Diet Sodas
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If you google diet sodas, or aspartame...NOTHING comes up that say anything good about it...so I dont understand why anyone would think it could possibly be good for you.0
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If you google diet sodas, or aspartame...NOTHING comes up that say anything good about it...so I dont understand why anyone would think it could possibly be good for you.
No one is saying that it is good for you. We are saying it is not nearly as bad as everyone is saying.
And just a heads up: Google is not always the best source for stuff like this. If I want a credible source I don't just google it xD0 -
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Okay let's try again. A PEER REVIEWED CLINICAL STUDY. This is an ARTICLE. Try again.
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O god!!!
No, You will not die, get fat, become lazy, eat more, or give birth to aliens from drinking it. This is a lose/lose questions around here. If you crave it, it is WAY better than the regular. Or treat yourself to one regular soda a week.
I'm more concerned about the phosphorus acid being a calicum depleter. I'm an early 40s male. While I'm not that too concerned about it, bone density is one (of many) reasons I weight lift. I don't really need something that is contrary to that.
Yeah, I still drink a cup(or two) of coffee but I don't to add to the lack of calicum absorbtion if I can help it.
This is a very well-documented concern. Females with family history of Osteoporosis should be careful! I do have one Coke Zero every morning, though!0 -
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If you google diet sodas, or aspartame...NOTHING comes up that say anything good about it...so I dont understand why anyone would think it could possibly be good for you.
You can apply that argument to almost anything that's remotely linked to health concerns, whilst it's contreversial to perhaps do so but if you look up Drug X you'll get pages upon pages telling you why they're so deadly and that you'll die if you even think about taking them, then you look at the research and find whilst the fundamentals are true the majority of what is said is a load of over hyped sensationalism0 -
Noted. I drink diet soda for the TASTE. I do make sure to supplement calcium and also do alot of impact exercises (kickboxing) to ensure maximum bone density.Good to know. I'm not trying to be a nazi about it. Again, I'm just making small changes here. Diet sodas don't offer anything really. And if anything, they are a negative. If there is more in chicken and cheese, so be it. To me, that's another reason not to add to it via diet cokes. I never really drank alot. But I'm trying to sub it with glasses of water. Just think the diet sodas don't offer anything to take the neg hits. The chicken and cheese offer benefits over and above whatever phosphorus acid hit I'd take.
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Just think the diet sodas don't offer anything to take the neg hits.
It offers me caffeine, which in turn makes the world a better place because no one wants to deal with a caffeine deficient, headached me.0 -
Lol, show me a Peer reviewed clinical study backing your claims. Man people believe all sorts of crap nowadays.The artificial sweeteners (aspartame) in diet sodas actually make you CRAVE sugar, and they convert fat into hydrogenated fat, which is 10 times harder to burn... not to mention they are a class"A" carcinogen, meaning they cause cancer. No bueno.
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http://www.aspartame.ca/epidemic-s3.pdf
Drink what you want, but theres absolutely nothing that states that aspartame is good for you, and there are millions of articles that state that it can cause all sorts of problems...if you choose to ignore the evidence in front of you, go ahead.
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http://aspartame.mercola.com/
okay... not a good source.
Peer reviewed scientific study please.0 -
The artificial sweeteners (aspartame) in diet sodas actually make you CRAVE sugar, and they convert fat into hydrogenated fat, which is 10 times harder to burn... not to mention they are a class"A" carcinogen, meaning they cause cancer. No bueno.
That has never been proven:laugh:
First of all, I'd just like to say, congrats on losing 60 pounds, really...that is awesome. But sodas in general are just bad for the human body, and that has been proven. Instead of being so pessimistic about this, perhaps you could use it to your advantage and achieve even better results than you already have
Proven where? I have yet to see a peer-reviewed scientific study proving anything :]
YOU show ME anything saying that aspartame is good for you lol0 -
Noted. I drink diet soda for the TASTE. I do make sure to supplement calcium and also do alot of impact exercises (kickboxing) to ensure maximum bone density.Good to know. I'm not trying to be a nazi about it. Again, I'm just making small changes here. Diet sodas don't offer anything really. And if anything, they are a negative. If there is more in chicken and cheese, so be it. To me, that's another reason not to add to it via diet cokes. I never really drank alot. But I'm trying to sub it with glasses of water. Just think the diet sodas don't offer anything to take the neg hits. The chicken and cheese offer benefits over and above whatever phosphorus acid hit I'd take.
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Good points. I don't actively suplement my calicum right now. Unless any of other stuff I take has it. In fact, I just noted that almond milk has the least. I just subbed this for my 2% to cut some of the calories/suger.
But as stated, one of the many reasons I lift is maintain bone density.0 -
Um, correlation isn't proof. Again, peer reviewed clinical study or the evidence is anecdotal.If you google diet sodas, or aspartame...NOTHING comes up that say anything good about it...so I dont understand why anyone would think it could possibly be good for you.0 -
YOU show ME anything saying that aspartame is good for you lol
IMHO. Proving that it's really bad for you is different than proving it's good for you. I see it as neutral or slightly negative0 -
Sorry, but burden of proof is on you right now. If you're going to debate then play by the rules.YOU show ME anything saying that aspartame is good for you lol
I'll help you out though.
Diet soda with Aspartame- 0 calories
Regular orange juice (12oz) - 153 calories
That means I can pretty much drink diet soda with NO worries on surplus calories compared to orange juice (which is healthier). And weight loss boils down to calories in and out.
So aspartame is better when it comes to CALORIES.
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Sorry, but burden of proof is on you right now. If you're going to debate then play by the rules.YOU show ME anything saying that aspartame is good for you lol
I'll help you out though.
Diet soda with Aspartame- 0 calories
Regular orange juice (12oz) - 153 calories
That means I can pretty much drink diet soda with NO worries on surplus calories compared to orange juice (which is healthier). And weight loss boils down to calories in and out.
So aspartame is better when it comes to CALORIES.
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Drink what you want, I know its not good for me so I choose to stay away from it. I'm not here to argue.0 -
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Actually that's not true. There have been studies recently in the new linking diet soda consumption to a greatly increased risk of stroke, up to 50%. Here's a link to information on WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/stroke/news/20110209/is-diet-soda-linked-to-heart-stroke-risk0
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Actually that's not true. There have been studies recently in the new linking diet soda consumption to a greatly increased risk of stroke, up to 50%. Here's a link to information on WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/stroke/news/20110209/is-diet-soda-linked-to-heart-stroke-risk
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In a nine-year study of more than 2,500 people, those who drank diet soda daily were 48% more likely to have a heart attack or stroke or die from those events, compared with those who rarely or never drank soda.
It's hard to really quantify this. As many that are diet soda drinkers might already be the type to have a stroke.0 -
Did you read that article? It mentions "the study doesn't prove cause and effect", it was based on a survey people filled out one day, and they admit that all the factors together (diet, smoking, exercising, drinking) may have a cumulative effect.
And it hasn't been peer reviewed.0 -
Of course not. Especially when there's no real way to back your opinion. But you should be ready to back it if questioned.Drink what you want, I know its not good for me so I choose to stay away from it. I'm not here to argue.
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Guess you missed this part:Actually that's not true. There have been studies recently in the new linking diet soda consumption to a greatly increased risk of stroke, up to 50%. Here's a link to information on WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/stroke/news/20110209/is-diet-soda-linked-to-heart-stroke-riskStill, the study doesn't prove cause and effect. And even though the researchers tried to account for risk factors that that could skew the results, they couldn't tease out everything, doctors caution.
"You try to control for everything, but you can't," says Steven Greenberg, MD, PhD, vice chair of the ISC meeting committee and professor of neurology at Harvard Medical School.
Thanks for the info though.0 -
Read the WHOLE thing. Especially the part about "cause and effect".Actually that's not true. There have been studies recently in the new linking diet soda consumption to a greatly increased risk of stroke, up to 50%. Here's a link to information on WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/stroke/news/20110209/is-diet-soda-linked-to-heart-stroke-risk
thank you.
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Not this again...
If you think diet soda will make your hair fall out, your bones brittle, make you gain weight, make you grow an extra head, fine! Don't drink it!
But don't try to put over your own personal opinion as fact and scare others who are more rational. A diet coke a day will not hurt you, assuming you don't have an adverse reaction to aspartame, which most people don't. Either ignore the scaremongerers or join them. Either way the facts remain the same. Aspartame is safe in regular doses. Anything done that says otherwise has been administered in extreme amounts.0 -
Aren't you making some assumptions here monster. I don't know if people are trying to tell us that 1 diet coke will be the death of us but I think most are generally referring to the excessive drinkers here.
At least I was anyway.0 -
The best no calorie drink for you is water.0
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O god!!!
No, You will not die, get fat, become lazy, eat more, or give birth to aliens from drinking it. This is a lose/lose questions around here. If you crave it, it is WAY better than the regular. Or treat yourself to one regular soda a week.
someone has some GREAT common sense :flowerforyou:
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