Plateau Woes

I have stayed the same weight since September, 133 lbs. (for context, I am 5'7" and working to get down to my goal weight of 125 lbs.). I have actually gone up 3 lbs and come back down since then out of frustration. I actually stopped logging into mfp because I just felt like I'm not logging any progress, which made me feel worse. But now I am back again—at square one, working on losing 8 lbs. I am doing more bodyweight exercises—pushups, situps, high knee skips, pushups, fast paced walking mixed with jogging—everything. And I can't eat less that I am eating now because I wouldn't be able to concentrate at work or exercise for that matter. I need advice that helps me meet my goal, not a "You're good where you are, don't lose anymore".

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  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,575 Member
    edited November 4

    Sometimes more exercise is counterproductive as it makes hunger worse. Try just dropping some non protein calories. If you are doing low-carb, try bumping the carbs up a little bit maybe lower fat if fat calories are a bit high. That's dependent though on whether your body and brain runs better on carbs or fats

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    Okay, lowering carbs i can do that. I suddenly dropped 2 pounds by today after checking my weight last week Friday, so some progress finally and happily. And realistically at this point 12anything will feel like I have met my goal, so just 2 more to go to finally make a dent.

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    Yes, I have been eating st maintenance like 4 days each week to be able to feel alert and concentrate at work. I have been gradually cutting out more than recommended guidelines for added sugar but occasionally have a full stack of ihop pancakes or something moderate like that to balance things out. It been a bit tricky to remain on a 1200 cal diet and I am sure I've hit 2000 to 2400 some days but have never stopped working out. Will work on being more consistent with diet to see the progress because I really want it.

  • age_is_just_a_number
    age_is_just_a_number Posts: 1,474 Member

    133lbs and 5’7”

    BMI 20.8

    Healthy BMI range is 18.5 to 24.9

    BMI is controversial and not the be all and end all of metrics.

    Have you calculated your body fat percentage? (I use Health Status body fat % calculator). To my knowledge there is no 100% accurate body fat % calculator. I like this one because it calculates using 4 different methods. https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/body-fat-percentage-calculator/

    Are you working on body re-composition?

    Is it possible 133lbs is the ‘right’ weight for you?

    What do you expect to be different at 125lbs?

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    Expecting to feel more lighter on my feet with the weight loss. I dropped 2 recently, coming down to 131, and it is amazing how much lighter I feel already with just 2 lbs loss. So, ai hope in just a few more pounds, it will feel like walking around without a bookbag, much lighter and freer.

  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 15,896 Member

    To avoid heartbreaks.... water weight manipulation/management (which is what a fast and substantial loss due to dropping carbs would be), is legitimate scale weight.

    But it is not a change in adipose tissue.

    Such management is mostly a temporary on and off water weight change based on recent carb intake changes and can best be considered "borrowed" instead of permanent.

    Enjoy it for what it is: a temp boost and fun while you deal with longer term changes

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    Yes, it could.be that. I just dropped down to 129. Will try to be more consistent thought with overall calories to keep it off.

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    I used to weigh 118bto 123lbs for most of my life, then I was injured (a sports injury) and had to take medication that contributed to weight gain in addition to eating as if I am exercising all day. You are not kicking anything teeth. It's good advic3, but I have never been overweight a single day of my life and now that I am recovered, I am working on removing the excess weight that is absolutely foreign to me.

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    Thank you. It's about choices. And I think as well being able to laugh at myself sometimes for the some of the choices I've made, then learning from them and moving on--living the life that I want.

  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,446 Member

    I wonder how you look? 5 7 and 133.. and you workout.. which means you are fit. Is there a chance you look pretty darned good now, and there's a thought it your head that you have to weight 125?

    There's no shame in readjusting your goal weight. I totally understand how you don't want to eat less if it is hard now. You have to live your life. Maybe flex your calories or take a day off from dieting once a week and see if that jumpstarts a loss?

    I've done that in the past.. the more I exercised and ate perfectly.. I never lost. When I ate a few meals off and took days of rest from exercising I started losing again.

  • HS7793
    HS7793 Posts: 14 Member

    That's true. When i was eating lesser, it sucked. I like my "favorite things"-- belgian waffle, whipped cream, and chocolate of course—and wouldn't choose to lose weight without those things. I do have 125 in my head, which is actually a little higher than what I used to weigh a year ago, but it allows for more flexibility and I really love how incorporating more strength training has been making my body feel and move so well.

  • dancingmom77
    dancingmom77 Posts: 4 Member

    I feel like I was in a similar situation. I’m also 5’7”, starting weight 140 lbs., goal weight about 133. I’m post menopausal, fairly active and muscular build. I gained about 10-13 lbs over about two years. I started logging and reducing calories in October. The first few weeks showed very little difference and lots of fluctuations.
    Now I’m down about 5 lbs and my calories are around 1300-1500. What has made some difference for me is cutting out sugar and sweets, subbing with erythritol and baking my own keto brownies ( I have a sweet tooth), eating most of my calories in the middle of the day, and not snacking/grazing before bed. I have not felt overly hungry.

    I had gotten into a bad habit of eating cookies, crackers, and other sweets right before bed and going to bed in a full stomach. Now when I go to bed, I don’t feel overly full. I have a cup of tea if I feel tempted to snack.

    Curious if you have noticed any change since your post? It takes time, especially when it’s a lower percentage you want to lose.

  • jwilllawrence
    jwilllawrence Posts: 2 Member

    exercising more makes hunger worse cause you are increasing your expenditure. it also allows you to eat more food for effectively the same amount of calories, so I don't see how cutting exercise would be a good idea for anybody, rather that just increasing intake as you increase expenditure.

  • tomcustombuilder
    tomcustombuilder Posts: 2,575 Member
    edited November 25

    it depends on how much exercise you're talking about. Some people overdo it. You need to find your sweet spot. Also some types of exercise causes more hunger.

  • claireychn074
    claireychn074 Posts: 1,990 Member

    The issue with exercise is that it can (in some people) increase appetite. So they eat more and cancel out any calorie deficit.

    I’m one of them. If I don’t exercise my appetite falls off a cliff and I will find it easier to lose weight by calorie restriction. I exercise a reasonable amount and my appetite is through the roof.

    Having said that, I think pretty much everyone on here is in favour of exercise for the health benefits and it’s good to do. Just be aware that exercise can increase appetite beyond the intended calorie limit in some people.

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 38,536 Community Helper
    edited November 25

    In addition to what others said - and a thing that could apply in OP's case: Some people reduce daily life activity levels when they exercise, thus burning fewer calories than expected in daily life, effectively wiping out some of the exercise calories.

    The effect can be subtle. Even reduced spontaneous movement - fidgeting and similar unconscious movements - can represent as much as a couple of hundred calories daily. That's without even considering cases where exercise induces persisting fatigue that makes a person sit more, rest more, sleep longer, etc.

    There's research about this effect. Look up "exercise calorie compensation" or "exercise energy compensation". However, the findings are mixed. In some studies that present the details, it looks like some people are "compensators" (when they exercise more, they do less in daily life) but others "non-compensators" (most/all exercise calories increase TDEE), and the degree of compensation varies individually.

    (Yes, compensation pretty clearly seems to happen at a population average level - Hadza versus developed world, blahblahblah. But Michael Phelps, the much-Olympic-medaled swimmer, consumed 8000-10000 calories daily during peak training and didn't get fat doing it. Individuals vary, and for weight management we care about our own individual case, not our national average.)

    Common sense might suggest that if people over-exercise for their current fitness level, they're more likely to put themselves in the "compensator" category and not get all the calorie benefits from the added exercise. I suspect that's part of the picture, especially since professional endurance athletes besides Phelps have massive calorie needs compared to us regular duffers. I haven't seen any research, though, that tries to correlate compensation with exercise load and starting fitness level.

    The implied question to OP is "are you over-exercising?". If so, slow the bus down, and build back up more gradually. Yes, exercise is good for a body, worth doing, potentially (probably) increases calorie needs. But it's not necessarily a complete linear calorie burn add-on, in actual life practice.

  • age_is_just_a_number
    age_is_just_a_number Posts: 1,474 Member

    @HS7793 It's been a month since your original post.
    Nov 4 133 lbs; Nov 5 131lbs; Nov 7 129lbs. —> Those are really dramatic losses over a couple of days.

    Do you have an update for us? Have you broken your plateau?
    What is your weight now?
    How do you feel?
    Did you implement any changes based on the replies provided?
    If yes, what changes did you make?