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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Also on diet soda:
    Diabetes Care. 2009 Apr;32(4):688-94. Epub 2009 Jan 16.
    Diet soda intake and risk of incident metabolic syndrome and type 2 diabetes in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis (MESA).
    Nettleton JA, Lutsey PL, Wang Y, Lima JA, Michos ED, Jacobs DR Jr.
    SourceDivision of Epidemiology, University of Texas Health Sciences Center, Houston, Texas, USA. jennifer.a.nettleton@uth.tmc.edu

    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE: We determined associations between diet soda consumption and risk of incident metabolic syndrome, its components, and type 2 diabetes in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis.

    RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS: Diet soda consumption was assessed by food frequency questionnaire at baseline (2000-2002). Incident type 2 diabetes was identified at three follow-up examinations (2002-2003, 2004-2005, and 2005-2007) as fasting glucose >126 mg/dl, self-reported type 2 diabetes, or use of diabetes medication. Metabolic syndrome (and components) was defined by National Cholesterol Education Program Adult Treatment Panel III criteria. Hazard ratios (HRs) with 95% CI for type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and metabolic syndrome components were estimated, adjusting for demographic, lifestyle, and dietary confounders.

    RESULTS: At least daily consumption of diet soda was associated with a 36% greater relative risk of incident metabolic syndrome and a 67% greater relative risk of incident type 2 diabetes compared with nonconsumption (HR 1.36 [95% CI 1.11-1.66] for metabolic syndrome and 1.67 [1.27-2.20] for type 2 diabetes). Of metabolic syndrome components, only high waist circumference (men >or=102 cm and women >or=88 cm) and high fasting glucose (>or=100 mg/dl) were prospectively associated with diet soda consumption. Associations between diet soda consumption and type 2 diabetes were independent of baseline measures of adiposity or changes in these measures, whereas associations between diet soda and metabolic syndrome were not independent of these factors.

    CONCLUSIONS: Although these observational data cannot establish causality, consumption of diet soda at least daily was associated with significantly greater risks of select incident metabolic syndrome components and type 2 diabetes.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19151203

    I have to point out the one major flaw in this study, in case it isn't obvious to others. People with, or at risk of diabetes or other insulin resistance diseases are most likely already drinking diet sodas because of their condition, in an attempt to control blood sugar levels, not that drinking diet sodas led to the condition.

    I don't think that's necessarily a flaw in the study, but it is why this study fails to show that diet sodas raise the risk of developing diabetes. Risk of developing a disease and risk of incidence of the diesease are not the same thing.
  • msstillion79
    msstillion79 Posts: 142
    Ok i didnt want to start a fight anyway for bcattoes i know about tea and it makes me sick i just wanted to let people know what i found and i will be cautious about the headaches please dont fight as for diabetics and diet soda u can drink it but in moderation that is from my dietian k and my choice of drinkin flavored water is because i feel so tired after drinkin pop and cause of acid refex.
  • shagybear33
    shagybear33 Posts: 272
    If your urine is dark then you need more hydration.

    If it's pale and/or straw colored than you are getting enough fluids.

    I have a friend who drinks only coffee all day long.....urine is dark yellow and smelly...

    I drink coffee all day long, but alternate each cup with a cup of water...........urine is very pale yellow.

    if you can drink juice, tea, coffee etc all day and have pale urine, then you're ok.

    just my two cents. :D
  • kmbrooks15
    kmbrooks15 Posts: 941 Member
    You didn't start a fight, so don't worry about that. I'm sorry you can't drink tea...I love tea! I'm glad you found something you like, though. The important thing is that you're getting fluids, and if you find something that makes it taste better, you're more likely to drink what you need. I'm still struggling with getting my "8 cups" in every day. That's harder than eating right, I think!
  • Laura32412
    Laura32412 Posts: 23
    I tried the iced tea flavor and couldn't stand it. It was actually too sweet for me, but I'm an unsweetened tea person. I've found that making iced green tea (unsweetened of course) at work helps me get my water in for the day since I hate drinking plain water. I'm sorry, but water does have a taste and it's not good. I also do lemon in my water at home and I find it makes me drink more water - maybe because of the tartness?
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Also on diet soda:
    Diabetes Care. 2009 Apr;32(4):688-94. Epub 2009 Jan 16.
    Diet soda intake and risk of incident metabolic syndrome and type 2 diabetes in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis (MESA).
    Nettleton JA, Lutsey PL, Wang Y, Lima JA, Michos ED, Jacobs DR Jr.
    SourceDivision of Epidemiology, University of Texas Health Sciences Center, Houston, Texas, USA. jennifer.a.nettleton@uth.tmc.edu

    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE: We determined associations between diet soda consumption and risk of incident metabolic syndrome, its components, and type 2 diabetes in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis.

    RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS: Diet soda consumption was assessed by food frequency questionnaire at baseline (2000-2002). Incident type 2 diabetes was identified at three follow-up examinations (2002-2003, 2004-2005, and 2005-2007) as fasting glucose >126 mg/dl, self-reported type 2 diabetes, or use of diabetes medication. Metabolic syndrome (and components) was defined by National Cholesterol Education Program Adult Treatment Panel III criteria. Hazard ratios (HRs) with 95% CI for type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and metabolic syndrome components were estimated, adjusting for demographic, lifestyle, and dietary confounders.

    RESULTS: At least daily consumption of diet soda was associated with a 36% greater relative risk of incident metabolic syndrome and a 67% greater relative risk of incident type 2 diabetes compared with nonconsumption (HR 1.36 [95% CI 1.11-1.66] for metabolic syndrome and 1.67 [1.27-2.20] for type 2 diabetes). Of metabolic syndrome components, only high waist circumference (men >or=102 cm and women >or=88 cm) and high fasting glucose (>or=100 mg/dl) were prospectively associated with diet soda consumption. Associations between diet soda consumption and type 2 diabetes were independent of baseline measures of adiposity or changes in these measures, whereas associations between diet soda and metabolic syndrome were not independent of these factors.

    CONCLUSIONS: Although these observational data cannot establish causality, consumption of diet soda at least daily was associated with significantly greater risks of select incident metabolic syndrome components and type 2 diabetes.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19151203

    I have to point out the one major flaw in this study, in case it isn't obvious to others. People with, or at risk of diabetes or other insulin resistance diseases are most likely already drinking diet sodas because of their condition, in an attempt to control blood sugar levels, not that drinking diet sodas led to the condition.

    Did you actually read the study?

    I can also link more if you'd like.
    Based on their abstract there, they didn't establish whether any of the people involved in the study had Diabetes before they established if they drank diet soda. If 100 people with diabetes drink diet soda, and I establish first that they drink diet soda, and then later establish that they have diabetes, how can I show any attempt at causality when I didn't establish whether they had diabetes or not before they drank diet soda?

    The only possible way to do it is to take individuals that don't have Diabetes or drink diet soda, make them start drinking diet soda, and then wait for them to get diabetes. Otherwise there is no way to draw any significant causality link between them.
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