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Sorry, I'm right there with you on the job thing! It can be depressing, but I'm grateful to have a job and do something that I enjoy.
Yes, re-heated meat can be dry and gross. Do you like something like casseroles? For example, any cut of boneless, skinless chicken in a baking pan with a bag of frozen corn, either frozen or canned beans (any kind you like) and a jar or two of salsa? Meat with sauce tastes much better reheated and you can do this without pasta. Or add in a layer or two of corn tortillas for a bit of "carby" texture.
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how clean is your fridge? I know that sounds obvious, but could it be tainting your leftovers?
I can’t imagine leftover steak not being good, and I can eat grilled chicken or smoked pork for days. It’s never dry and always delicious.
I’m going to tap out now with the observation that, if you’re determined to fail, then fail you will.
I got no more advice. Lucky you!
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How to you store cooked meat from not being dried out like steak and reheated? What I have done is after the initial cook, put the meat in either a Tupperware container or zip lock bag.
The next day to reheat either in the stove or oven it’s dry and tough. This goes for any non sauced meat.
Meatballs buried in tomato sauce are tolerable as the sauce is adding moisture and flavor. I have done with plain meatballs with no sauce and they are bricks the next day.
Even turkey when smoked the day is good (3 hours to cook) the next day just dried out bland tasting.
I have reheated pulled pork but needed lots of bbq sauce to keep moist. Trying to avoid that fatty meat and sauce to keep healthy.
I was wondering if I can just dump a piece of frozen chicken, pork chop, or steak in a frying pan with a bag of frozen vegetables and cook for 15 minutes. How would that taste? Probably bland.
I need to learn to no like food period I guess. Food is probably the only relaxing/enjoyable thing in the evening. Coming home from a stress filled day to eat something I don’t like is the problem. Because after dinner it’s nothing to enjoy until I fall asleep. Tv or a movie helps keep some of my thoughts of life for a while.
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Grant me some grace for being opinionated- I’m a 77 year old lady so take this for what it is it’s worth rl2010. I hear you expressing all the ways this can’t work for you. What are you willing to do to make it work?
First, you need to realize that you can’t lose weight and then happily return to your previous eating habits. The weight comes back with friends. This took me 50 years of yo-yo loss/regain to accept. One hundred pounds back and forth! While you lose weight you must accept new maintenance eating habits- things you can sustain daily. Then you can keep your weight down without making yourself crazy.
You speak of lots of things you can’t or won’t tolerate eating. Work on finding things you can tolerate. Maybe the same breakfast every day? Packing a lunch? Batch cooking on weekends. Every meal does NOT have to be a celebration or feast or even delicious. Fill the belly and move on.
Definitely work on portion control. If half portions are too small how about 3/4 portions? After a while of cutting back, full plates are too much. Really! The stomach adjusts. I began to routinely fill my plate and then remove half - put it in a container for later. Tomorrow’s lunch. Yeah sometimes you gotta do leftovers - they won’t kill you.To sum it up - it all comes down to how badly you want this and are willing to compromise. Obviously you can go on doing the same things, rejecting options and trying to hang on to your current eating preferences. However it’s going to take some sustained changes that you can live with because it ain’t magic!
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Putting a frozen piece of meat in a frying pan would completely change the texture, and NOT for the better. If you have thawed meat and want to cook that in a pan with vegetables, of course it will be bland until you season it!
It sounds like you like restaurant food, so have you tried looking up recipes for those dishes and then use the spices and seasonings they use?
It also sounds like you are depressed. I'm sorry if you've already addressed it, but if not, perhaps a doctor's visit and evaluation may help. I think you said you have kids, so being there for them is as important as it is to take care of yourself. Hope something works for you soon.
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Sorry you're being defeatist. Another take out night 1500-3000 calories? How about a couple low fat high protein yogurts, an apple and a small bowl of non-sugared cereal. 30 seconds to prepare and 500 or so calories.
There are solutions, you're just not looking for them IMO.
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My thoughts also. The commute is what stood out to me as a big barrier to having time to exercise or cook. Also the alcohol. When I did WW online, so many people on there said they finally ditched alcohol entirely just from the calories alone. It sounds like a coping mechanism.
Do you enjoy your life? If the job isn't worth the two hour commute, can you move closer, find another job, or work remotely 2-3 days a week?
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I will add that I went on a cruise for our 10th anniversary and it took something like 6 weeks to get back to my previous healthy eating habits. When I traveled this summer, I was much more careful not to go wild with eating so re-entry to my normal life would be easier.
Here's what "fit me" would tell the me of 10 years ago: priorize protein and fiber. Don't make any changes you can't stick with long term.
You've mentioned chicken Caesar salad in several posts. That's probably the salad with the most fat and calories out of the 6-8 ready- made salads my Walmart carries: about 550 calories compared to the fiesta chicken salad, which is about 300 calories per container. Day in, day out, that leaner choice makes an impact.
If you want absolute control over your portions, get a food scale from Amazon and set it to grams. That has worked for me! Also I carry protein bars in my car so I'm never stuck for a quick snack or meal.
I don't eat out much these days: too expensive and not worth it in dollars or calories. But that's a decision you'll have to make for yourself.
All kinds of people in really difficult situations have lost weight, and you can do it too when it becomes important enough.
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I highly recommend "Half Size Me" on YouTube, There are playlists on it too. There's too much for me to share about it here. It's worth checking it out
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OP unfortunately your attitude seems to have gone back to 'woe is me, I caaant'
change isn't easy and it is ok to have relapses along the way
But if you are not prepared to change anything and see everything as impossible- then nothing will change.
you don't have to white knuckle through extreme conditions but you do need to accept some minor discomfort eg feeling a bit peckish but delaying food, feeling a bit tired but making effort to exercise or cook, feeling a bit apprehensive but willing to try new foods.
not realistic to expect weight loss with no changes or effort on your part.
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Honestly, this really is your decision. I feel empathy because it seems like the tradeoffs you're facing are similar to a place I was at a few years back.
On one side of the possibilities, there's sticking with a comfortable, long-term routine that has short-term rewards of yummy food, enjoyable drinks, relaxation/distractions that are long-established ways to manage overall life stress . . . but that in the long run results in poorer health markers, physical challenges/discomfort, and probably higher odd of illness and early death after (probably) a long and fairly miserable decline into worse physical symptoms then fatal disease.
On the other side, there seems to be short-term unpleasantness: Less of the familiar yummy eating routine, cutting out or down on the seemingly mood-smoothing alcohol, overcoming current fitness limitations to move more (which can feel miserable and difficult in the moment), plus the annoyance and effort required to analyze and change long-term established easy-seeming habits.
Change is inherently disruptive, inherently hard. The expectation is long-term improvement, being healthier, feeling better, and living longer with better quality of life as well . . . but man, it seems really distant and honestly kind of unreal or theoretical.
Why give up all the obvious short term goodness to get long term theoretical benefits?
That's the personal question. Only you can decide what you want most. Only you can decide what short-run comfort or pleasure you can set aside in the hope of long-term improvements. We can maybe give you "how to do it" ideas, but if the question is still "whether to do it", we can't give you that. The closest we can get is "why we did it", assuming we did.
This is a thing I waded through myself, as an undisciplined, aging-hippie, hedonistic kind of person. If I knew what finally flipped the switch in my head, I'd bottle and sell it, make millions. But finally it did flip. Thankfully it did flip: That's my profoundly felt opinion for me.
Make pros and cons list, maybe. Decide.
For me, I discovered through trial and error - experiments, not all successful - that there was a better balance available when I truly committed to finding it: An enjoyable way of eating that was still calorie-appropriate, ways to reduce stress, ways to socialize happily, ways to have fun through more movement . . . and voilà, long term better health and fitness, and much better overall quality of life.
YMMV, because it's your mileage, your decision.
P.S. You were making good progress - really good progress - for a while there toward your long term goals. What changed? It feels like it was your mindset. This is my bias: The most powerful levers for making change in my life are the factors I personally control. I control my mindset . . . or can control it, even if I need some help sometimes in finding the reins and driving in a positive direction.
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what changed? One we went on vacation and two eating low/no carb can only last so long. Eating the same things over and over again got aggravating and needed more variety.
just eating bare meat and some vegetables was not lasting. Plain Burgers with no bun, cold cuts without bread, zero pasta, no starchy vegetables, meatballs and meatloaf without breadcrumbs (just not good), grilled chicken (cardboard), salads with tons of zero carb( high calorie and fat) dressings, occasional steak, eggs, cheese, pickles, sausage, Yes I forced myself to eat that way. Managed to eat out allot but basically ordering plain meat or fish with nothing else.And once you go off low/no carb even for one meal. The cravings for carb foods are bad.
The progress I had showed some weight loss on the scale and some clothes fitting better but not great. Did not feel better as far as energy. Strength, sleeping still a mess. Stopped lifting weights as I messed up and hurt my upper back to add to the lower back walking pains. Never got more than 7 minutes on the exercise bike without being wiped out. Still totally out of breath walking the one flight of stairs or getting dressed.All of these factors are telling me the low carb eating dropped some weight but not enough to correct health issues. 5 months I did this, maybe I need to wait 5 years of doing it before feeling better. I know I did not get this heavy or poor health in weeks. I would think 14% weight loss would make me feel better. Maybe I am overreaching hoping to find a miracle.
At 53 maybe I could lose weight and just the health will remain in the state it is in without improving. Lungs can’t recover, had sleep apnea for over 20 years (even weighing 220) so weight is not fixing that, always congested - no reason so no cure. Maybe I have to accept that and not look for changing that. Just hopefully drop weight for the scale.
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You managed to lose a decent amount of weight, so you know you can do it. But you have to want to. We can offer all the advice in the world, but only you can take it on board and do something to change your situation. Whilst you get your head back into that way of thinking and start pushing away all the negativity and defeatist attitude, knowing that you have succeeded before and can do so again, perhaps consider just eating smaller portions of your regular meals. At least you know you like the food.
You mention burgers, meatballs, meatloaf and sausages but I don't see much mention of vegetables or anything that has fibre. No fruit? No seeds? No nuts?
Reading what you eat vs what I eat made me smile, as some of what you're describing is me about 10 years ago. All of my changes were gradual, but I can't imagine going back to my old diet…
bare meat and some vegetables was not lasting - I typically eat plain meat and a plateful of vegetables; this evening I had a pork loin steak with mushrooms & onion (sauted in 10g butter), 200g sauted cabbage and some peas. Total calories for the entire meal was under 600. The mushrooms and onions gave each bite some flavour. If I'm having a steak, I'll again have mushrooms, onion and peas but often won't bother with the cabbage although I may cut a tomato in two and grill it. With tasty veg on the side, the meal doesn't have to be boring and bland.
Plain Burgers with no bun - it's the only way I eat burgers now, but I'd have a lot of salad stuff with it (and no fries). How about just having half a bun and ditch the top half?
cold cuts without bread - why not have cold cuts with a mound of salad? what sort of bread do you eat?and how much?
zero pasta, no starchy vegetables - I pretty much cut out rice, pasta, potatoes and bread a few years ago, unless I'm eating out, and load my plate with veg instead as I can fill myself up on fewer calories that way and simultaneously consume more fibre.
meatballs and meatloaf without breadcrumbs (just not good) - I'm in the UK and don't know what meatloaf is (I'm guessing you're not referring to the now-deceased rock singer), so can only go by a picture from a quick Google search, but are there really that many breadcrumbs in that it'd make that much difference if you had this with a plate of filling veg? Do you make your own tomato sauce for the meatballs?
grilled chicken (cardboard) - I've never eaten cardboard chicken. Grilling chicken successfully is difficult unless it's a universal thickness, so I almost always bake it (in a dish surrounded by sliced onion, quartered tomato pieces, courgette chunks, sprinkled with oregano, garlic and a little balsamic vinegar plus some spritzes of low-cal oil = approx 360 cals). It takes approx 30 mins at 190 degrees and the tomato juices, garlic and vinegar help keep the chicken moist. Served on a bed of cabbage that's under 500 cals for the entire meal.
salads with tons of zero carb (high calorie and fat) dressings - I don't eat most dressings anyway, as I don't really like them, but a small amount of infused oil goes a long way. Experiment.
occasional steak, eggs, cheese, pickles, sausage - I eat steak every few weeks and eggs & cheese daily - but I'm within my calories each day. Consider pre-logging so you can see how your planned meals will affect your calories, before you start eating.
You clearly like minced meat - how about making a bolognese or a chill and bulking it out with veg and lentils? That can be frozen in portion sizes, taken out of the freezer in the morning and will re-heat without issue. If you have a slow cooker, you can prep the night before (even with the TV on in the background), throw everything into the slow cooker in the morning and leave it simmering away all day. You don't like eating cooked chicken the next day as it's dried out - why not chop it up and toss it into a home-made vegetable mix. Saute chopped tomatoes, mushrooms, chopped onion, courgette (zucchini) and a pinch of chilli or herbs and/or garlic for some flavour then add the chicken to properly heat it through. That sauce can also be batch cooked and frozen. How about stirfries with lots of vegetables? You can use chicken, beef, prawns etc - just get them out of the freezer in the morning and they'll be defrosted by the time you get home. A splash of soy sauce and a sprinkling of Thai / Chinese spices would liven it up without adding a huge amount of calories and that'll also reheat well. It probably takes less than 20 mins to prep and cook.
When I started, I began with reducing my portions but carried on eating the same foods. And logged everything. Then I looked at what was calorie dense and hunted for substitutes. I've forgotten what you called your zucchini alternative to pasta, but I tried courgetti and soon gave up as it's pretty grim. Instead, I'd have a much smaller portion of pasta (but I started using wholewheat pasta) and bulked it out with chopped courgette and other veg for volume instead. Now I rarely even do that and just have a plate of sauted cabbage as my base to almost everything. Sure the cabbage takes time to finely cut and then takes 20+ mins to saute, but I make a large panful that'll do three meals. It reheats just fine and works with pretty much everything I ever make.
I went lowish carb because I had to - a diabetes T2 diagnosis forced me to face reality. I was determined that I wasn't going on medication and to reverse the blood sugar levels via diet meant actually changing my diet. However, I haven't cut carbs out completely and nor have I tried but, per something I eventually found on the Diabetes UK site, I stay under 130g of carbs a day. Vegetables and salads fill me up and are lower in both carbs and calories than a similar pile of rice, pasta etc.; they're also higher in fibre. I started with gradually reducing the rice etc and increasing the veg, rather than shocking my system by trying too much at once.
With logging, some things are a best effort, but you can make that effort if you want to. You know the sort of things you're having from the deli when you order your lunch at work, so look at equivalents in the supermarket and at home to make an educated guess as to how much each element weighs. Overestimate a little. Will that be a perfect match for the ingredients the deli uses? No. Will it be better than just shrugging your shoulders and saying "I don't know, this is too hard to work out"? Yes. I eat out multiple times a week and very few places in the UK give nutritional info on their menu so it's very much a best effort basis - but practice makes perfect (or something close), so I can take a good guess as to how much chicken was used, how much lettuce, how heavy that jacket potato probably is etc. That didn't all happen on day 1.
Where do you want to be in 6 months? Looking back and thinking "wow, I weigh less than I did in August" or still sitting there, eating the same foods and saying "I can only eat burgers, chips, meatloaf and salad with loads of calorie dense dressing" and weighing the same as you do now or more?
The only person who can actually do this for you is you.
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so, low carb is not for you.
I t is a good fit for some people- I am not one of them either and seems neither are you.
But you dont have to go low carb to lose weight - you just have to eat less than you burn. CICO
Vacations can cause setbacks - not neccesarily if you plan ahead - but they are usually short term. Get back home, get back on the wagon.
Not a reason to give up or go backwards.
some things may not recover - some lung damage, pancreas damage etc may be ireversible, you cant go back to the beginning - but you can improve and losing weight will help your medical conditions and your overall long term and short term health.
Build up from where you are at - either i n time or frequency - ie if 7 minutes is your bike limit now, aim for 8 minutes by end of the month. or do 5 minutes twice a day.
If you change nothing, nothing changes
But on the other hand changing small things means progressive change over time - ie be realistic. Don't expect that small changes will have immediate big outcomes either.
They won't - but over time you can progressively build them up and see long term progressive change if you keep them up and are moving forward.
at the moment it seems you are not doing that.🙁
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Thank you all. Your help/tips were all good.
Unfortunately I am unable to overcome my demons. This will never work and I have decided to give up on trying to become something I am not. I’ll let it ride and someday some may benefit from insurance. Constant worrying about weight and health has run its course and something I simply can not change.
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I feel sad that you feel this way.
I hope you find a good therapist so you can tackle your demons—your mind matters. Your body matters. You matter.7 -
Hope the feeling has passed... Feelings come and go. Get up and keep trying. By you, for you.
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this website has 150 low carb recipes . It also has the calorie & nutritional info- as long as you weigh the food (I like to weigh in grams) should be helpful for counting.
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This will never work and I have decided to give up on trying to become something I am not
Self fulfilling prophecy then.
It could work if you let it and keep trying - but it won't if you don't.
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Get an instapot. You can dump frozen meat in an instapot. I'm really not trying to be mean, but right now it seems like you're just not ready. Maybe someday you will be. You'll have to decide that for yourself.
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