60 yrs and up

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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,116 Community Helper

    Welcome, @cruelas01!

    I'm also a breast cancer survivor - stage III but now many years back. I'm 69 and am MFP old-timer, also retired.

    Breast cancer is a cancer type whose survivors often gain weight, rather than losing it, surprisingly. Fortunately, IME it's loseable, though, and the benefits of doing so more than worth the effort.

    Wishing you success here!

  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,939 Spam Moderator

    @cruelas01

    Welcome back.

    I've stayed in Manteca on my way to Santa Barbara in the past. There's a taco truck nearby that I remember. It is a good place about halfway and lets me get south through Sacramento after afternoon rush hour and lets me pick the time to get back north after the morning rush.

    I hope you find a connection with someone. If not, we're always here even though it's not necessarily physically nearby.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,801 Member

    @AnnPT77 : Fantastic and fun sport! I've tried it once.

  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,900 Member

    We have Dragon Boats at the paddling pavilion/launch/ramp about a mile from me. That's fun! Nice, Ann 🙂

  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,939 Spam Moderator

    @AnnPT77

    It is very thoughtful of you to obscure faces of folks who didn't give permission to post their images. You rock. I wish more people would be that considerate. This site and a rafting message board are as close to social media as I get, and I'm kind of curious who's posted my picture out there. I know there's at least one. Someone showed me.

  • elithea175
    elithea175 Posts: 49 Member

    me, too. i won’t use apps for anything. i came to mfp when fitbit trashed their webpage (which had been wonderful for years) and after some struggles have pretty much figured out how to make the mfp web page work for me. there’s the occasional fitbit sync lag, but all in all i can live with it. i’d gained back half of what i lost with fitbit by the time i was able to stabilize with the mfb web page after google destroyed fitbit and still haven’t gotten back to where i was two years ago.

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,303 Member

    Dragon boat racing just sounds so badass! And is, judging from the photo.

    Today is one of those days I’m so grateful for wooden walls on the stairs, so I can hand-over-hand my way down the steps.

    I’m trying to limit use of the Meloxicam, and probably went a day longer than I should have. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    Feeling much better after a nice breakfast and even the High Anxiety Dog had an unusually good walk this morning. He’s struggled the past couple of weeks.

    We saw the absolute spitting image of the little redheaded Carolina Spaniel he has such a crush on. She’s the only dog he will allow near him. He wagged, did his happy-to-see- you belly shimmy, then trotted up, sniffed, and then jumped back as if to say,”Heyyyyyy!!!!!!! Imposter! You’re not Biscuit!”

    Was on the fence about cardio this morning, but will go very light weights and permit myself to reel it in for a change.

  • BigDfromNJ
    BigDfromNJ Posts: 123 Member

    Just finished my coffee, and off to the gym for weight training. It's a gorgeous autumn day today, so plan on sneaking in a walk with my dogs this afternoon! Does anyone else experience the autumn feeling of need to eat more? It's like my body wants to stock up for winter. I always have to be careful this time of year, the smells of pumpkin spice and homemade stews / comfy foods, lure me in!

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,116 Community Helper

    Yes, I feel like my appetite generally goes up in the Fall. By ancestry, I'm 1/4 Swedish, 1/4 Norwegian, and 100% peasant. I figure generations of ancestors trained my genes that Winters are long, cold, and food sparse. The holidays and my birthday being in there don't help.

    I do try to moderate the effect, but now - in long term maintenance - it doesn't stress me out too much if my weight goes up a small number of pounds in Winter, as long as it drops down again come Spring.

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,303 Member

    Two inspiring ladies today.

    First Lady is an older Black woman, on a freaking walker, at the gym, who is taking swimming lessons. I’m hazarding a guess mid 80’s or older. My best friend for years was Black (she passed away) and she was petrified of water. As kids, they (Deep South 😢) didn’t have access to pools, and it was uncommon amongst her childhood peers to have learnt to swim. This lady said that was true and that she’d always wanted to learn. I am humbled that an older woman thinks “ya know, I’ve always wanted to swim,so let’s make it happen!” and just resolve to do it. She seems to be having a lot of fun learning.

    What I’ve noticed about aquafit (this lady also does aquafit), the ladies there who look young and in great shape are in their late 70’s, or even late 80’s. The ones who look older, and struggle to get around are actually 20 years younger. It’s a very peculiar juxtaposition. But I diverge.

    Second Lady was crossing at the courthouse crosswalk and I stopped for her. I was admiring her figure, her fashionable minidress, and her gorgeous long legs (she was working some stilettos!) , when she turned around and looked at me. With a shock, I realized she was at least my age, probably older.

    I really wish I’d hung my head out the window and said something, but I didn’t. That could be a little……scary, on the receiving end?

    Then I thought, that might (or at least I hope so!!!!) be how I come off to other people. I’ve seen that same look of shock when I turn around and people see my face and neck (hey, weight loss bagginess, what can I say?!)


    That gave me something to chew on for the rest of the drive home.

    After waking up feeling very “jointy”, I took a tablet, had a pretty good cardio class and an excellent swim and am feeling 100% again, especially after seeing these two ladies.

    Man oh man, life could be a lot worse. Thank heavens I took myself in hand while I’ve got good years left!

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,801 Member

    I agree with @BigDfromNJ and @AnnPT77 : Something about the cooler weather makes me want to EAT. I anticipate that I'll get a bit blue in October as the days really get short. I need to find an activity to pull me through so I don't wait until Jan 1 to "reclaim my health." I've done that for too many years in a row!

    I'm considering a flashy exercise class, like Orange Theory Fitness. Has anyone else tried that?

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,116 Community Helper

    No, but my former regular rowing double partner did. She liked it. I think it's primarily machine rowing (on WaterRower machines) varied strength work, quite energetic. From what I've seen locally, the coaches don't necessarily teach what we on-water rowing folks would consider the most effective machine rowing techniques, but it should still be a good workout.

    Given the intense nature of the workouts - I understand the orange zone they often shoot for is 84-90% HRmax - plus do partly HIIT-style activity, I don't think it's something I'd choose to do for more than a couple of days a week, maybe 3 if there isn't much other cardiovascular work on other days. I think they recommend more days for advanced exercisers, but I'm a skeptic. IMU, they encourage participants to get at least 12 splat points per class, with one splat point awarded for each minute in the orange or red zones, so above 84% HRmax starting from age estimates then customizing based on previous workouts.

    I feel like that's more frequent high intensity than my formal rowing training plans have recommended. That's just me, though . . . and I haven't been there personally, just talked with participants (outside of the classes) and one trainer. Also, I admittedly have a pretty strong bias against HIIT strength. 😉

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,801 Member

    @AnnPT77 : That's really interesting. I see on the website that they have three different workouts, one intended for strength. Since I swim, run, and ride, what I'd be looking to focus on would be strength, cutting back on the other stuff for a while. I think group fitness classes would be the most fun, so long as they're well designed.

    (It's been a great summer, improving in almost every month. Transitioning to the "off season" always challenges me.)

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,116 Community Helper

    I don't know what it's like where you are, but there are various strength-oriented group classes around here. Most of them I'm aware of seem to be the higher-rep/lower-weight faster paced group workouts to music where everyone is doing the same moves at the same time, led by an instructor. I've seen snippets of those classes at my Y, but never tried them - not my jam.

    A few years back, I took a strength training group class that was more like personal training in a group, which I did like. Each session, the instructor would demo one or a very few new-to-us exercises, then supervise us closely while some of us did the new thing as others did other exercises we'd previously learned. That gave us good form correction on the new exercises, but he was also very good at keeping an eye around the weight room and catching cases where someone really needed to correct their form on some previously-learned thing. As it progressed, he'd help a bit more individually with each of us perhaps learning things we needed to know for specific personal reasons, helping us understand how to develop and progress a program, etc.

    I hope you can find something that suits you!

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,303 Member

    I do group strength training twice a week here at home, and have done it at my daughter’s gym in SoCal as well.

    I think her gym’s is a branded (Beach Body or Les Mills?) type class. It’s a very large group, youngish group but some 60’s and 70’s, maybe 40 people, maybe 15% males.

    They use steps with mats as benches, and use narrow lightweight barbells, which I loath because they dig into your shoulders, being so narrow.

    The classes are super fast paced, and so people use really light hand weights and plates. The class is pre-designed so the reps fit the beat of the music, and the stop to explain the next move tends to be super short because they have to start on a certain beat. I get lost easily because I only go when I visit. You have to learn both the patter and the patterns to keep up.

    They do a lot of squats and lot of overhead presses for standing moves, typically fast, repeated slower, and then fast again.

    Anyone picking up a 10 pound dumbbell is goggled at like a super hero, and likewise with plates. If you’re using 5kg plates as your start on the barbells, you’re in the upper echelon of this group, but again, it’s super fast. I’m not a heavy bencher, but ten pound weights to bench with, or a lightweight bar loaded with maybe 30 lbs of plates is not much of a challenge. Even an empty “standard” bar is 45 in the gym.

    SoCal is huge on fast, sloppy (imho) overhead presses.

    Core in these classes is basically limited to push-ups off a bench. Again, if you use the floor, people act like you’re abnormal because you’re not doing exactly what the instructor is.

    Both warm up and Cooldown is 2-3 minutes. I prefer a much longer cooldown.

    My own gym, which tends to cater towards an older crowd, does a similar class (but more barbell oriented, those same narrow barbells) several times a week. It’s booked solid well in advance. I can’t get to those because they’re always late afternoon.

    We also have what we call Muscle Madness (their take on the branded programs) which is normally strictly dumbbells. They encourage us to go as heavy as possible. I use 15s on most, but on some moves (skull crushers, bench, deadlifts, rows, plank rows) will use 20 and up. The heaviest we have in the room is a couple of 40s, and you’ve got to grab them fast. I like heavier weights for goblet squats if I know they’re coming up in a set.

    Warmup is about 5 min with no weights, cooldown is about the same, longer if you don’t mind if they run over a few minutes

    Again, loud (not as insanely, can’t think, loud as the branded classes but still a lot of thump), and Tuesday instructor maddeningly does every variation of weighted lunges possible. I sincerely wish she’d change it up.

    Thursday’s instructor leans into squats and using step as bench.

    Frankly, I find my own gym’s classes to be more challenging because they encourage higher weights while still comparatively fast pace. They also include a lot more core- usually the whole last set is core.

    The instructors at my gym will walk around during sets to check and correct form. SoCal does not. They don’t have time because it’s so fast paced.

    Both gyms’ classes lean towards “flinging” weights at a fast pace, especially on standing OHP, bicep curls and Tricep kickbacks, which my trainer frowns upon, so I go heavier and more thoughtfully, if that makes sense. Lately, I do my own thing and I’m OK if I get a couple reps less than others. I’d rather have quality curls than sloppy volume.

    we have maybe 15 regulars, including a pair of male cousins who’ve started coming the last three or four months. I think other gym-goers see it as a “girly”and for older women class and avoid, but the men who have come have been somewhat shocked (and shamed!) to see the ladies reaching for heavier weights than they did. We’ve had several guys who’ve just left in the middle of class because they couldn’t hack it.

    “My” regular ladies are also stacked. 😉

    Sorry for the long read, but thought I’d share.

    In spite of minor aggravations (repetitive damn lunges) I do schedule these classes twice a week and they are a great workout. If it helps to judge, typically burn about 350-400 calories per session.

    I swim laps immediately afterwards and it’s a relief to get in the cool pool and simply and take my time!

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,801 Member

    I guess the answer with Orangetheory is to take them up on a free class!

    There are a couple of other trainers and gyms locally. I called one that said the individual sessions were $200 each. But, the trainer has some certification that allows you to pay from your high-deductible pool, which I don't use. So, that was a big "no."

    Hmm, now I notice that there is a plethora of gyms in the town next door (which is way more business-friendly). Well, lots to investigate!

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,303 Member
    edited September 17

    $200 a session?! They must’ve bumped their danged heads!

    Granted my gym does a quarterly discount package sale, but their trainers also all have some kind of degree in physical therapy, rehab, exercise science etc. They are first rate. Worlds away from sorry *kitten* trainers I had at LAFitness and Workout Anytime.

    (Not to slam those gyms-just the quality of personal training and the pressure to sign up. They take any Tom Dick or Harry who says they’re a trainer, at least in my experience.) I’ve got several very very good yoga instructors who also teach at the Y and LAF.)

    I pay $1250 for either 20 or 25 one-hour training sessions. You can also buy them in half hour packages. Thats $62 an hour or less.


    I drive a little old (but much loved) beater to afford to pay for my health. Priorities! 😂😂😂

    Running joke at the gym is that the Care Cab (electric cart that takes the less mobile from parking deck to front door) is bigger and more luxurious than my car.

  • woman3x
    woman3x Posts: 11 Member
    edited September 21

    Do any of you subscribe / listen to/ or whichever media you use to Arnold's Pump Club?

    I have been getting the emails for a couple years now - and find them very good. Of course not everything applies, but there is a lot of information about aging in there as well as workout stuff for weight training.

    There was a section on Black Beans today, what good they can do, and a recipe. And sure, they try to sell some stuff, but who doesn't these days.

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,303 Member

    I was a big fan of Gregg Wallace’s podcast “A Piece of Cake”, but he got “cancelled” earlier this year, and all the episodes are now deleted from Apple and Spotify.

    I think he was a judge on the Great British Bakeoff?

    Shame. He’d lost quite a bit of weight, and was sincerely interested in the process. His interviews with various people involved in healthcare, weight loss industry, and nutrition were interesting, as were his followup episodes called “Another Piece” with a couple of “normal” people midway into the weight loss process themselves, and their takeaways on what they’d heard.

    I never got to finish it because I tend to space out podcasts I enjoy so I have something to look forward to.


  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 6,034 Member

    well for us 60 and over I have to say that I think getting the Paxlovid as soon as you test positive for covid is well worth the $100 co pay. I can't of course say for certain but I am pretty certain it stopped the viral replication very early on for me based on what my HR monitors are telling me for sleep and resting. Even when I had the FLU back in 2018 my HR took weeks to drop back down to normal. With this drug it has been back within days. It tastes AWFUL (no matter if you swallow the horse pills or not) but seems worth it to deal with the illness like a cold vs the flu or worse.

  • BigDfromNJ
    BigDfromNJ Posts: 123 Member

    @SummerSkier You're lucky that Paxlovid works for you! I'm, unfortunately, one of the 1% that the Covid Vaccine and Paxlovid don't work for. Every year I get the vaccine, and I still get Covid, and the one time I took Paxlovid I got long haulers covid and coughed for 9 months. So, this year I'm not taking Paxlovid if I get Covid. Sticking to healthy eating, exercise, and good hygiene and letting God's Will to be done. 🙂

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,116 Community Helper

    I think that's tricky. I had a conversation with my PCP about what I should do if I home-test positive for Covid, given my medical history. It's been long enough now that I don't remember all the details. (The key one was "contact her immediately" - that one I absolutely remember.)

    But I do remember that it wasn't automatic that Paxlovid was the best immediate step. For sure, it's a drug that has contraindications, both certain pre-existing health conditions and potential interactions with other medications . . . and some things in both those categories are statistically more common among the 60+ crowd.

    I'm not saying Paxlovid's the wrong answer, and 100% am saying the absolute opposite of "don't get medical treatment", but it can be nuanced, especially in our age group.

  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 6,034 Member

    Oh I agree that everyone has to deal with their own set of medical history and their doctors. Fortunately I do not take any other Rx that would interfere with the Paxlovid. I think Covid is in a class by itself and everyone probably has a different experience.

    As an example my Dr said this current strain was supposedly REALLY contagious. I was with a gal for over an hr Sat morning (I had no symptoms) and I tested positive on that evening because my throat felt funny. I contacted her several times to check, and she has not gotten sick. We suspect because I did not have a fever but that goes against a lot of the knowledge which says you are really contagious for a couple days BEFORE you have symptoms. Luck of the draw for her I guess.

  • Jthanmyfitnesspal
    Jthanmyfitnesspal Posts: 3,801 Member
    edited September 18

    My 91y mother and her 91y roommate got COVID in September 2024. Both had been recently vaccinated and both were recommended against taking Paxlovid by their perspective doctors. Please don't take that as medical advice, it's just what happened to them!

    I'm getting the COVID vaccine on Friday. I got COVID last year. It didn't hit me that hard in the moment, but I've been slowly improving in my health, including breathing, all year since then, and I can't help but think it was part of the problem. I'm hoping to skip it this year, if possible. I'll let y'all know if I have much problem with the vaccine. I haven't in the past!

  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 10,303 Member
    edited September 18

    unpopular opinion, belongs in the other thread, but…..I’ve gotten sick a lot less often the past few years. Maybe it’s weight loss, but I attribute it to slow and deep breathing “pranayama” techniques learned in yoga, which carry over to the weight room, much to the chagrin of my trainer. I’ve been so trained to do slow, deliberate in and outs, it obvs affects reps. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    I seldom get stuffy, either.

    Wish I’d had this training back when I played a wind instrument lol. I remember being instructed to put piles books on my belly and practice breathing that way, lol.