Human rights?
Or specifically, burglars.
If someone broke into your home, tripped over something and hurt themselves, they could sue you for it. How the hell does that make sense.
Or if you try to stop them, and punch them, they could sue you for assault.
At what point does human rights stop?
Personally i think that if you break into someone's house, you forgo your human rights. YOU made that choice to break the law, therefore laws of human rights no longer apply...
If someone broke into your home, tripped over something and hurt themselves, they could sue you for it. How the hell does that make sense.
Or if you try to stop them, and punch them, they could sue you for assault.
At what point does human rights stop?
Personally i think that if you break into someone's house, you forgo your human rights. YOU made that choice to break the law, therefore laws of human rights no longer apply...
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pretty sure that depends on the state. Not positive, but almost... In Texas, if they are in/on your property, you have rights. Gotta
TEXAS!!! 0 -
I believe self-defense is a right in most states.0
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Or specifically, burglars.
If someone broke into your home, tripped over something and hurt themselves, they could sue you for it. How the hell does that make sense.
Or if you try to stop them, and punch them, they could sue you for assault.
At what point does human rights stop?
Personally i think that if you break into someone's house, you forgo your human rights. YOU made that choice to break the law, therefore laws of human rights no longer apply...
Once you break the law, you should lose all rights.
That includes those in prison getting gym time, tv time, etc.
Those in prison should not live better than someone else. Put them to work, chain gangs ftw.0 -
missouri and colorado too! if they are in your house on your property, the lose the right to life, well if you feel your life or family's life in threatened. And frankly if a stranger was in my house, Id feel threatened0
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Agreed...if the asshat hadn't broken into the house in the first place, they wouldn't have been injured. This country tends to turn "justice system" into an oxymoron...0
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Now playing devil's advocate.
So, what's to stop you kidnapping someone you don't like, taking them home, killing them, setting it up to look like a burglary, and phone the cops and say he broke in so you killed him?0 -
one of the very few things i love about Alabama...you come in MY house, even onto my property with the intent to cause harm to me, my family or my property...then i have the right to shoot your stupid *kitten*...and yes, i have a gun (a few actually) and i know how to use it....0
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pretty sure that depends on the state. Not positive, but almost... In Texas, if they are in/on your property, you have rights. Gotta TEXAS!!!
Yup.. this is true!!! :bigsmile:0 -
Wow! You guys are scary. I going to do all my burgling in Europe. Yayyyyyy Human Rights rule.0
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pretty sure that depends on the state. Not positive, but almost... In Texas, if they are in/on your property, you have rights. Gotta TEXAS!!!
I was going to say this too. Those types of things don't USUALLY fly here......0 -
"If you give a moose a muffin..." seems to apply to many aspects of life today. I strongly support rights but people have come to take advantage of them. There was a time when unions were necessary to protect people's lives, now they are overrun with greed. Civil rights were necessary to get a grip on racism, now there are people who use it to their own advantage. You can choose to eat at McDonald and sue them for what you ordered.
Locally this week, one of our police officers was stabbed by a man who had set fire to a house and led the police on a chase. Back up officers shot the man and he died from his injuries. His mother called him a "good son" and is now suing the police department for his death, saying it was based on race. :noway:0 -
If they break into my house, there won't be any chance of them sueing me. However, there is a likely chance I will have to explain clean my gun.0
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Now playing devil's advocate.
So, what's to stop you kidnapping someone you don't like, taking them home, killing them, setting it up to look like a burglary, and phone the cops and say he broke in so you killed him?
That seems like an awful lot of hard work.... lol0 -
In Texas, you are allowed to shoot and kill a burglar in your home or even your neighbor's home if your neighbors have asked you to keep an eye on their place.0
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In Texas we get to shoot them. Personally, I'm considering setting up an elaborate maze of sharp objects in my yard so that when they try to break in, they just break a leg. Let them sue me..no jury in this state would find me guilty of anything.0
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That person comes into my house he will be met with lead from a Ruger 9mm rather quickly.0
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Now playing devil's advocate.
So, what's to stop you kidnapping someone you don't like, taking them home, killing them, setting it up to look like a burglary, and phone the cops and say he broke in so you killed him?
I'd say chances of pulling that off are slim. Forensics are against you..0 -
pretty sure that depends on the state. Not positive, but almost... In Texas, if they are in/on your property, you have rights. Gotta TEXAS!!!
I think this one is King of the Castle law or something like that. Castle Doctrine.0 -
If they break into my house, there won't be any chance of them sueing me. However, there is a likely chance I will have to explain clean my gun.
They wont, but their family probably will. You committed murder. It'll be hard to deny that.0 -
Now playing devil's advocate.
So, what's to stop you kidnapping someone you don't like, taking them home, killing them, setting it up to look like a burglary, and phone the cops and say he broke in so you killed him?
The forensics would be able to prove if that was wrong or not...seen scenarios like this a lot on crime shows....0 -
In NY, I'm fairly certain that if you are defending yourself or your home, reasonable physical force is allowable. You can also defend yourself outside your home with reasonable force if you are physically attacked.0
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Now playing devil's advocate.
So, what's to stop you kidnapping someone you don't like, taking them home, killing them, setting it up to look like a burglary, and phone the cops and say he broke in so you killed him?
Seems like a lot of work when you can just go bury them in someone's yard or run them through a woodchipper.0 -
In NY you are expected to let them ransack the place.
Virtually any action other then to run away will leave you in the backseat of a police cruiser.0 -
I believe self-defense is a right in most states.
Self-defense is, but most states don't consider defense of home to be "self-defense." There are only a few states in which you're allowed to kill someone just for breaking in. In most states, you have a duty to retreat first. Then, if the burglar comes after you, you can shoot.0 -
You need to know the whole story.
For example a friend of mine was renting a house with some friends.
He had never been to the house before and he got the address wrong.
He walked in, made himself a sandwich and took a shower.
He was in the place alone for about 3 hours before he realized he was in the wrong place.
He left and no one was the wiser except for some missing cold cuts and a wet towel.
I don't think his mistake justified shooting on site.0 -
In Arizona if you come into my house, and have an intent to harm (intent to harm is key here), I can defend myself however appropriately.0
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pretty sure that depends on the state. Not positive, but almost... In Texas, if they are in/on your property, you have rights. Gotta TEXAS!!!
I think this one is King of the Castle law or something like that. Castle Doctrine.
hahaha, um, nope. Real law. Shoot first. Ask questions later.0 -
Ok, all Americans here. I'm asking for no other point that i am genuinely curious on this.
Over here in the UK you can't buy "guns", sports pistols etc aside. And, i feel much safer knowing that the chances of anyone having a gun is very, very low.
When you had those school shootings, did the "law" about your right to bear arms come under scrutiny? It just seems very...easy for that kind of thing to happen, given your gun laws.0 -
If they break into my house, there won't be any chance of them sueing me. However, there is a likely chance I will have to explain clean my gun.
They wont, but their family probably will. You committed murder. It'll be hard to deny that.
Not murder, I live in Texas. The Castle Doctrine. But good luck trying to get a conviction on me.0 -
"If you give a moose a muffin..." seems to apply to many aspects of life today. I strongly support rights but people have come to take advantage of them. There was a time when unions were necessary to protect people's lives, now they are overrun with greed. Civil rights were necessary to get a grip on racism, now there are people who use it to their own advantage. You can choose to eat at McDonald and sue them for what you ordered.
Locally this week, one of our police officers was stabbed by a man who had set fire to a house and led the police on a chase. Back up officers shot the man and he died from his injuries. His mother called him a "good son" and is now suing the police department for his death, saying it was based on race. :noway:
What the hell does "give a moose a Muffin " mean?
By the way, love the ticker. Zepplin rule, well they did anyway.
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