPT77 wrote: »

35 calories per tablespoon, 25 in the fat-free version, 15 in the zero-sugar version. Whole milk, 9 calories per tablespoon. Skim milk, around 5 calories per tablespoon. I don't see the value proposition, calorie-wise, unless a person prefers the sweetened/flavored aspect. (A teaspoon of sugar would add 16 calories to any of the milk options.)

Ingredients (in the 35-calorie one): Water, sugar, vegetable oil (high oleic soybean and/or high oleic canola), and less than 2% of micellar casein (a milk derivative), mono and diglycerides, dipotassium phosphate, natural and artificial flavor, cellulose gel, cellulose gum, carrageenan.

You're assuming everyone would use the same amount of milk or creamer, which is doubtful.

While you're correct about the creamer calories (I'll take your word for it), I once tracked my usage from a bottle and found I was having nearly 3x as many servings from the bottle as the nutrition label showed. Hence my much lower calorie amount I mentioned earlier. I remember being surprised at the time to learn that, since typically you'd expect serving sizes for the label to be on the small side. I cannot imagine putting nearly 3x as much creamer in a coffee than I already do.

That ingredients list is all Greek to me.

Not my intention (the bolded). Just putting the numbers out there for thought/discussion, since different people will prefer different amounts of either. I wouldn't guess.

I'm at minimum 2x 2 cups of coffee daily with 165g (about 2/3 cup) hot skim milk in each. That's a total of 112 calories (way more than 35!) and 11g of protein, and also my longtime taste-preference. I could get more protein by using a protein supplement in my coffee, but I think those are non-tasty, too, so I avoid them.

Everyone's going to have different preferences. For me, looking at data (nutrients and ingredients, in this case) is part of finding the best personal solution, alongside subjective factors like enjoyment. I think the creamer is very unpleasant, personally . . . a taste-preference others don't share, and that's completely fine.