Questions on weightlifting
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When you’re lifting weights do you always feel the muscles working that you want to work?
Like on certain exercises, lifting just feels ‘hard’ but I don’t necessarily feel it in specific muscles.
Like a bench press just feels overall hard but I don’t specifically feel my chest muscles getting fatigued or burning or anything. I just slowly can’t do any more reps (I go for 6-10 reps).
Does that mean I’m doing it wrong if I don’t feel that specific muscle working?
Like on certain exercises, lifting just feels ‘hard’ but I don’t necessarily feel it in specific muscles.
Like a bench press just feels overall hard but I don’t specifically feel my chest muscles getting fatigued or burning or anything. I just slowly can’t do any more reps (I go for 6-10 reps).
Does that mean I’m doing it wrong if I don’t feel that specific muscle working?
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Compound moves (like the bench press) which use multiple muscles working together sometimes makes it hard to mentally focus upon one muscle over another. Two people lifting the exact same weight, one person may have stronger chest but weaker triceps/shoulders, the other person the reverse. Are they doing it wrong? As long as their form is correct, nope, they are still working the muscles. You just may have a situation where the stronger muscle is automatically compensating for the weaker, whether you are aware of the difference or not.
One way to better focus upon a single muscle is to an exercise which uses only that muscle. For chest, that might be doing a fly motion, whether with DBs or cable attachments or a machine. When only one muscle is moving, it's easier to laser focus your thoughts upon it. Yes, compound movements are generally better in terms of getting the most overall benefit for your time, working lots of muscles together, able to lift heavier than with isolation movements. But isolation moves do have their place, and sometimes that place is to help establish a better brain-muscle connection.
Another idea is to make a small mental shift in what you are trying to accomplish with your lift. For example, most new lifters with bench press think the objective is simply to move the bar away from you, which the body will do by employing its strongest muscles to make it happen. But what if you think instead about "I am trying to bring my upper arms into my chest for a hug of my mama" or "bring my elbows closer together". The overall motion remains the same, but it helps the brain to think about the elbows moving, not the bar, which can better activate the chest muscle. I do something very similar with my back, where instead of pulling a weight/bar towards me I am mentally trying to move my elbow down or back, perhaps to hit the ribs of a mugger behind me. By doing this I can shift the focus from my strong biceps towards my still-growing back muscles.6 -
Thank you! That’s a great explanation.0
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To be pedantic for a moment, weightlifting refers to Olympic lifts, clean and snatch, etc. /s
Noss wrote an excellent post there.
Two things I'd recommend for you.
1) Check your form. I recommend Jonni Shreve's channel. Former pro bodybuilder, his main focus is form guides and he's really good at it. Here's one for bench press.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGWEiN3D7wI
2) Increase the reps for now. Going as low as 6 reps is closer to strength building range, and as noss said, your body will do whatever it can to make that weight move, including poor form or dangerous form potentially. Going to say 15 reps for a while will help you train the cues more and focus on the target muscle more.
Lastly, unless you need a specific lift for competitive reasons, it's also fine to use alternatives, e.g. dumbbell press, dumbbell or cable fly, or a machine press, etc.0 -
Retroguy2000 wrote: »To be pedantic for a moment, weightlifting refers to Olympic lifts, clean and snatch, etc. /s
Noss wrote an excellent post there.
Two things I'd recommend for you.
1) Check your form. I recommend Jonni Shreve's channel. Former pro bodybuilder, his main focus is form guides and he's really good at it. Here's one for bench press.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGWEiN3D7wI
2) Increase the reps for now. Going as low as 6 reps is closer to strength building range, and as noss said, your body will do whatever it can to make that weight move, including poor form or dangerous form potentially. Going to say 15 reps for a while will help you train the cues more and focus on the target muscle more.
Lastly, unless you need a specific lift for competitive reasons, it's also fine to use alternatives, e.g. dumbbell press, dumbbell or cable fly, or a machine press, etc.
I got really excited there for a moment and thought “ooo a weightlifting thread!!” But it isn’t. 🤣
I’ve stopped saying Olympic Weightlifting as people thought I had actually competed, rather than that being the actual name of my sport.
Oh well. Just me and my lonely C&j.1 -
claireychn074 wrote: »I’ve stopped saying Olympic Weightlifting as people thought I had actually competed, rather than that being the actual name of my sport.
Oh well. Just me and my lonely C&j.
Bugenhagen here, lol:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhpdun0pPI
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I never even heard of the Arthur lift before, and now that I have, I wish I still hadn't! lol Ye gods, it looks brutal!0
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Yeah, I'm not even trying it. Hilarious to watch though. It's a real thing too, lots of YT clips of it. Some doing over 300 pounds.
It's named after German guy Arthur Saxon. Old school, before racks etc.
Here's Bugenhagen doing 305 full lift incl ohp. I see some on YT doing more but not doing the ohp.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTtB37MszXs
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Oh, man, when he drops it post OHP and the one side sinks into the ground...lol Not only does my spine cringe at the thought of "walking" that weight from hips to shoulders, but I don't have nearly enough flexibility in my shoulders to simply get the weight into position for a squat, let alone an OHP as well. Man am I glad I didn't learn about this lift until I'd already been lifting for 15 years, or else it may have scared me away from the sport entirely! lol0
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Retroguy2000 wrote: »claireychn074 wrote: »I’ve stopped saying Olympic Weightlifting as people thought I had actually competed, rather than that being the actual name of my sport.
Oh well. Just me and my lonely C&j.
Bugenhagen here, lol:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhpdun0pPI
I’ve unintentionally done something similar, when I’ve done a kang squat, but the bar has slipped on the good morning portion so I’ve had to heave it up 🤣 but with 40kg only.0 -
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As far as my research and experience has shown me, it's all about starting with good form, being consistent with your program, then- and this might be most important, the mind-body connection.
I know it sounds weird, but I'm a psychologist so I did research on it and there's a decent body of research that suggests that thinking about the muscle or muscle group you are wanting to fire during each exercise, will actually increase the effect of that exercise. It takes time to build that neural pathway, but with, again, consistency- over time you will feel that target muscle or group during the exercise.
Hope this helps!0 -
I don’t think you’re doing it wrong. I just think you need consistency.0
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