LESS Alcohol ~ July 2025 ~ One Day at A Time

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  • itladyee
    itladyee Posts: 7,494 Member

    @SparkSpringtime69, I’m thinking that maybe MissMay may not have been comfortable enough in the environment to create a group. But I could be wrong

    My initial concern was that people would have to join to view and read, but by keeping it public, anyone can view, read, they only need to join if they wish to actively post.

    I do want people to be able to visit, see our dialogue and then decide if they want to participate in the group.

    I don’t think you have to join to see who’s is the group. You only need to join to post comments. @LittleSurferGirl7

  • LittleSurferGirl7
    LittleSurferGirl7 Posts: 1,173 Member
    edited July 26

    @SparkSpringtime69 I personally like it being a discussion because that way anyone just scrolling through the discussions can chime in at any time and they may have some useful information. Some may not want to join a group. I believe that's why MissMay continued it that way.

    @itladyee I was typing while you posted. I still don't see the reason to make it a group. I guess most of the groups that I checked out were private because I was unable to see the members or posts without joining.

    Even if I could read the posts before joining, I probably would not join the group just to post a simple idea or experience. Just my two cents!

  • LittleSurferGirl7
    LittleSurferGirl7 Posts: 1,173 Member

    Oh, also, I'm not sure if this helps at all. But, I believe that someone posted that this discussion used to be in the challenges category. But, it was later changed to discussions, so people wouldn't feel like they were competing against one another. But, were here to give each other support.

  • Michieb125
    Michieb125 Posts: 1,303 Member

    …..

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/48702713#Comment_48702713

    I do like hearing it’s still kept in public view so anyone can read in advance and decide if they want to join and participate.
    I imagine a group could even provide a greater sense of commitment for those abstaining or moderating as it is different than a general discussion.
    Thanks for opening up the dialog.

  • SparkSpringtime69
    SparkSpringtime69 Posts: 1,440 Member

    @Fursian how did you get the gray bars to the left of the text you wanted to quote. It's been really frustrating me that I can't separate out a few sentences or a paragraph that I want to respond to without quoting a much longer post. Thanks for any help.

  • Fursian
    Fursian Posts: 635 Member

    @itladyee I think an open group is an interesting idea. Having all the information and resources in one place for everyone and being able to look back through past monthly threads sounds like it could be a quality of life addition. A disadvantage maybe, would be that the nature of groups is very ‘out of sight out of mind’, with the real potential of dividing (some people thrive in groups, some not so much), but promoting the group each month in this sub-category like other groups do could make this less of an issue.

    A plus point having the LA threads as an open discussion here in the forums is the visibility, I see them as more accessible to those old and new. I don’t see any harm in testing things out, though.

    If I may make a suggestion, I see the benefits of each. If it wouldn’t be too much up-keep (I’d quite understand if it was), having this thread AND an open group could be the best of both worlds. I can visualize there being a handy link back to the LA group within each new month’s opening post. The opening posts could give a nod to all the useful information and resources for those interested in learning more (I know I was), which could offer a solution to streamlining the LA threads. I like your idea of the mini challenges as well, and could see the potential with them for people.

    @SparkSpringtime69 For now until the new format starts to make sense to me, I am just highlighting the bits of people’s posts that I want to quote and then copy/pasting into the ‘Leave a Comment’ box and then clicking on the Element Toolbar symbol that’s located to the left of the reply box, this opens up four menus, with the third one (Toggle Special Formats Menu) being where the quote function is. Selecting the quote symbol should place the grey bars. I’ve not figured out how to put the person’s username along with their quote like how we could with the old quoting function, I feel like I am missing something obvious, lol. I am using the website version of MFP.

  • SparkSpringtime69
    SparkSpringtime69 Posts: 1,440 Member

    July:

    AF=11
    A=15

  • SparkSpringtime69
    SparkSpringtime69 Posts: 1,440 Member
    edited July 27

    @Michieb125

    Congratulations on reaching your targets this month! You should feel very proud.

    BTW - Any way you can send some of that 'cool summer' to SC, we're in an extreme heat warning today, with temps in the high 90's and a heat index putting us at 110.

    We've been dealing with this for a couple of weeks now, almost every day. ☀️🔥

  • SparkSpringtime69
    SparkSpringtime69 Posts: 1,440 Member

    @NonnieDoiron Those pastries look delicious!!

    We're currently 95, feels like 109, so yeah, he**ishly hot…

  • itladyee
    itladyee Posts: 7,494 Member

    @NonnieDoiron OMG…those pastries look awesome, recipes please…… yummmm

  • itladyee
    itladyee Posts: 7,494 Member
    edited July 28

    Here we go!!! I’ve put together my vision of what a group would look like for Less Alcohol.

    The only thing that would need to be done each month (and can be done in advance) is to create the new month in discussions.

    We can enhance the announcements over time with content from prior and future months.

    Take a look around. I have created an area for you to post feedback in the group. Please post there, not here….

    I have also added a few posts for new people who may stumble upon the group while we are in deciding mode as it is a public group.

    There are a couple of announcements that will be deleted if we decide to move forward with this format.

    It’s about 80% complete but I wanted to get feed back now, before I start to fine tune.

    Feel free to post under July for testing purposes….

    Here's the link: aka Test drive!

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/148292-less-alcohol-one-day-at-a-time-under-construction

    @LittleSurferGirl7
    @chicbuc
    @barabaradem
    @SparkSpringtime69
    @NonnieDoiron
    @BurnMode05
    @nbruns83
    @Michieb125
    @SparkSpringtime69
    @globalhiker
    @Womona
    @tmbg1

    @dvmmcw7442

    @tiff8083

    @Walela617

    @Fursian

    @Jthanmyfitnesspal

    @looneycatblue

    @carlabisong

  • LittleSurferGirl7
    LittleSurferGirl7 Posts: 1,173 Member
    edited July 28

    @itladyee I know you're going through a lot of work to change this discussion. And, we all appreciate it. But, why are you so intent on turning this into a "Group"?

    I know this is a work in progress. But, under "Announcements", there is a section for feedback from existing members. But, there is no way to post.

    The most important things for me…the benefits from cutting back or quitting alcohol have been moved to the very end. And, you purposely have to click on it to see them. One thing that was never put in that section, but should be, is that alcohol is classified as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer. Why would you try to hide all of the risks of drinking alcohol and the benefits of cutting down or quitting drinking alcohol from people who are considering drinking less alcohol?

    Anyways, I'm a no on the change. I've only been in this discussion for a year or so. But, it has been going on since, I believe 2017? I'll most likely stop participating.

    What I've always said is, "If it ain't broke…don't fix it!"

    Sorry for the candor!

  • NonnieDoiron
    NonnieDoiron Posts: 500 Member

    I did finish the bottle of wine I bought for cooking last night, but I planned on it. It was only 2 glasses, but the way I poured it made it appear to be 3. I didn’t mean to pour a half glass on the first one (menopause brain fog kicked in); but I did which ended up being a half glass, full glass, and half glass. It was weird, but it satisfied that 3rd glass desire. After I did that, I was satisfied. I wasn’t wishing I had more.

    Count is now AF-23, A-4.

    Today will be AF, and probably the rest of the week. My son gets his wisdom teeth removed Tuesday, so I’ve taken off work for the day to take care of him. It’s my 1st day off since being in this new role. I’m actually using PTO instead of comp time, so I don’t feel obligated to get in front of my computer at any point during the day. We’ll see what Wednesday looks like after a day off… this could deter me from using PTO in the future. I’m afraid to see how many emails pile up in one day.

  • itladyee
    itladyee Posts: 7,494 Member

    @LittleSurferGirl7

    I stated advantages to doing a group earlier when I first suggested the group concept, the main ones are:

    **No more copying and pasting the intro each month— saved time! With the change made to MFP back in March, copying and pasting can be quite the pain to get things all organized and consistent, bullet and font size, etc. Possibly it’s just a me thing, but I like it when things are consistent and easy to read. I can literally set it and forget it….

    **Resources and links are always available at the top via announcements. You don’t have to flip back to prior pages to find something. The information is always right there in announcements.

    **Easier to look back at past months if we ever want to reflect or reference something. Easier to find something. You mentioned alcohol as a carcinogen…perfect example. I don’t remember when that was mentioned but 1) it was never added because it wasn't easy to go back and add to those first few pages and by the time the next month was created, it was forgotten. It can now be added in real time announcements. Do you recall when that was posted so I can gather all of the information in its entirety?

    **Keeps everything contained and organized in one place.

    But, under "Announcements", there is a section for feedback from existing members. But, there is no way to post. As stated in the intro, you have to join to post, otherwise it’s view only.

    1)The most important things for me…the benefits from cutting back or quitting alcohol have been moved to the very end. 2)And, you purposely have to click on it to see them. 3)One thing that was never put in that section, but should be, is that alcohol is classified as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer. 4)Why would you try to hide all of the risks of drinking alcohol and the benefits of cutting down or quitting drinking alcohol from people who are considering drinking less alcohol?

    1)The areas under the announcement are auto sorted by MFP. I can play around with it but may not be able to control how they are listed. It’s probably at the end because it was the first thing that I added. I may be able to “trick” the system for ordering reasons.

    2) yes, you do have the click the announcement. vs scroll back pages to find.

    3)Exactly, one of the reasons for the group. Easier to add new information and findings for people to find at a later time.

    4) Not hiding anything.

    I won’t be making the decision; it will be a group decision. If the majority does not like it, then nothing will change. It was just an idea that I wanted to explore.

    You are correct, this discussion has been around since 2017 as noted in the intro. The intention isn’t to fix what isn’t broken, but to make the space more welcoming, functional, and easier to navigate for long-time members and new people as well as simple to maintain.

    Appreciate the candor.

    @NonnieDoiron , you are still doing very well!! Good luck with the wisdom teeth removal and good for you to step away from the computer!

  • tmbg1
    tmbg1 Posts: 1,628 Member

    15 AF

    3 LA

    9 A

    I really like these discussion threads and I don't really know how groups work but I'll give it a go if that's what folks want 😊

  • LittleSurferGirl7
    LittleSurferGirl7 Posts: 1,173 Member

    @itladyee I don't understand why copying and pasting is so time consuming.

    I had mentioned in another discussion (challenge) that every time that I copy and paste my stats from my Word document to the discussion that everything is double-spaced, whereas in my Word document they are not. I keep my stats on a Word document so I don't have to re-type everything each week.

    Another member replied: "@LittleSurferGirl7 When you right click to paste , look for the option just under "paste" that says "paste as plain text". Use that and it will be single spaced. It will not take away any graphics, emoji's, bold, italics, size change or anything else you have used in the lines."

    I was using "Control" + "V". Once I used "paste as plain text"…Viola! Everything was exactly how I had typed it on my Word document.

    As far as the announcements and previous months posts being listed at the top of each page, it seems that would take up a lot of space. I like to go back several days at times to catch up with everyone. If all that info is at the top of every page…that's a lot of scrolling.

    Also, I can't speak for others. But, when I first found this discussion, after the 2nd month or so, I never read the intro stuff again. I imagine a lot of the long-time members are like me.

    Anyways, since I don't want to join the group just to post, I'll just reiterate here that I prefer discussions over groups.

    But, as with everything…all good things come to an end. I guess it's time to move on!

  • Michieb125
    Michieb125 Posts: 1,303 Member

    Good luck with the wisdom teeth appointment for your son today @NonnieDoiron - I usually pour my wine similarly to your example from last night! Or in 3-4 oz pours. Feels like 3 but it IS Less :).

    Thanks for sharing your vision to create an organized and functional thread for this dedicated Less Alcohol community @itladyee

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