Sixers TRICKIN' Out Wk 3
chipper15173
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Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 148.0lbs / PROGRESS 0.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 239.2 lbs / PROGRESS +3.2 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 174.0 lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 179.5 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs
Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 148.0lbs / PROGRESS 0.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 239.2 lbs / PROGRESS +3.2 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 174.0 lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 179.5 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs
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This challenge is so not going the way I want. Up is definitely the wrong direction in this case. Aarrgghh. But I'm gonna stick it out. Hopefully Wednesday will be a better weigh-in.0
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Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 239.2 lbs / PROGRESS +3.2 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 174.0 lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 179.5 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs0 -
Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 237.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.6 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 174.0 lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 179.5 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs0 -
i lost some of what i gained.
the number on the scale isn't ever going to read what we would like it to read. if we do see it say the magic number we will want to see it say even a lower number. there will never be an ending number. so if you are waiting for that magic number don't hold your breath. cause you just might miss it anyway.
i weigh the most of the group, and what i wouldn't give to weight an average of everyone here. this is a hard and complicated task. it's just a dam number on the scale. don't let it run your day or life. life it too short for crap like that. just because most people see a high number they ASSUME you were bad and didn't eat right or exercise. don't feel like you are on trial for the scale going up. some times you just don't know. we don't wear our number on our foreheads.
i will now crawl back into my hole.0 -
i lost some of what i gained.
the number on the scale isn't ever going to read what we would like it to read. if we do see it say the magic number we will want to see it say even a lower number. there will never be an ending number. so if you are waiting for that magic number don't hold your breath. cause you just might miss it anyway.
i weigh the most of the group, and what i wouldn't give to weight an average of everyone here. this is a hard and complicated task. it's just a dam number on the scale. don't let it run your day or life. life it too short for crap like that. just because most people see a high number they ASSUME you were bad and didn't eat right or exercise. don't feel like you are on trial for the scale going up. some times you just don't know. we don't wear our number on our foreheads.
i will now crawl back into my hole.
Come back out....YOU are exactly what I need. Those words are so true and the kick in the butt I needed to pick myself up today. I can ALWAYS count on you Cathy. (BIG HUGS AND KISSES)0 -
Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 237.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.6 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 171.4 lbs / PROGRESS -3.6 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 179.5 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs0 -
i lost some of what i gained.
the number on the scale isn't ever going to read what we would like it to read. if we do see it say the magic number we will want to see it say even a lower number. there will never be an ending number. so if you are waiting for that magic number don't hold your breath. cause you just might miss it anyway.
i weigh the most of the group, and what i wouldn't give to weight an average of everyone here. this is a hard and complicated task. it's just a dam number on the scale. don't let it run your day or life. life it too short for crap like that. just because most people see a high number they ASSUME you were bad and didn't eat right or exercise. don't feel like you are on trial for the scale going up. some times you just don't know. we don't wear our number on our foreheads.
i will now crawl back into my hole.
Come back out....YOU are exactly what I need. Those words are so true and the kick in the butt I needed to pick myself up today. I can ALWAYS count on you Cathy. (BIG HUGS AND KISSES)
^ this! Cathy - you are amazing - you work hard and kick butt - don't worry about the number ... you did however lose almost 2 lbs this week...
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Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 237.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.6 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 171.4 lbs / PROGRESS -3.6 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 180.0 lbs / PROGRESS +0.5 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs0 -
Oops! Wrong way! LOL. Stuck in a rut and need to get myself together and get out of it. Maybe I finally hit a plateau, or it's the little things I snack on,
Need to start tracking everything and get back into the groove again. But, as we all know, when your ready is the best time.
Well, gotta get back to work and track my foodage for the day.
Have a great day ladies!!!0 -
Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 237.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.6 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 171.4 lbs / PROGRESS -3.6 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 180.0 lbs / PROGRESS +0.5 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 198.8 lbs / PROGRESS +1.1 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs0 -
Good morning ladies!!
AMY....YAY!! So glad you decided to finally share your good news!!! (It's so hard for me to keep secrets!) Congrats for week 12!! I'm sure you will start to feel better soon. It was around that time I started to feel better in the evenings...and now I for the most part feel great all the time!!!
Well...last night was yoga for me, Sunday I did my stregth/cardio workout, Saturday I walked the Race for the Cure 5K. So, I'm doing okay. The scale didn't change this week, which is good because I don't want to gain much more the rest of this challenge since I had gained a bit more than planned at the beginning. So, this week I'm trying to be good as far as what I eat and what I do for exercise! Need to stay on track!
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Amy...you should join me on the pregnancy thread...Fit,Fabulous, and Pregnant! http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/357805-fit-fabulous-and-pregnant-october-20110
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nice work kristin - no gain! :happy:
shanell - no worries 0.5 is basically nothing - a good workout and lots of water and you should be right back on track. stay positive :drinker: :bigsmile:0 -
Well, did great with my eating and exercising today. My dessert is going to be a banana protein shake! Maybe I can freeze it a little to make ice cream texture
Going to do great tomorrow too. I need to break this plateau that I'm stuck in.
On a good note, my olderst daughter got passing grades on her report card. She has been struggling for years. She has been tested, but they just tell me she's slow. Poor kid.
My youngest made AB honor roll!!! This is great considering she has ADD and cannot concentrate for long periods.
Have a great night all!!!
Em, thanks! I'm not worried about it. I have been bouncing between 179 and 181 for a couple of months now. But I'm determined to break this cycle!!
Kristin, you are such a cute pregnant lady. I was big with both my babies, so I didn't look cute and preggers like you.0 -
Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 237.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.6 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 171.4 lbs / PROGRESS -3.6 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 180.0 lbs / PROGRESS +0.5 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 199.0 lbs / PROGRESS +1.3 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.0 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs0 -
Clare (Finnhead).......................SW 148.0 lbs / GW 143.0 lbs / CW 147.0lbs / PROGRESS -1.0 lbs
Cathy(chipper)..........................SW 236.0 lbs / GW 229.0 lbs / CW 237.6 lbs / PROGRESS +1.6 lbs
Em (MLEme).............................SW 175.0 lbs / GW 168.0 lbs / CW 171.4 lbs / PROGRESS -3.6 lbs
Shanell (nellienell12)................SW 179.5 lbs / GW 175.5 lbs / CW 180.0 lbs / PROGRESS +0.5 lbs
Kristin (Kistinbee).....................SW 161.0 lbs / GW Grow a baby! / CW 164.0 lbs / PROGRESS + 3.0 lbs
Kim (JDKLove18).....................SW 197.7 lbs / GW 195.0 lbs / CW 199.0 lbs / PROGRESS +1.3 lbs
Lorna (lulabellewoowoo) .........SW 136.6 lbs / GW 133.0 lbs / CW 137.2 lbs / PROGRESS +0.6 lbs
Jennifer (candycaneps)............SW 163.0 lbs /GW 158.0lbs /CW 163.0lbs /PROGRESS +/- 0.00 lbs
Amy (amypyr)...........................SW 155.6 lbs / GW 150.0 lbs / CW 155.6 lbs / PROGRESS +/- 0.0 lbs
Better than any number I had this week and at least not a gain from last week. So maybe next week will be a real loss...0 -
Good morning gals!
Shanell...Thank you!:flowerforyou: But I'm sure you were cute pregnant too! And a banana protein shake sounds great! Yum...and I'll tell you, if you mash up bananas and freeze them, they are like banana ice cream.... top with some sugar free chocolate syrup...YUM!
Well...I am 16 weeks today! YAY! And I've been feeling my munchkin move around lately! Such a great feeling! It's still very slight since he/she is still little (about the size of an avocado now) but being able to feel it at all is wonderful! I go back in 2 weeks for me next appointment and we will schedule my ultrasound! I can't wait!!
Kadence is my little potty-trained girl!! She's doing such a great job! And we put her in her "Big Girl" bed this weekend and she LOVES it!! Now when I ask her who's going to sleep in the crib, she says "sister"...apparently she's decided I am having a girl! Too funny!
Well...last night I managed to get in a jog/walk with Kadence! If felt great! It was like 75 degrees out! Tonight will be my strength/cardio workout.
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Hi All - I WAY over ate last night.. I just couldn't satisfy the hunger... oh well... one bad night isn't going to stop me! Lots of work to do today and then hopefully I'll get a run / walk in tonight with the pups and BF. So far it has been a productive week.
kristin - that is amazing that you can already feel the little one moving around... I guess she wants to get out there and run with you :happy:
Lula, Shanell - great job! keep it up!!!!!!
Kim, Cathy, others - How are you doing this week?0 -
morning sixers
how is everybody? it is raining a lot here and its a right miserable day and i am a bit miserable to match!! got a smacking headache and not feeling well at all :-(
anyway, thats all for me today, might go home at lunch and work from home. hope everyone is well and looking after their bumps (where necessary!!)
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My beautiful 11 year old baby girl came to me last night in tears because of her "big belly". It broke my heart. She wants it GONE. She's 5'4.5" and 125 lb and she has your typical baby fat on her belly because she is only 11. We spent about 30 minutes talking about the quick ways and the smart ways to work on it and what to expect. Since my mother was all diet pills and now in her 60s with multiple plastic surgery "fixes", I have always worried and prayed that I would handle this right with her. So this morning, I am taking 30 minutes off of work, waking her up 30 minutes early, and we are going for a walk. She asked me to help her eat healthier, so no more baking brownies and cupcakes unless a special occasion. Lots and lots of fruits and veggies on hand. No more juices in the house and TONS of cold, refreshing water available. I told her it's not about the "right now", it's about the "and ever after". Any suggestions you lovely ladies have, I would love to hear. New and scary territory for me here.0
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lula....please don't take this harsh or the wrong way. i say this wtih love. kids follow what they see their parents doing. they don't unfortunately come preprogrammed with "do as i say, not as i do". so we need to teach them. i grew up in a strict household in the 60/70's. i swore i wouldn't raise my kids that way. well, i didn't, and now i wish i was more in control. i could give all kinds of excuses now as to why i did what i did. YOU have to give example, by doing, discussing. she will follow suit, she's young enough. does she know you are afraid of the scale? does she hear you when you talk about your body dislikes? she will come around. get the stuff out of the house. if others are going to complain. than learn and teach her to control her eating. BUT, most important. teach and show her how to love herself no matter what she looks like. to learn to love the "dislikes" she has of herself. to accept yourself is the first step in healing yourself. she isn't by far over weight for her height. she still has a lot of growing up to do. after all she is only eleven.
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Lula. Cathy really has said it better than I ever could... stay strong and lead by being a good example... this morning was a perfect example... getting up early and going for a nice walk (I'm sure she enjoyed the extra time with you too:flowerforyou: ) Just get the junk out, it will help you both... I know I had to... I just don't have the will power right now... (the BF doesn't even notice the change... he he he.. .evil laugh...I have slowly replaced all his junk with healthy snacks etc... ) We are here for you!
Cathy. Great advice, how are you doing?
Clare. It is rainy and nasty here too... makes me want to crawl back into bed... but today is going to be nuts at work.
More later. Back to the grind.0 -
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Not offended at all because I know whatever you offer Cathy is with love and concern. I very specifically do NOT talk about my own issues. I have shown her this site as far as monitoring what I eat and what I don't. I have also explained to her that adults tend to monitor more what they eat and their calorie intake as they get older because their metabolism slows down and it is important to stay more active and more nutritious to battle any illnesses or stresses that come our way. Children don't really need to calorie restrict, but rather can make better choices now so as to make good habits for the future. The scale is even hidden away so that she does not worry about it. I found that the statement came from her stepsister in the other household, which as they are only 6 months apart in age there is the sibling rivalry, but they manage well.lula....please don't take this harsh or the wrong way. i say this wtih love. kids follow what they see their parents doing. they don't unfortunately come preprogrammed with "do as i say, not as i do". so we need to teach them. i grew up in a strict household in the 60/70's. i swore i wouldn't raise my kids that way. well, i didn't, and now i wish i was more in control. i could give all kinds of excuses now as to why i did what i did. YOU have to give example, by doing, discussing. she will follow suit, she's young enough. does she know you are afraid of the scale? does she hear you when you talk about your body dislikes? she will come around. get the stuff out of the house. if others are going to complain. than learn and teach her to control her eating. BUT, most important. teach and show her how to love herself no matter what she looks like. to learn to love the "dislikes" she has of herself. to accept yourself is the first step in healing yourself. she isn't by far over weight for her height. she still has a lot of growing up to do. after all she is only eleven.
good luck to the both of you.
She also knows my history with my mom and the stupid dietary mistakes I made in an effort to be "perfect", and what it cost me or almost cost me (one being I could not get pregnant for a long time). She is actually the one thing that started me on my health kick because I was so thankful for her and wasn't about to blow it.
Anyway, long winded. Lots of early morning reflecting.
I hope you all have a great weekend. Keep strong! You can do it!0 -
lula....i was thinking about this all day yesterday. yup, we as adults have to learn a new lifestyle, change our lifestyle as we age. at her age she can learn it as she grows and that's all she will know. healthy eating and excersie. she won't have to worry about changing it. cause it will be good from the start. ahhh if only we could have a "do over". ask her to help you also. maybe on weekends you guys can go to a state park or something and hike. we are looking back into the hiking with the girls. can't do it in the summer around here. plan a day in advance. have her help with the grocery shopping. if she sees something she wants and you know it's not the best choice. show her why and see if between the two of you, you couldn't find a better replacement. or make a better replacement. "hungry girl" has great recipes and a show on the food network on sundays. enjoy your together time. no matter what anyone says, we are who we are, mind, body, and sole. and if people don't like it, they don't need to be in your life. you don't want people around you who bring you down.
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Good morning!!
Quick update...did my strength/cardio workout last night! YAY! Tonight we are going to the in-laws for pizza and carving pumpkins...so probably no exercise on the agenda for today. But I will be doing probably strength and yoga tomorrow! Have a great day and a wonderful weekend!!0 -
Hi ladies. Just wanted to check in. I've been blessed with a horribly massive head cold/virus. All thanks to my BF. He was lucky enough to take days off of work, I however was not. Unfortunately, this has left me with little energy or motivation to exercise. And the scale can tell. I'm very not happy with the reading this morning, but I'll wait to see what it looks like on weigh in day. Hopefully by then I'll be feeling better and more motivated!
Hope you all have a wonderful weekend! Anyone else have snow in their forecast?????0 -
Good morning ladies! I have been doing GREAT with my eating! I have been tracking everything and doing something physically everyday. So far down a pound! Got into a couple of jeans last night too, that were a little tight a couple of months ago. Even got into a size 10 last night!!!!
Unfortanately, my trainer had to cancel our training session for today do to a death. She just had her mother's funeral this week, then came back to town and found out that a close friend of hers, mother passed away this week. So sad. She called me crying yesterday.
So, that means ZUMBA!!! I love the trainer on Friday's! She is great!
Lulla, glad to here you are helping your kiddo. Maybe she picked up some of that stuff from TV or school since you do keep it hush hush at home.
Anyway's, have a great day! Gotta do that thing they call work now, lol!0
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