So, Why are we supposed to eat back our exercise calories?
sunshinesher01
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So I know it is a pretty even split when it comes to opinons on whether or not we should eat back our exercise calories. So I have some questions. I am new to this.
So for those of you who say EAT BACK YOUR EXERCISE CALORIES..... What is the point in exercise? I mean... I am supposed to eat 1500 caloires a day. And that is to lose 2lbs a week. I can eat 1500 and be full all day long. So some people say to eat more, they exercise. Or if you go over your calories, do some exercise. But if you don't fall into either of those categories what is the point? I personally love to work out... but then if I have to eat those calories back, I feel like I am undoing all of my hard work. So part of me understands, and the other part doesn't.
I know some of you have some real strong opionons about this, and I am not trying to start a war here. I just want help understanding. I am the type of person who has to know the whys and the hows before I can put it into action. You can tell me "eat all your exercise calories back" until you are blue in the face, but I wont feel right about doing it, until I understand why. And why it makes a difference. And until I make sure it doesn't "undo" what I just did at the gym.
Thank you all for your support and kind words! I am on the right track, now its just time for some health education!
So for those of you who say EAT BACK YOUR EXERCISE CALORIES..... What is the point in exercise? I mean... I am supposed to eat 1500 caloires a day. And that is to lose 2lbs a week. I can eat 1500 and be full all day long. So some people say to eat more, they exercise. Or if you go over your calories, do some exercise. But if you don't fall into either of those categories what is the point? I personally love to work out... but then if I have to eat those calories back, I feel like I am undoing all of my hard work. So part of me understands, and the other part doesn't.
I know some of you have some real strong opionons about this, and I am not trying to start a war here. I just want help understanding. I am the type of person who has to know the whys and the hows before I can put it into action. You can tell me "eat all your exercise calories back" until you are blue in the face, but I wont feel right about doing it, until I understand why. And why it makes a difference. And until I make sure it doesn't "undo" what I just did at the gym.
Thank you all for your support and kind words! I am on the right track, now its just time for some health education!
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i have been trying to figure this out all day today as well can't wait to see the results0
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All I know is, these last few days I started eating my exercise calories back, and I gained 3 lbs when I was dropping the weight before.
Can anyone tell me why that happened?0 -
So for those of you who say EAT BACK YOUR EXERCISE CALORIES..... What is the point in exercise? I mean... I am supposed to eat 1500 caloires a day. And that is to lose 2lbs a week. I can eat 1500 and be full all day long. So some people say to eat more, they exercise. Or if you go over your calories, do some exercise. But if you don't fall into either of those categories what is the point? I personally love to work out... but then if I have to eat those calories back, I feel like I am undoing all of my hard work. So part of me understands, and the other part doesn't.
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Have a look at how MFP is set up. Your DAILY calorie goal is given to you where you "could" lose your weight at your chosen rate of loss (0.5 lb 1lb 1.5lb or 2 lbs per week) before lifting a finger in exercise.
Exercising widens that deficit so here on MFP we're intended to eat them back to keep the deficit at a safe sustainable rate of loss.
Other sites "achieve" the same thing by giving you a higher daily calorie goal but expecting your exercise burn to create the deficit leading to the loss.
I find MFP more "realistic" that way because I certainly don't "achieve" working out daily or even the 3 days a week I set in the profile here, but as that number isn't used to "credit" me calories it's not a big deal0 -
The links are in my signature, lots of good information.0
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There are many benefits of exercise besides weight loss. I lift because I like to be strong, good for the bones, and stress. I do cardio for cardiovascular health. Exercising helps spare lean body mass and helps with body composition.
If you are in the obese catagory, and really need to lose weight then it is not 100% necessary to eat back all of you exercise calories.
If you have a huge deficit you are more likely to burn more muscle, causing a skinny fat look at your goal weight, Not so hot xD0 -
Have a look at how MFP is set up. Your DAILY calorie goal is given to you where you "could" lose your weight at your chosen rate of loss (0.5 lb 1lb 1.5lb or 2 lbs per week) before lifting a finger in exercise.
Exercising widens that deficit so here on MFP we're intended to eat them back to keep the deficit at a safe sustainable rate of loss.
Other sites "achieve" the same thing by giving you a higher daily calorie goal but expecting your exercise burn to create the deficit leading to the loss.
I find MFP more "realistic" that way because I certainly don't "achieve" working out daily or even the 3 days a week I set in the profile here, but as that number isn't used to "credit" me calories it's not a big deal0 -
I always sturggled with the question untikl i thought about it in a similar way you said. I eat 1200 calories a day to lose 2lb a week, if I exercise and burn off 400 calories say then that would make my daily intake 800 calories which I consider too low. Personally I do both depending on how I feel, if I've been good all week I will eat back my calories but if I have had a bad day or an unhealhtier meal than normal I won't eat them back - its personal preference really0
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All I know is, these last few days I started eating my exercise calories back, and I gained 3 lbs when I was dropping the weight before.
Can anyone tell me why that happened?
Go look at your sodium levels. Every time that happened to me in the past it was because even though I was eating my exercise calories back you don' t get more sodium.0 -
MFP already creates a deficit for you in your daily calorie allowance.
If you exercise and don't eat back those calories then you create a deficit that is too big
Read:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/23912-links-in-mfp-you-want-to-read-again-and-again0 -
If used correctly, 1500 cals are enough to eat quite a lot of (healthy) food. I don't eat my exercise calories back or only eat a little (sometimes I use them for a nice dinner at a restaurant, including dessert). I just use them to create an extra deficit that will allow me to get to my goal weight faster. So, even though I have set up a 1lbs/week, working out will give me another lbs and this way I get to lose my desired (almost) 1 kilo per week.0
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All I know is, these last few days I started eating my exercise calories back, and I gained 3 lbs when I was dropping the weight before.
Can anyone tell me why that happened?
Do you really think it was 3lbs of fat though?
If you are eating more then you have more food weight sitting in your GI tract. If you increase your carb intake you are holding on to a little bit more water. Several possible reasons, but fat gain isn't one0 -
When you lose weight you lose it from a variety of places. Sadly it's not just fat but also muscle and bone that get lost. That's why it's important to do weight training and flexibility workouts to help keep our bodies strong and replace the muscle and reinforce our bones.
Cardiovascular work also improves the heart and works towards keeping our metabolisms up as we age. It keeps the body oxygenated for energy and increases endurance so that we can keep going stronger for longer periods of time.
Exercise is about SOOOOO much more than just weight loss and if you're only doing it to lose weight then there's a good chance that you won't keep it up once you get to your goal. If however, you embrace that exercise is essential to keeping your body strong and healthy -- and part of that is making sure your have the caloric intake to optimize your workouts so eating back calories with a high emphasis on protein -- then you are more likely to end up with the body that will stay younger, stronger and fitter for the rest of your life.0 -
All I know is, these last few days I started eating my exercise calories back, and I gained 3 lbs when I was dropping the weight before.
Can anyone tell me why that happened?
Go look at your sodium levels. Every time that happened to me in the past it was because even though I was eating my exercise calories back you don' t get more sodium.
Maybe that's it, thank you When I was losing weight, I still had several hundred left for sodium, I'll keep more of an eye on sodium and see if that makes the difference0 -
All I know is, these last few days I started eating my exercise calories back, and I gained 3 lbs when I was dropping the weight before.
Can anyone tell me why that happened?
When you first start working out your muscles hold on to water. Basically, when you're doing strength training you're ripping your muscles apart and then they rebuild themselves. That's why you don't work on the same muscle group two days in a row -- they need a day in between to repair. During the repair, especially if you're new to it, the muscle will hold on to water to help the process.
You should find the weight dropping rather rapidly in the next 3 days. Generally once your body has figured out what you're doing it'll stop retaining the water. Congrats on your new healthy lifestyle!0 -
The goal of eating your calories back is to prevent your body from slipping into starvation mode. For instance, if you eat 500 calories less per day than your BMR (at a sedentary level), then over the course of a week you should lose 1 lb. If you create a greater calorie deficit ( eating even less, exercising more) you will lose more over the course of a week.
However if your calorie deficit is great and you are exercising, you may cause your body to go into famine/starvation mode where your weight loss will slow or even stop because you are taking in too few calories and your body does not know when, if ever, it will return to previous amount of calories. That is why it not recommended that women consume lower thn 1200 calories. So if you eat 1500 calories and can lose 2 lbs a week, but then exercise and burn 400 calories, your net for the day is now 1100, supposedly putting you in danger of going into starvation mode.
This does not happen in one day, it takes a couple of weeks for starvation mode to go into effect.
We can lose weight without doing a min of exercise, just by using calorie reduction but that might result in flabby, weak muscles. I think most people who exercise want to have strong, toned muscles and body, regardless of calorie consumption. If you are exercising a lot and not consuming enough, your body may start using muscle as a quick source of energy, instead of fat.0 -
When i first came here i thought like the OP. Why bother exercising if you're just gonna eat it all back anyway?
However, I've learned a lot over the last 6 months. If you're exercising just to burn calories and lose weight you're doing it wrong! Exercise should be enjoyed, and the results will make you fitter, stronger, and overall healthier.
Also, you really shouldn't want to lose weight too fast. Would you rather lose 60lbs in a year and look and feel great, or lose it in 4 months, then in another 8 months you still have lots of loose skin and little muscle?0 -
Every body is different & reacts differently to diet & exercise. Supposedly you cant get the right amt of nutrients your body needs if u eat less than 1200 cal a day. I ate them back & lost 1 lb the first week. Now the first wk of any diet u lose the most u ever will in one wk. Granted because its mostly water weight. But when it comes down to it I dont care what diet or what plan you use, you gotta use up more calories than you take in. I saw one plan one time that said feed the skinny you & let the fat you fend for itself. Like me. I wanna weigh 160 but weighed 265. It takes 1600 calories to maintain 160 lbs. And 2650 to stay 265. Soo if I eat 1600 a day I am losing 1050 cal a day or 7000 a wk which is 2 lbs a wk. I can add in exercise & increase that loss weekly as well as help my heart lungs joints etc. Now... Thats not what I'm doing but great plan0
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I was unable to lose a single lb (ok back and forth the same lb ) for 6 months. I was so upset and depressed and about to quit.
I began looking at those on my friends list who lost weight and kept losing and some even made goal weight in the time my scale stood completely still. I began asking them what they did, I kept hearing the same things over and over. I decided to try everything they said and seeing if it couldnt happen for me too. In just one week, it worked, I lost 6 lbs this week!
Here is what they did and what I now do (stubborn fool I could of been half way to my goal by now if I did this right off).
1. Drink your water! Lots and lots of water!
2. Exercise daily cardio most days and at least 3 times a week do strength training with weights
3. Sleep on a regular schedule if possible
4. Have a higher protein % and lower carb and fat % in your food settings
5. Eat smaller portions 5 to 6 times a day
6. Eat back exercise calories (YES!)
I didnt get it, I woulnt do it, and I thought it didnt make sense, it boggled my mind
I began doing it and I still didnt get it but was so at my last straw I would try anything
In one week I lost 6 lbs that I had not been able to lose a single lb in 6 months of all my trying ...why....
starvation mode as simple as that.
I had been eating my 1200 assigned mfp calories, I worked out 250 to 500 calories a day depending on what I did.
I was only having a net calories intake of 700 to 950 a day, thats not enough and your body will fight you on it.
Mine did. I felt I was the only person in the world a complete anomoly that I could not lose weight.
I didnt have to think this hard in my 20s, I didnt have to work this hard in my 30s.
It works if you put it all together. I wish I had not been so mentally stuck and stubborn on this point months ago.
So to each their own but I am going to keep eating mine back and I will keep losing weight cus my body will feel
its gonna all be okay.0 -
thanks i think i got it now0
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You eat properly so your metabolism can function. Too little food = slow metabolism = fat person who works out and stays fat.
If you would like a fantastic explanation and example of this, click here:
700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing">http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing
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Exercise has many too benefits to list here.
You should eat your calories back if you are using MFP's standard values and you want a safe, gentle, slow weight loss (sounds like a laxative doesn't it?)
I believe that MFP recommends 1200 net calories per day because most doctors recommend that level for most people (of course, some people with gain weight at 1200 calories).
Why do docs recommend 1200 calories. Well, I'm not a doctor but I believe that the 1200 calorie mark is valuable because it has a great chance of the dieter not feeling hungry (that's the reason why they recommend so much water, BTW). And if folks don't feel hungry, it reduces the chances that they're quit the diet.
And that's the goal — to help people lose weight.
There is no particular need to eat that many calories and, as we know, many people lose weight safely at well under 1200 calories per day.
Like you, I was very obese. In December 2010, I decided that I'd been fat for long enough so I decided to lose weight. I modeled my diet after a diet that's been used by a few hundred thousand people here in California - more protein than MFP recommends and 800 to 1000 net cals per day.
Yes, that's way below the 1200 calories per day metric that MFP uses. In one thread that I posted to, folks here on MFP told me that what I was doing was "dangerous" and one poster suggested that I be banned from the site.
Things worked out pretty well. I lost 95 pounds in 7 months, stopped taking pills for blood pressure, got hungry less than once per month, have great blood work, and ran a half marathon in August (I'm doing the California International Marathon in December).
My stats are here:
http://cbeinfo.net/Weight.htm
Other than that, though, the diet was a complete failure. ;-)
"Why are we supposed to eat back our exercise calories?" Some folks get a better result that way but unless you simply need to eat that much, I have no reason to recommend it.0 -
This has actually helped me a lot. I notice that I'm working out like crazy, but not losing (part of that might be WHAT I'm eating, not how much). I do eat my workout calories. I think I'll try to avoid those and see what happens. Not put down my workouts until I go to bed at night.0
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Not sure if this has been linked before:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/173853-an-objective-look-at-eating-exercise-calories
The above was written by Steve Troutman. I'm not going to suggest that people should arbitrarily do something because "someone said so", but having said that, Steve is very well educated and anytime he says anything about nutrition, I pay close attention and I end up learning quite a bit of useful info.
I would recommend that people check out the link, and while you're at it, check the links in Steve's signature as he has a lot of great information to offer.0 -
My take on exercise cals:
I eat my exercise calories and I still lose. I eat anywhere between 1800 to 2000 cal total and I net an average of 1490 calories a week. Here is what helped me understand "eating my exercise cals":
My activity level (excluding exercise; this is important) is sedentary because I work a desk job. MFP calculated my Total Daily Energy Expenditure to be 1760 calories. This means to maintain my current weight I must stay at 1760 calories.
Now I have set myself to lose 0.5lb per week because I'm getting pretty lean and I want to focus on reduce body fat while maintaining muscle. MFP assigned me 1490 calories per day. A deficit of 250 calories per day. Now I work out ALOT. 5-6 days a week for 1 to 2 hours. I can burn an additional 500 to 1000 calories on those days.
I use a Polar FT4 HRM and it has been a godsend because I can know for sure what I burn.
For example, I went to zumba yesterday and burned 554 calories. My total calorie burn is no longer 1760...it is now 2311 (1760+551). It is very important to me to maintain my deficit. I don't want to lose more than 0.5 lb per week. So my calorie goal for a 0.5 lb loss per week is now 2061 (2311-250). So in essence, I must eat back my "exercise calories". I really don't like how it sounds because it seems like you are eating away all your hard work but if you don't fuel your body properly you run the risk of stalling your weight loss. Now I always leave a little room for error. So I always leave about 100 to 150 calories for cushion.
I've been losing about 0.5 to 0.75 lbs per week. The key to making this work is making sure your activity level reflects your normal life not including exercise. Then you can add in exercise.
You can, as an alternative, set your activity level to include exercise. For example, active or very active with exercise. MFP will give more calories to eat. In this case you don't log your exercise and you wouldnt have to eat them back.
My settings are sedentary and I add in my exercise cals. I eat a average of 1800 to 1900 cals per day and burn an average of 400 calories per day through exercise (2800 cal per week). I net between 1400 to 1500.
BUT If I change my activity level settings to very active to include my exercise....MFP will give me 2152 as my TDEE and a calorie goal of 1902 to lose 1/2 per week. IN this case I wont "eat back my exercise cals". The math turns out to be the same.
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Here's my success story.
I reached my goal in September.
I lost it nice and slow..around .5/week because I did not have a lot to lose (and I did not want stretch marks which I got in the past when I lost 20 lbs).
My goal was 1260/day.
I typically burned 300-500 calories.
If I DID not eat back my exercise cals I would have been NET 760 day after day after day.
Can a 5'6" woman live for 9 months off of 760? Answer: NO0 -
MFP already creates a deficit for you in your daily calorie allowance.
If you exercise and don't eat back those calories then you create a deficit that is too big
Read:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/23912-links-in-mfp-you-want-to-read-again-and-again
AWESOME JOB WITH YOUR WEIGHT LOSS! I COULD USE YOU FOR MOTOVATION!! Please add me! lol0 -
* bump* must read later0
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Exercise isn't all about just losing weight.0
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