Eating under 1200 calories
NostalgicDruid
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Myself and a handful of my MFP friends have our profile set that our friends can see our food diaries, and for the last week or so something has started to bother me.
A few of the girls are eating consistently under 1200 (sometimes as low as 800). Now, I know they may just not be adding everything, or just doing it improperly, but I am started to feel very concerned that they are starving themselves. Mine is set to almost 1450 calories/day and I don't normally go under by more than 100 and I eat most of my exercising calories back when I exercise. I am eating a lot, compared to them, but still losing my pound/week. With being able to lose weight at this calorie intake, it makes me wonder why anyone would want to deprive themselves so much.
I only comment with "Good job!"s and "Doing good!"s when they are over 1200 because I don't want to encourage their lack of eating habit. What would be a good way to encourage them to eat more without sounding condescending? Or should I just say nothing at all?
A few of the girls are eating consistently under 1200 (sometimes as low as 800). Now, I know they may just not be adding everything, or just doing it improperly, but I am started to feel very concerned that they are starving themselves. Mine is set to almost 1450 calories/day and I don't normally go under by more than 100 and I eat most of my exercising calories back when I exercise. I am eating a lot, compared to them, but still losing my pound/week. With being able to lose weight at this calorie intake, it makes me wonder why anyone would want to deprive themselves so much.
I only comment with "Good job!"s and "Doing good!"s when they are over 1200 because I don't want to encourage their lack of eating habit. What would be a good way to encourage them to eat more without sounding condescending? Or should I just say nothing at all?
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when i see people eating too little, even just skipping one meal or too low on water intake, i simply tell them something along the lines of
"i see your calories are pretty low. don't make a habit of it because losing weight the unhealthy way usually leads to gaining it back"
just be honest.0 -
First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.
I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".0 -
personally, I'm one of those girls. I'm set at 1200. It is so hard for me to meet 1200. I dont really know why. It's often because im busy so i skip a meal, which is really unhealthy. my breakfast is usually around 150 cals, and im not much of a snacker. but i am in no way starving myself, or trying to at least. im working on it. im jealous of you that you can eat all of your calories. i wish i was in your spot! im working on it, and maybe those girls are like me too, so dont be too quick to judge0
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@ cardillos, very good advice. That's the perfect thing to say.0
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First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.
I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".
Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.
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It may be no more than a weight difference. I am 185 and my cals are set to 1250 per day. I can easily eat well and stay under that. I exercise and add food as well, but that is my base rate.
It depends on their weight and how fast or slow they entered to lose it. But if they are eating lower than 1000 cal a day on a regular basis, then it would not be healthy, and i would agree with you about worrying0 -
I think that this will be a learning experience for them. They will most likely feel starved in the end and not follow through with a lifestyle change. This doesn't have to be a change where you feel you are missing out on food. I like to eat, that is what got me to where I was. Enjoyed every minute of it and am really enjoying the new lifestyle I have now. I eat more/better than I ever have. I love the exercise calories and tend to eat most of them back. Needless to say, I am never hungry.
I think you will just stress yourself out more if you try to counsel them. It is a hard thing to grasp that you have to eat to lose weight, but it does work.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.0 -
Its good to be concerned about your pals, but it may not be such a worry for some as it is for others. I always seem to be under, around the 400 - 900 nett depending on how much exercising I have been doing.
But, I am badly overweight so I feel I can probably afford such a deficit, but if there wasn't much really on your friends in the 1st place it may be different.
Maybe say things like "well done" and throw in a couple of questions like, "if I ate that little I'd feel lightheaded" or similar, you get the drift. They may, in conversation, let out some symptoms like tiredness or headaches which you can use to highlight their low calorie intake.
That way you can be supportive, and also keep an eye out for their welfare.
But, everyones different, maybe they can survive ok at their level, I seem to be doing ok. Just saying0 -
i don't know how they are still standing. things like this make me so sad. not only messing with their metabolism/ metabolic rate..
they can lose their periods--it will also mess with their reproductive system (possibly miscarry if ever get pregnant)
their bones will shrink at a much faster rate from the lack of estrogen
since self starvation is impossible to maintain, when they gain weight, it will be mostly fat (as opposed to a mix of fat & lean tissue)0 -
You guys are great. I was considering deleting them, but I don't want to come off as *****y. I do think I will try to instill some motivation to eat better, but if they don't want to change, I can't make them. I know for myself I am a "momma bear" and get really worried/defensive over people I care about, so removing them would be the best thing for me stress wise if they maintain their low cals.0
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i sometimes break my meals in half for lunch & dinner & i just log it as one depending on if its pasta need more pals that are 1200 cals a day been a tough week drinking water but i'm trying to inprove :-) please add me modavated peeps:)0
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I do this as well, but for me its not because I am trying not to eat. I listen to my body and eat when I am hungry. It varies day to day. Like for the last week I have been right aroung 1000 with today being the first day I was over 1200 in a week. I refuse to force myself to eat when I am not hungry, thats part of how I got to over 300 pounds to begin with. Now if I am only at 800 and after dinner, I may eat a treat, but I am very careful on portion so I don't over indulge so I am not too low on my cals.0
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when i first started this site, i was eating about 1200 calories to kickstart my weight loss (which was probably not the most healthiest of way) & have brought that up to about 1800-20000
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Well... MAYBE I can see an innocent explanation... The calorie budget you set is NET calories (calories consumed - calories burned). I want my net calories to be about 1200 ish BETWEEN working out & exercising (so 25-30 minutes of cardio for me comes up as 300 calories worked off... 1500 - 300 = 1200). Therefore, by setting my Net Calories to 1200 I will only eat 1200 calories on days that I do not work out, but on days that I do work out I'm consuming 1500 to make up for the 300 calorie deficit from hitting the elliptical.
I hope that makes sense.
I decided to just leave mine at 1500 just to ease myself in to eating better, but once I start a regular exercise program, I plan on dropping mine to 1200 to do the above mentioned plan.0 -
For me, personally, it's actually hard for me to eat all of my required calories. It's mainly because up until this point, I'm so used to eating small amounts mainly because that's the way I ate for so long simply out of habit. But, looking at this thread, I will definitely be more aware of increasing my calories! Thanks all! ^-^0
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I eat under 1200 calories a day... I have too, or I will not lose any weight or meet my goals. I drink plenty of water everyday and I do not feel deprived. I do get a little tired of the same diet but I take at least a day or two a week to eat what I want and not follow to closely my calorie intake. I would personally feel terrible if someone deleted me simply because I ate under 1200 calories... I am petite, middle aged, get no exercise who has a sluggish metabolism. I realize that when I start working out I will up my calories accordingly. We are all different with different health issues but our goal here is the same.... to lose weight, feel and be healthy and to find support from others who are walking our same path.0
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Well... MAYBE I can see an innocent explanation... The calorie budget you set is NET calories (calories consumed - calories burned). I want my net calories to be about 1200 ish BETWEEN working out & exercising (so 25-30 minutes of cardio for me comes up as 300 calories worked off... 1500 - 300 = 1200). Therefore, by setting my Net Calories to 1200 I will only eat 1200 calories on days that I do not work out, but on days that I do work out I'm consuming 1500 to make up for the 300 calorie deficit from hitting the elliptical.
I hope that makes sense.
I decided to just leave mine at 1500 just to ease myself in to eating better, but once I start a regular exercise program, I plan on dropping mine to 1200 to do the above mentioned plan.
I keep my net cals around 1300-1400, but that is not what I am referring to. I mean people eating 800-1200 calories with NO exercise.0 -
The No exercise part may be their issue. For a small female, 1200 calories could seem like a lot of food if they are not very active during the day. I would comment on the low calories and ask them to be careful. As a young woman recovering from an eating disorder, I know how tempting it probably is for them to severely restrict with hopes of quicker weight loss. A concerned friend may help them try to stay healthier.0
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I think that this will be a learning experience for them. They will most likely feel starved in the end and not follow through with a lifestyle change. This doesn't have to be a change where you feel you are missing out on food. I like to eat, that is what got me to where I was. Enjoyed every minute of it and am really enjoying the new lifestyle I have now. I eat more/better than I ever have. I love the exercise calories and tend to eat most of them back. Needless to say, I am never hungry.
I think you will just stress yourself out more if you try to counsel them. It is a hard thing to grasp that you have to eat to lose weight, but it does work.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I am agreeing with this because its definitely not worth the stress of trying to counsel them... the other person/people are making choices for theirself - if its counter productive, there is really only so much you can say to them.... and then we could come off as those individuals who tell us "you shouldnt have to lose any weight, you look fine" or the classic "youre too skinny"....
Then - you have to consider the fact that life can get in the way sometimes. I work as a chef for a living, just leaving my second job in healthcare from a layoff. Sometimes we can get a meal break, and other times, forget it - it just doesnt happen because of getting slammed with business. For me tonight, I not only had two low-carb meals, but I sure as hell got one workout from speed walking back and forth from station to kitchen... kitchen to basement, back to station and then some... my legs, feet, thighs and rear are tight as hell from the extra workout that normally doesnt happen for me on a Tuesday night.... I was only capable of grabbing a 20 minute break which meant a salad with chicken, and fresh lemon for dressing. Quick, actually filling where its more fiber and low carb... but, thats all I could actually grab...
I dont always eat under 1200, but a night like tonight, Im lucky to have grabbed maybe 900 calories worth, the exercise then brought my actual intake down to a very low caloric number. I may grab some protein though before jumping in my shower, but honestly I am definitely not hungry and its often hard to eat something when youre not hungry at all.
I definitely dont want to assume the people in my friends list are purposely making bad choices because I know life can get in the way... it sure does for me and HELL, Im AROUND FOOD ALL THE TIME! LOL!!!! They had prime rib, oven roasted ham, whole chickens... and I couldnt TOUCH it because I was too busy making gourmet pizzas! DAMNIT! LOL!0 -
Due to my weight I had lots of calories to start with. Dr put me on a 1200 calorie diet. I don't always do it, because I feel intimidated by that number for some reason. So I try to stay between there and MFP numbers. I will say for me it is hard to hit the 1200 mark, I am usually under or over for some reason but not usually at 1200. From my experience there is NO reason to be under 1200. I know the days I was under it was because of all my low calorie choices. There are higher calorie food choices that are still not bad food choices. So in my case it is just learning how to adjust the low cal/ high cal eating. Bottom line....for me... I need to plan ahead. Its what works best for me.0
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Well as the calories we estimate are usually under what we eat, I would say 1000-1100 calories is close enough.
I know today I estimated the calories in the muesli I had at a cafe by looking up one that I thought might be similar. I could be 200 calories out, easy.
And maybe they zig zag their calories? 800 one day, 1400 the next.
If you think it's dangerous though (ie 5 days of very low calories) maybe say something like, 'hey are you tracking all your food? cos it seems to be pretty low in calories and i'm worried about your health'
or delete them as another poster said.0 -
It's a bit hard for me to meet net 1200 calories if I stick to the macro ratio I set for Carb/Protein/Fat (30/40/30). I find it too easy to hit my fat and carb but it's so hard to meet my protein. >.< If you just look at my diary, you'll see that I eat A LOT of real food for my main meal of the day. Yet I still cannot hit 1200 easily. I can increase Meal 4 caloric intake but it's so hard to find something that HIGH protein, LOW carb and LOW fat.
I can go back to the default setting and that will help me go to 1200 easily (starch is so easy to obtain). I'm not sure if I want to hit such high carb level though (55%?)0 -
I think she is not jugding, but she is looking for support. Obviously looking at other's people's diaries can make you feel like you're not eating healthy enough or too much, but don't worry! 1200 cal a day is the way to go. I'm sure 800 is way too low and maybe they omitted something.
Just keep up the exercise and with the 1200 a day! You're doing fine!0 -
First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.
I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".
Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.
I love the preaching and the judgement! That's exactly what I come here for!
I don't suppose it's ever occured to you that someone's doctor may have told them to be at a certain calorie level and that's what they are trying to hit? My doctor has told me that as long as I net at least 700 calories, it's fine. Obviously I strive to be closer to the 1200 that is outlined by MFP. But MFP is not the be all and end all of fitness and health advice!
Just a thought or two from the peanut gallery...0 -
i think its a shame that you would consider deleting someone just because they dont eat what you condsider to be a healthy number of calories. there could be a number of reasons but it seems really judgemental to me. i hope my mfp friends arnt like this- il keep an eye out for who deletes me-ive been low on my cals this week.0
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When i started MFP i was a vegetarian and could easily go over my 1400 cals allowance. Im now vegan with about 80% of my foods raw/juiced, that said i must admit that its very hard (to the point of gluttony) to meet 1200 cals every day UNLESS i eat processed foods, which im not in favor of. I try hard to meet the 1200 cals but its very difficult for me.
I honestly couldnt care less if someone deleted me for being under, Im here for me, not to please people and unless they walk on my shoes a mile, their self righteousness is best kept elsewhere.
Not saying that to offend, but unless you had some constructive criticism, i'd just go ahead and delete them, i dont see that friendship helping either one of you.0 -
Wow that is incredibly nosy! I don't even log how much water I drink but I surely do not need someone nagging me about it no matter how little I drink. And skipping one meal is enough to get a condescending comment from you? I would definitely delete you the first time that happened. There is supportive and there is meddling.when i see people eating too little, even just skipping one meal or too low on water intake, i simply tell them something along the lines of
"i see your calories are pretty low. don't make a habit of it because losing weight the unhealthy way usually leads to gaining it back"
just be honest.0 -
Wow that is incredibly nosy! I don't even log how much water I drink but I surely do not need someone nagging me about it no matter how little I drink. And skipping one meal is enough to get a condescending comment from you? I would definitely delete you the first time that happened. There is supportive and there is meddling.when i see people eating too little, even just skipping one meal or too low on water intake, i simply tell them something along the lines of
"i see your calories are pretty low. don't make a habit of it because losing weight the unhealthy way usually leads to gaining it back"
just be honest.
This was my thought as well. I guess I'm just a casual user of MFP, because I don't religiously log every calorie I eat or burn. I certainly don't scrutinize the food diaries of people on my friends list unless they are asking why they aren't losing weight.
I guess my advice would be: if they ask your opinion, give it. Otherwise, why concern yourself with someone else's food diary?0 -
I keep my diary private because of people like you. You are being judgmental and disguising it as concern. Delete them if the way they eat makes you uncomfortable.0
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First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.
I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".
Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.
I love the preaching and the judgement! That's exactly what I come here for!
I don't suppose it's ever occured to you that someone's doctor may have told them to be at a certain calorie level and that's what they are trying to hit? My doctor has told me that as long as I net at least 700 calories, it's fine. Obviously I strive to be closer to the 1200 that is outlined by MFP. But MFP is not the be all and end all of fitness and health advice!
Just a thought or two from the peanut gallery...
Hmm as a healthcare provider myself I would question whether that is medically safe. Sure you may lose weight, but will you be able to keep it off. Why not do it the healthy way. I know that medically supervised low calorie diets are out there ... but very few patients actually keep the weight off.
Please remember that just because a doctor recommends it, doesn't always mean that its right. Doctors generally have very little training in diet, exercise, and nutrition.0
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