PALEO

Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet.

Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet.

I've never heard paleo referred to as clean eating... it's typically low to no carbs, very, very heavy on the meat (proteins) but even beans aren't allowed on the original site, which is a wonderful source of a healthy protein. So for myself the diet doesn't make a lot of sense in situation such as that.

I only know what I've read and I personally don't feel taking out certain food groups completely such as veggies, fruit, dairy, legumes etc. to be the most healthy thing to do unless suggested by your Dietitian or Doctor for medical reasons.

I feel veggies/fruit is very nutritious so it's not likely I'll switch over to all protein. Too much protein can cause tremendous issues to the kidneys, plus our body needs carbs to fuel it, like a car.

It's likely you'll get many thoughts on this topic, mine isn't intended to be negative but more something I feel personally for myself from all that I've read on it and members describing what they are doing while on it.

Some members are very much into it, quite sure the search engine is full of threads on the topic.

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ETA: After reading the other posters input, I realize I may be mixing up Primal with Paleo so I might not have been much help.

Amazed at the less than helpful comments and just plain rudeness by repeating the same comment over and over again now by several different members. Perhaps there's a full moon out?

To the OP, hopefully you'll find the info you're seeking in a more helpful way as more see the thread and are able to share their experiences of being on it.

All the best......

Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet.

Some great recipes at nomnompaleo.com.

^^ That's a silly thought.

I basically live a "revised" Paleo lifestyle. Revised in the sense that I eat ice cream occasionally and if I REALLY want a piece of bread I will eat it.

I think you can definitely work the idea of Paleo to benefit your specific lifestyle. For me, I can't live without ice cream and popcorn on occasion.

But basically I live off of fruits and veggies, and proteins. The natural fats in all seriousness do amazing things for my energy and strength levels. I've trained Strongman(woman) : ) for the past 2 years and have only benefited from the natural energy that is given to me through the fruits and fats I'm eating.

It's fairly cost friendly, as you can plan ahead at home and buy what is on sale at the grocery store.

I believe that everyone's Paleo can look different, but have same idea. Cut out the processed crap and live off of the natural goodness that is within our reach.

Just my opinion and what I've seen in my life, many people (strength athletes, World's Strongest Men) that follow the Paleo lifestyle and see nothing but progress.

The key, recognize what your "vices" are in your diet i.e. the things you can't do without..and work them into your everyday life. Paleo isn't a fad, it's a lifestyle for it to work properly.

I'm very sorry that you live such an unnecessarily restrictive lifestyle by following a diet with absolutely no benefits or advantages beyond any other sensibly made diet, and that you justify it by saying certain competitors follow this type of eating, yet completely disregard the other 99% of competitors who achieve the same results (or better results) with a sensibly made non-restrictive diet.

Please respond.

Most people I know on Paleo are not restricting calories at all, and actually consume for more than me. They are also in serious build lean muscle mass mode. Some of them are female as well.

I am restricting my calories for now, since I am actively losing weight. That being said, I have incorporated Paleo/Primal concepts into my eating habits and am pleased with the experience.
I don't consume near as much dairy, mostly because of caloric content and the sugars. I do still enjoy yogurt and cheese periodically.
I have cut starchy carbs out of my diet considerably as well, and have found that very helpful in my energy levels more stable. I was previously prone to hypoglycemic episodes. I still consume brown rice and legumes on occasion as well as the occasional Josephs pita and bowl of oatmeal.

The costs of eating cleaner and more paleo/primal like isn't much different for me than previous eating habits. The biggest change is actually planning more. I cook a lot on the weekend and eat on it during the week.

I hope that is helpful.

Horse hockey. I can eat 1200 to 1300 calories a day eating what the conventional wisdom calls a "sensible diet" and not lose weight. Or I can eat 2000 to 2500 calories a day of protein/fat/veggies/fruits and lose weight rather nicely which is what I do now. I lost 145 pounds in 6 months by making certain food choices and eliminating grains and most dairy and sugar and processed frankenfoods.

Uh, yeah, because eating 1200 - 1300 calories for someone of your weight is undereating. ESPECIALLY if you are remotely active.

So...what?

Horse hockey. I can eat 1200 to 1300 calories a day eating what the conventional wisdom calls a "sensible diet" and not lose weight. Or I can eat 2000 to 2500 calories a day of protein/fat/veggies/fruits and lose weight rather nicely which is what I do now. I lost 145 pounds in 6 months by making certain food choices and eliminating grains and most dairy and sugar and processed frankenfoods.

lol.

I'm sorry that you are so unaware to basic nutrition and science truths.

Let me educate you real fast. A calorie is a unit of energy. Your body uses calories (energy) for it's basic function and daily processes and tasks. The first Law of Thermodynamics states that energy can never be created or destroyed. What does this mean? Well, it means if you consume 2,000 calories and burn 2,500 calories in a day, the other 500 calories that you did not eat cannot just randomly manifest itself, and therefore is taken from your body. If you over consume calories in a way that there is more calories (over time) that your body can use for energy, it is stored.

Some make the claim that a calorie is not a calorie.. well, yes and no. By definition all things are equal because a calorie is a standardized unit of energy. With relation to food the argument can be made that specific macronutrients undergo different metabolic pathways, some of which are more or less efficient resulting in variances in net caloric expenditure (this is referred to as the thermic effect of feeding in some cases). With that said, these miniscule variances are not enough to overthrow, disregard or demonize any particular macronutrient.

While different macronutrients may, in short term, lead to different oxidation and storage processes by the body; in the long term they balance out.

You lack a clear understanding of basic math/science/biochemistry/metabolic pathways.

If I were you, I would read some relevant studies.. or perhaps just attempt to educate yourself on nutritional basics.

Please read this for a better understanding: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/nutrient-intake-nutrient-storage-and-nutrient-oxidation.html

Now please tell me how your anecdotal and irrelevant, unbelievable story somehow disproves the basic laws of science, and how you have been keeping this ground breaking information from the government - because if your account was true and the law of thermodynamics were not accurate, then the law of entropy would not exists and therefore we could have free energy and perpetual motion.

Please respond.

Well if I input my current stats into MFP and follow their conventional wisdom guidelines, I would get 1297 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week. Are you saying MFP is wrong??

Uh, yes. I would.

MFP probably doesn't use an efficient calculator when estimating BMR.

You tough guys are so cute.

The benefits of a "revised" (like I said) Paleo lifestyle are the following:

1.) Instead of your body fueling itself off of processed carbs, it in return fuels itself off of fat that you consume...which in return burns fat!

What is dietary fat stored as? So a high fat diet has you eating and GAINING more fat, but burning more fat. But...GAINING more fat, too. Don't forget that.

A higher carb diet has you burning less fat but also gaining LESS fat. Remember that.

Now, you were saying?

2.) The energy that is then generated is much more beneficial in everyday life. Meaning, if you are living off of energy from "unnatural" sources your energy is going to have major highs and major lows. What "I have found" is that with Paleo your energy is more consistent through out the day and easier to "peak" when needed. Let's say if you are competing in a competition.

Zero empirical foundation for this claim. Just because YOU feel better doesn't mean EVERYONE will.

3.) Your body starts to have a "natural fuel" instead of tanking (your energy) after a massive plate of chicken alfredo pasta.

What? Massive plate of pasta = filled glycogen = TONS of fuel.

Would you like me to go into more detail...or am I just a silly girl with silly thoughts?

Not silly - but you have made zero legitimate claims that make paleo better than a non-paleo diet. All you've said is a misconception regarding CHO/lipid metabolization, and that you personally prefer paleo.

altlane21 please respond.

I fear you lack severe understanding on nutrition and nutrition related science along with basic biochemical metabolic pathways and laws of science.

Please refer to the above post (by unts) and my post on how energy balance works, and then try to refute science with your anecdotal claims that hold no actual contextual value.

You tough guys are so cute.

The benefits of a "revised" (like I said) Paleo lifestyle are the following:

1.) Instead of your body fueling itself off of processed carbs, it in return fuels itself off of fat that you consume...which in return burns fat!

What is dietary fat stored as? So a high fat diet has you eating and GAINING more fat, but burning more fat. But...GAINING more fat, too. Don't forget that.

A higher carb diet has you burning less fat but also gaining LESS fat. Remember that.

Now, you were saying?

2.) The energy that is then generated is much more beneficial in everyday life. Meaning, if you are living off of energy from "unnatural" sources your energy is going to have major highs and major lows. What "I have found" is that with Paleo your energy is more consistent through out the day and easier to "peak" when needed. Let's say if you are competing in a competition.

Zero empirical foundation for this claim. Just because YOU feel better doesn't mean EVERYONE will.

3.) Your body starts to have a "natural fuel" instead of tanking (your energy) after a massive plate of chicken alfredo pasta.

What? Massive plate of pasta = filled glycogen = TONS of fuel.

Would you like me to go into more detail...or am I just a silly girl with silly thoughts?

Not silly - but you have made zero legitimate claims that make paleo better than a non-paleo diet. All you've said is a misconception regarding CHO/lipid metabolization, and that you personally prefer paleo.

I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.