Eating under 1200 calories

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  • Bluestar083
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    Well as the calories we estimate are usually under what we eat, I would say 1000-1100 calories is close enough.
    I know today I estimated the calories in the muesli I had at a cafe by looking up one that I thought might be similar. I could be 200 calories out, easy.
    And maybe they zig zag their calories? 800 one day, 1400 the next.
    If you think it's dangerous though (ie 5 days of very low calories) maybe say something like, 'hey are you tracking all your food? cos it seems to be pretty low in calories and i'm worried about your health'
    or delete them as another poster said.
  • leenites
    leenites Posts: 166 Member
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    It's a bit hard for me to meet net 1200 calories if I stick to the macro ratio I set for Carb/Protein/Fat (30/40/30). I find it too easy to hit my fat and carb but it's so hard to meet my protein. >.< If you just look at my diary, you'll see that I eat A LOT of real food for my main meal of the day. Yet I still cannot hit 1200 easily. I can increase Meal 4 caloric intake but it's so hard to find something that HIGH protein, LOW carb and LOW fat.

    I can go back to the default setting and that will help me go to 1200 easily (starch is so easy to obtain). I'm not sure if I want to hit such high carb level though (55%?)
  • Christina1007
    Christina1007 Posts: 179 Member
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    I think she is not jugding, but she is looking for support. Obviously looking at other's people's diaries can make you feel like you're not eating healthy enough or too much, but don't worry! 1200 cal a day is the way to go. I'm sure 800 is way too low and maybe they omitted something.

    Just keep up the exercise and with the 1200 a day! You're doing fine!
  • CityOnAHill
    CityOnAHill Posts: 136 Member
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    First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.

    I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".

    Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.

    :)

    I love the preaching and the judgement! That's exactly what I come here for!

    I don't suppose it's ever occured to you that someone's doctor may have told them to be at a certain calorie level and that's what they are trying to hit? My doctor has told me that as long as I net at least 700 calories, it's fine. Obviously I strive to be closer to the 1200 that is outlined by MFP. But MFP is not the be all and end all of fitness and health advice!

    Just a thought or two from the peanut gallery...
  • mrshickey
    mrshickey Posts: 239
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    i think its a shame that you would consider deleting someone just because they dont eat what you condsider to be a healthy number of calories. there could be a number of reasons but it seems really judgemental to me. i hope my mfp friends arnt like this- il keep an eye out for who deletes me-ive been low on my cals this week.
  • nani726
    nani726 Posts: 70 Member
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    When i started MFP i was a vegetarian and could easily go over my 1400 cals allowance. Im now vegan with about 80% of my foods raw/juiced, that said i must admit that its very hard (to the point of gluttony) to meet 1200 cals every day UNLESS i eat processed foods, which im not in favor of. I try hard to meet the 1200 cals but its very difficult for me.
    I honestly couldnt care less if someone deleted me for being under, Im here for me, not to please people and unless they walk on my shoes a mile, their self righteousness is best kept elsewhere.
    Not saying that to offend, but unless you had some constructive criticism, i'd just go ahead and delete them, i dont see that friendship helping either one of you.
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
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    when i see people eating too little, even just skipping one meal or too low on water intake, i simply tell them something along the lines of

    "i see your calories are pretty low. don't make a habit of it because losing weight the unhealthy way usually leads to gaining it back"

    just be honest.
    Wow that is incredibly nosy! I don't even log how much water I drink but I surely do not need someone nagging me about it no matter how little I drink. And skipping one meal is enough to get a condescending comment from you? I would definitely delete you the first time that happened. There is supportive and there is meddling.
  • shinybonnie
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    when i see people eating too little, even just skipping one meal or too low on water intake, i simply tell them something along the lines of

    "i see your calories are pretty low. don't make a habit of it because losing weight the unhealthy way usually leads to gaining it back"

    just be honest.
    Wow that is incredibly nosy! I don't even log how much water I drink but I surely do not need someone nagging me about it no matter how little I drink. And skipping one meal is enough to get a condescending comment from you? I would definitely delete you the first time that happened. There is supportive and there is meddling.

    This was my thought as well. I guess I'm just a casual user of MFP, because I don't religiously log every calorie I eat or burn. I certainly don't scrutinize the food diaries of people on my friends list unless they are asking why they aren't losing weight.

    I guess my advice would be: if they ask your opinion, give it. Otherwise, why concern yourself with someone else's food diary?
  • _Peacebone_
    _Peacebone_ Posts: 229 Member
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    I keep my diary private because of people like you. You are being judgmental and disguising it as concern. Delete them if the way they eat makes you uncomfortable.
  • emmaleigh47
    emmaleigh47 Posts: 1,670 Member
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    First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.

    I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".

    Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.

    :)

    I love the preaching and the judgement! That's exactly what I come here for!

    I don't suppose it's ever occured to you that someone's doctor may have told them to be at a certain calorie level and that's what they are trying to hit? My doctor has told me that as long as I net at least 700 calories, it's fine. Obviously I strive to be closer to the 1200 that is outlined by MFP. But MFP is not the be all and end all of fitness and health advice!

    Just a thought or two from the peanut gallery...

    Hmm as a healthcare provider myself I would question whether that is medically safe. Sure you may lose weight, but will you be able to keep it off. Why not do it the healthy way. I know that medically supervised low calorie diets are out there ... but very few patients actually keep the weight off.
    Please remember that just because a doctor recommends it, doesn't always mean that its right. Doctors generally have very little training in diet, exercise, and nutrition.
  • CityOnAHill
    CityOnAHill Posts: 136 Member
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    First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.

    I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".

    Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.

    :)

    I love the preaching and the judgement! That's exactly what I come here for!

    I don't suppose it's ever occured to you that someone's doctor may have told them to be at a certain calorie level and that's what they are trying to hit? My doctor has told me that as long as I net at least 700 calories, it's fine. Obviously I strive to be closer to the 1200 that is outlined by MFP. But MFP is not the be all and end all of fitness and health advice!

    Just a thought or two from the peanut gallery...

    Hmm as a healthcare provider myself I would question whether that is medically safe. Sure you may lose weight, but will you be able to keep it off. Why not do it the healthy way. I know that medically supervised low calorie diets are out there ... but very few patients actually keep the weight off.
    Please remember that just because a doctor recommends it, doesn't always mean that its right. Doctors generally have very little training in diet, exercise, and nutrition.

    I'm not trying to stay at 700 calories. I was simply trying to convey that being under 1200 calories is not encessarily unhealthy. Further, my docotor specialized in nutrition so I trust her judgement. She wasn't suggesting that I only eat 700 calories; the discussion was about not being able to hit 1200 calories and coming in closer to 850-1050 on a daily basis.

    I'm not on a VLCD; not by a long shot. A lot of people, like me, have a hard time eating all of that healthy food. I could easily consume 1200 calories going to McDonald's; but that's not the goal is it? The goal is to eat healthier options.

    My concern was for the judgement. The OP canot know the story and the plight of everyone on this site. And deleting someone because of their food diary is silly; deleting someone because they aren't supportive or worse yet are sabatoging you, that makes sense.

    Again, just a part of the peanut gallary here...
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
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    First time I say something. Second or maybe third time I say something again. After that, I delete them.

    I recognize that everyone is different and going about this their own way but there are limits to my acceptance. If I don't feel like I can support you I don't see a reason for us to be "friends".

    Yet again ... reasons I love ya! I agree with you and I have deleted people who insist on recurrent unhealthy habits. I am not perfect by any sort, but I think we should be encouraging healthy behaviors. I also cannot say "good job" to someone who is eating 700 calories either.

    :)

    I love the preaching and the judgement! That's exactly what I come here for!

    I don't suppose it's ever occured to you that someone's doctor may have told them to be at a certain calorie level and that's what they are trying to hit? My doctor has told me that as long as I net at least 700 calories, it's fine. Obviously I strive to be closer to the 1200 that is outlined by MFP. But MFP is not the be all and end all of fitness and health advice!

    Just a thought or two from the peanut gallery...

    Hmm as a healthcare provider myself I would question whether that is medically safe. Sure you may lose weight, but will you be able to keep it off. Why not do it the healthy way. I know that medically supervised low calorie diets are out there ... but very few patients actually keep the weight off.
    Please remember that just because a doctor recommends it, doesn't always mean that its right. Doctors generally have very little training in diet, exercise, and nutrition.

    I'm not trying to stay at 700 calories. I was simply trying to convey that being under 1200 calories is not encessarily unhealthy. Further, my docotor specialized in nutrition so I trust her judgement. She wasn't suggesting that I only eat 700 calories; the discussion was about not being able to hit 1200 calories and coming in closer to 850-1050 on a daily basis.

    I'm not on a VLCD; not by a long shot. A lot of people, like me, have a hard time eating all of that healthy food. I could easily consume 1200 calories going to McDonald's; but that's not the goal is it? The goal is to eat healthier options.

    My concern was for the judgement. The OP canot know the story and the plight of everyone on this site. And deleting someone because of their food diary is silly; deleting someone because they aren't supportive or worse yet are sabatoging you, that makes sense.

    Again, just a part of the peanut gallary here...

    This and other related posts are EXACTLY what I was talking about... life gets in the way, everyone is different than other people... why make the unnecessary assumption?

    Sweetpeach - my Endo also has a nutritional background that has helped many patients even get out of needing a surgical intervention - I absolutely love her and trust her judgement - she wasnt even phased when I reported in my recent 5# loss - 13.4lbs gone in five weeks - and she knows everything I have consumed - even the low calorie days, and understands what I do for a living is actually HELPING!

    ***Sits on the no-assumption bench with Sweetpeach
  • seventwenty
    seventwenty Posts: 565 Member
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    What is a good number for a mid 20s male? I have my weight loss goal set at 2lbs/wk. I feel if I did less aggressive goal, I would not take weight loss seriously. My caloric allowance is 1340 calories/day, and my average intake is 1,600-1,700 calories/day, and I bike daily, with an average bike ride being around 500 calories. A few more vitals to paint the picture: I am a short guy, 5'7'', weigh around 170, have a medium build and not trying to bulk up so much as lean and tone (trying to lose the college beer drinking memories). My calories, looking at the last few weekly reports, appear to be a bit higher on carbs (57-58%), a bit lower on fat (28-29%), and a bit lower on protein (13-14%).
  • thenewme1972
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    I have not been able to read everyone's replies, so I hope I'm not repeating anyone's comments. But, I am post gastric bypass (GB). I've already lost 117 lbs. I need to lose another 117 (or so pounds) to get to my goal weight. Instead of Weight Watchers, my surgeon's office suggested I use this site to monitor my caloric, protein, excercise, etc. intake. GB folks are supposed to take many vitamins and supplements to make sure their body is getting enough of the essentials. Because their new tummies are smaller, the intake will be smaller and sometimes not what the normal tummy can take in. Maybe some people are post GB surgery as well, are taking supplements, or just have really GREAT will power and can do less calories. Or, perhaps they're eating 2,000 calories a day and exercising alot. :flowerforyou:
  • herstrawberri
    herstrawberri Posts: 347 Member
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    I totally agree with the 'no assumptions people'. This site is supposed to be for encouragement and support NOT for judgement. I have a terrible time with my food. Some days I barely make 900 cals, while others I eat over 1200. I think everyone is different. While I'm sure some DO starve themselves for the weight loss, i think others, like myself, are dealing with outside factors. I'm taking care of a sick father, full time student, and dealing with my own issues with food. You NEVER know what someone is going through or dealing with and should NOT judge them. I struggle every day to just remember to eat. Weight loss is a journey, an evolution, and you learn along the way. I will learn how to juggle all my crap and get my cals back up there but in the meantime, i would HOPE the people who are my 'friends' would support me. All someone can do is try. And if I have to try every day until i get it right, FOR ME, I will. No one is perfect or has the magic cure for weight loss. I'm sure there is something in all of your lives that you do that might not be the best for you, how would you like it if someone judged you for that?????
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    I totally agree with the 'no assumptions people'. This site is supposed to be for encouragement and support NOT for judgement. I have a terrible time with my food. Some days I barely make 900 cals, while others I eat over 1200. I think everyone is different. While I'm sure some DO starve themselves for the weight loss, i think others, like myself, are dealing with outside factors. I'm taking care of a sick father, full time student, and dealing with my own issues with food. You NEVER know what someone is going through or dealing with and should NOT judge them. I struggle every day to just remember to eat. Weight loss is a journey, an evolution, and you learn along the way. I will learn how to juggle all my crap and get my cals back up there but in the meantime, i would HOPE the people who are my 'friends' would support me. All someone can do is try. And if I have to try every day until i get it right, FOR ME, I will. No one is perfect or has the magic cure for weight loss. I'm sure there is something in all of your lives that you do that might not be the best for you, how would you like it if someone judged you for that?????

    You say you're struggling to get your calories up, and you know you don't eat enough, so what's more supportive? Somebody who points out that your calories are too low and tries to help you find ways to get them up? Or someone who just blindly praises you for eating too little because you have other things on your mind? If you keep rationalizing why you can't do something, you'll never succeed.
  • herstrawberri
    herstrawberri Posts: 347 Member
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    I totally agree with the 'no assumptions people'. This site is supposed to be for encouragement and support NOT for judgement. I have a terrible time with my food. Some days I barely make 900 cals, while others I eat over 1200. I think everyone is different. While I'm sure some DO starve themselves for the weight loss, i think others, like myself, are dealing with outside factors. I'm taking care of a sick father, full time student, and dealing with my own issues with food. You NEVER know what someone is going through or dealing with and should NOT judge them. I struggle every day to just remember to eat. Weight loss is a journey, an evolution, and you learn along the way. I will learn how to juggle all my crap and get my cals back up there but in the meantime, i would HOPE the people who are my 'friends' would support me. All someone can do is try. And if I have to try every day until i get it right, FOR ME, I will. No one is perfect or has the magic cure for weight loss. I'm sure there is something in all of your lives that you do that might not be the best for you, how would you like it if someone judged you for that?????

    You say you're struggling to get your calories up, and you know you don't eat enough, so what's more supportive? Somebody who points out that your calories are too low and tries to help you find ways to get them up? Or someone who just blindly praises you for eating too little because you have other things on your mind? If you keep rationalizing why you can't do something, you'll never succeed.

    Actually, I AM succeeding. I have lost over 85 lbs. I have also overcome severe depression and anxiety. I'm ALSO overcoming a severe eating disorder. SO. PLEASE ask me again if I'm trying to succeed? THIS is exactly what is wrong with this post. You jump to conclusions, automatically assuming I'm FAILING because I'm not eating enough. AND, the people in this post are talking about deleting buddies because they aren't eating enough without even considering the underlying issues. NOT trying to encourage or help them. That was also my point. Pointing fingers and persecuting people is NOT the answer. I'm not rationalizing. It's my reality. Do YOU have all the answers? Is YOUR life perfect and you know how to deal with every little thing that comes up to where you are not stressed out at all? Because if you are, please enlighten me.
  • DottieNewton
    DottieNewton Posts: 112 Member
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    Well I am just starting here-4th day--and I find it difficult to eat those 1200 calories--because I am eating protein, raw fruits and veggies, and whole grain low-cal bread. Yesterday, I did eat over 1200 but still under with my exercise. I agree with I am not going to overeat--that is how I have gotten to this point of being 100lbs overweight. and I too need to break that habit. Before, when on diets i still stuffed but with healthy food. Never breaking the habit. So, I also am going to eat when I am hungry and if not I am not going to eat. It is not a mental desire--but, rather a physical need I wish to meet.

    I fully understand a person having a starving mentality---there is a vast differnce between eating when hungry and staring yourself.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    I totally agree with the 'no assumptions people'. This site is supposed to be for encouragement and support NOT for judgement. I have a terrible time with my food. Some days I barely make 900 cals, while others I eat over 1200. I think everyone is different. While I'm sure some DO starve themselves for the weight loss, i think others, like myself, are dealing with outside factors. I'm taking care of a sick father, full time student, and dealing with my own issues with food. You NEVER know what someone is going through or dealing with and should NOT judge them. I struggle every day to just remember to eat. Weight loss is a journey, an evolution, and you learn along the way. I will learn how to juggle all my crap and get my cals back up there but in the meantime, i would HOPE the people who are my 'friends' would support me. All someone can do is try. And if I have to try every day until i get it right, FOR ME, I will. No one is perfect or has the magic cure for weight loss. I'm sure there is something in all of your lives that you do that might not be the best for you, how would you like it if someone judged you for that?????

    You say you're struggling to get your calories up, and you know you don't eat enough, so what's more supportive? Somebody who points out that your calories are too low and tries to help you find ways to get them up? Or someone who just blindly praises you for eating too little because you have other things on your mind? If you keep rationalizing why you can't do something, you'll never succeed.

    Actually, I AM succeeding. I have lost over 85 lbs. I have also overcome severe depression and anxiety. I'm ALSO overcoming a severe eating disorder. SO. PLEASE ask me again if I'm trying to succeed? THIS is exactly what is wrong with this post. You jump to conclusions, automatically assuming I'm FAILING because I'm not eating enough. AND, the people in this post are talking about deleting buddies because they aren't eating enough without even considering the underlying issues. NOT trying to encourage or help them. That was also my point. Pointing fingers and persecuting people is NOT the answer. I'm not rationalizing. It's my reality. Do YOU have all the answers? Is YOUR life perfect and you know how to deal with every little thing that comes up to where you are not stressed out at all? Because if you are, please enlighten me.

    Who said anything about you failing? I asked a simple question, would you rather have someone blindly praise you? Or try and help you reach your ultimate goal you've set for yourself? You didn't answer my question at all, you just immediately jumped to a conclusion about what I was talking about, which is nowhere near what I asked. Kind of ironic, really.

    I don't know everything, I don't pretend to know everything. I have friends who comment, good, bad, or indifferent, and I learn from what everyone has to say. Support isn't just telling people blindly "YAY GOOD JOB!" Support is helping people improve and get better. You say you're recovering from an ED, does that mean people who know you and are friends with you shouldn't criticize or get concerned when you don't eat enough calories? If anything they should speak up more, out of a potential concern for your well being and the always there potential for relapse.
  • herstrawberri
    herstrawberri Posts: 347 Member
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    Obviously someone giving POSITVE feedback is better them someone praising something that is unhealthy. I get positive feedback on my food journal all the time. You can be concerned and try to help and be positive at the same time. This is supposed to be a helpful site, not a site that judges people before they know exactly what is going on. While we will prob never truly know what is going on with people so I try my hardest not to judge anyone. People talking about deleting their buddies simply because they don't eat enough really upset me. Because what if that ONE person you deleted really needed support and guidance to eating better? That is all i was trying to say. I'm sensitive about this subject because I get crap all the time. But no one knows how hard i try every day. all they see is my food being under 1200. Rationalizing my current situation helps ME because I KNOW what issues I have with food and it helps me deal with them. Maybe it seems like excuses to YOU or someone else, but not to me. When I read your response, all I read was someone basically attacking me for what I said. Maybe that was wrong, but that is how I took it. I appreciate your honesty and maybe I'm just too sensitive about this subject.