PALEO

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  • hulk6
    hulk6 Posts: 13
    I ate 8 hot dogs and a pint of Ben & Jerry's the other night. I felt great afterwards!

    Does that count as Paleo?

    no.

    Even if it's paleo ben & jerry's and paleo hot dogs?
  • fjschmoozer
    fjschmoozer Posts: 11
    You tough guys are so cute.

    The benefits of a "revised" (like I said) Paleo lifestyle are the following:

    1.) Instead of your body fueling itself off of processed carbs, it in return fuels itself off of fat that you consume...which in return burns fat!

    What is dietary fat stored as? So a high fat diet has you eating and GAINING more fat, but burning more fat. But...GAINING more fat, too. Don't forget that.

    A higher carb diet has you burning less fat but also gaining LESS fat. Remember that.

    Now, you were saying?
    2.) The energy that is then generated is much more beneficial in everyday life. Meaning, if you are living off of energy from "unnatural" sources your energy is going to have major highs and major lows. What "I have found" is that with Paleo your energy is more consistent through out the day and easier to "peak" when needed. Let's say if you are competing in a competition.

    Zero empirical foundation for this claim. Just because YOU feel better doesn't mean EVERYONE will.
    3.) Your body starts to have a "natural fuel" instead of tanking (your energy) after a massive plate of chicken alfredo pasta.

    What? Massive plate of pasta = filled glycogen = TONS of fuel.
    Would you like me to go into more detail...or am I just a silly girl with silly thoughts?
    Not silly - but you have made zero legitimate claims that make paleo better than a non-paleo diet. All you've said is a misconception regarding CHO/lipid metabolization, and that you personally prefer paleo.

    I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.

    He just asked you to provide empirical evidence as to why Paleo is better than a common calorie restricted diet. No need to get all huffy puffy and tell him to go away.
  • Birder150
    Birder150 Posts: 677 Member
    I ate 8 hot dogs and a pint of Ben & Jerry's the other night. I felt great afterwards!

    Does that count as Paleo?

    no.

    Even if it's paleo ben & jerry's and paleo hot dogs?

    har har but no, not even then.
  • HunterCML
    HunterCML Posts: 51
    I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.

    I'm not sure that taking some defensive stance with no actual evidence found to back up your claim is helping the validity of your former posts.

    "I don't know what to say because I am wrong, so now I will be rude for no reason."

    Is that what you're about?

    We just try to educate people who need it. Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.
  • mynameisuntz
    mynameisuntz Posts: 582 Member
    I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.
    Why are you trying to criticize me for simply telling you that you have misconceptions regarding nutrition and the body's metabolic response to macronutrients?

    You are spouting ideas that are false. While they may work for YOU, you act as though paleo is somehow superior to a non-paleo diet. If you said, "I like paleo, but it isn't the universally best diet" then that's fine. But you didn't - you actually tried to make the claim that paleo has a metabolic edge.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-we-get-fat.html

    I highly, highly suggest you read that. You'll probably ignore it, but you should. It will explain lots.
  • Birder150
    Birder150 Posts: 677 Member
    Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.

    LOL. You LIVE for it.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.

    Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
  • nicole00lynn
    nicole00lynn Posts: 110

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.

    thank youuuuuu
  • mynameisuntz
    mynameisuntz Posts: 582 Member
    People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.

    Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
    Fair enough.

    OP - there is no health advantage to a paleolithic diet than a non-paleolithic diet assuming your calories are moderated, macronutrients balanced, and minimal micronutrients met.

    Clear?
  • alyssalanet
    alyssalanet Posts: 25
    Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.

    LOL. You LIVE for it.

    Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
  • fjschmoozer
    fjschmoozer Posts: 11
    People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.

    Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.

    Exactly what health advantages does a paleo diet provide?
  • HunterCML
    HunterCML Posts: 51
    People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.

    Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.

    You do realize, a sensibly made diet should be constructed with sufficient micronutrient intake and avoid harmful dietary substances (like synthetic trans-fats).

    Therefore a Paleo diet is in no way more or less healthy than a sensibly constructed diet.
  • mynameisuntz
    mynameisuntz Posts: 582 Member
    Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
    Maybe being wrong, getting called out, and then going into defensive mode makes you hit your goals quicker. The pendulum of judgment goes both ways.

    Are you going to keep sitting here pouting, or maybe learn something by reading the links we've provided? Call us blunt if you want, but we're at least offering information that is based on empirical research. You have provided nothing but anecdotal evidence, and when that was pointed out, you accused us of getting off on arguing.

    Read the links, provide concrete information, stop accusing us of just wanting to argue, or leave. Despite our blunt approach, we are contributing in some form.
  • Birder150
    Birder150 Posts: 677 Member
    People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.

    Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.

    You do realize, a sensibly made diet should be constructed with sufficient micronutrient intake and avoid harmful dietary substances (like synthetic trans-fats).

    Therefore a Paleo diet is in no way more or less healthy than a sensibly constructed diet.

    What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?
  • fjschmoozer
    fjschmoozer Posts: 11
    Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.

    LOL. You LIVE for it.

    Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!

    No need to attack him. Reported.
  • Birder150
    Birder150 Posts: 677 Member
    Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.

    LOL. You LIVE for it.

    Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!


    No need to attack him. Reported.


    The troll is offended.
    Priceless.
  • nicole00lynn
    nicole00lynn Posts: 110

    No need to attack him. Reported.

    seriously?
  • HunterCML
    HunterCML Posts: 51
    Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!

    Does trolling and being consistently rude help you feel better about being misinformed?

    I've been providing actual studies and evidence to my claims, only to your benefit. It would be wise if you did less feel-good trolling and more reading on the actual evidences and links posted.
  • Birder150
    Birder150 Posts: 677 Member
    Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!

    Does trolling and being consistently rude help you feel better about being misinformed?

    I've been providing actual studies and evidence to my claims, only to your benefit. It would be wise if you did less feel-good trolling and more reading on the actual evidences and links posted.

    good grief
  • mynameisuntz
    mynameisuntz Posts: 582 Member
    What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?
    No one has an issue with that.

    There's an issue with claiming grains, dairy, and legumes are bad, though, and having ZERO proper empirical evidence to support such a claim.
  • fjschmoozer
    fjschmoozer Posts: 11

    No need to attack him. Reported.

    seriously?

    Yes. Serious. Why u mad?
  • HunterCML
    HunterCML Posts: 51
    What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?

    Absolutely nothing. Please go back and reread my post and realize that I never said Paleo or primal eating is disadvantageous; I only stated that it is unnecessarily restrictive and offers no physiological benefit in comparison to any other sensibly constructed diet.
  • nicole00lynn
    nicole00lynn Posts: 110

    No need to attack him. Reported.

    seriously?

    Yes. Serious. Why u mad?

    uhh i think we can all handle oursleves here. thanks.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.

    Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.

    But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.

    You do realize, a sensibly made diet should be constructed with sufficient micronutrient intake and avoid harmful dietary substances (like synthetic trans-fats).

    Therefore a Paleo diet is in no way more or less healthy than a sensibly constructed diet.
    Yes, but that is not what you said. You said "Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet."
  • alyssalanet
    alyssalanet Posts: 25
    What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?
    No one has an issue with that.

    There's an issue with claiming grains, dairy, and legumes are bad, though, and having ZERO proper empirical evidence to support such a claim.

    Wait, did I ever say "grains, dairy, and legumes are bad?" And did I actually say that I find a benefit in my own personal energy levels and lifestyle when eating a diet BASED OFF of fats, fruit and veggies? While cutting out processed foods. Oh, and that I actually live a sort of "revised" Paleo lifestyle. Goodness.
  • HunterCML
    HunterCML Posts: 51
    Yes, but that is not what you said. You said "Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet."

    I said that because it's true and I've provided ample evidence to support my claim. If you're referring to the word "silly" - I consider any pointlessly restrictive diet that provides no advantages to any other calorie restrictive diet "silly".
  • alyssalanet
    alyssalanet Posts: 25

    No need to attack him. Reported.

    seriously?

    Yes. Serious. Why u mad?

    uhh i think we can all handle oursleves here. thanks.

    It's okay, I think it's kinda cute.
  • alyssalanet
    alyssalanet Posts: 25
    Yes, but that is not what you said. You said "Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet."

    I said that because it's true and I've provided ample evidence to support my claim. If you're referring to the word "silly" - I consider any pointlessly restrictive diet that provides no advantages to any other calorie restrictive diet "silly".

    So what I see as personal benefits from eating the way I do, is...silly?
  • mynameisuntz
    mynameisuntz Posts: 582 Member
    Wait, did I ever say "grains, dairy, and legumes are bad?" And did I actually say that I find a benefit in my own personal energy levels and lifestyle when eating a diet BASED OFF of fats, fruit and veggies? While cutting out processed foods. Oh, and that I actually live a sort of "revised" Paleo lifestyle. Goodness.
    Was my response directed towards you, or another poster?

    Have you read our links yet? Or is ignorance too bliss to challenge your own preconceived notions?
  • nicole00lynn
    nicole00lynn Posts: 110

    No need to attack him. Reported.

    seriously?

    Yes. Serious. Why u mad?

    uhh i think we can all handle oursleves here. thanks.

    It's okay, I think it's kinda cute.

    LOL. im going to resume my normal life - thanks for your help girl :)
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