doing the math is dissapointing

_snw_
_snw_ Posts: 1,298 Member
edited October 5 in Fitness and Exercise
I know there all are all kinds of exceptions to the rule, but just for sake of arguement, let's go with the "it takes 3,500 calories burned to lose 1 lb of fat"

Let's say you go on a 30 minute, brisk walk, everyday. That's ~100 calories burned. It would take THIRTY FIVE days of walking to lose a pound. ONE pound.

Do something hardcore like spinning your *kitten* off for 60 minutes. That's a mere 450 calories. Much better than walking in regards to calories, but it would still take you EIGHT days in a row of spinning class to lose that one pound.

It would take over FIVE hours of high intensity kickboxing to lose just that one pound.


Someone please? Can you tell me some kind of silver lining that I'm not seeing for myself?






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  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    You're not calculating the deficit by eating under your TDEE
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    Calorie deficit = weight loss
    Exercise = toning and general health
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,409 Member
    Well, you're doing more than losing weight. It is a difficult thing to wrap your head around, though. I agree.
  • ennaejay
    ennaejay Posts: 575
    I know there all are all kinds of exceptions to the rule, but just for sake of arguement, let's go with the "it takes 3,500 calories burned to lose 1 lb of fat"

    Let's say you go on a 30 minute, brisk walk, everyday. That's ~100 calories burned. It would take THIRTY FIVE days of walking to lose a pound. ONE pound.

    Do something hardcore like spinning your *kitten* off for 60 minutes. That's a mere 450 calories. Much better than walking in regards to calories, but it would still take you EIGHT days in a row of spinning class to lose that one pound.

    It would take over FIVE hours of high intensity kickboxing to lose just that one pound.


    Someone please? Can you tell me some kind of silver lining that I'm not seeing for myself?




    Lift heavy weights. That's pure gold right there. And read New Rules of Lifting to get started...
  • sunraze
    sunraze Posts: 115
    The workout is only like 20% of it. The real numbers are in the intake. Most people can dramatically cut back here being used to eating 2000-3000 cal/day. Even if you cut back 500 cal/day and burn 500 cal/day, that is 2 lbs per week. Look at the workout as the part that is fun and good for your heart and mind. In my opinion, the food is the real challenge.
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    The body doesn't just burn calories while doing exercise.
  • You burn calories just sitting there (base metabolic rate). Losing weight is burning less calories than you consume, and burning calories = exercise + base metabolic rate. Also, as you exercise and tone your muscles, your base metabolic rate will typically increase, meaning you burn more calories at rest.
  • deathstarclock
    deathstarclock Posts: 512 Member
    Don't give brisk walks a bad rep. Anything is better than nothing. Being more physically active is healthier than not being more physically active. You may reach your goal in a longer amount of time, but you are at least working towards it.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    That's why we say it's 80% diet, 20% exercise. A 500 cal/day deficit will yield 1 lb per week / 52 lbs per year....
  • Jorra
    Jorra Posts: 3,338 Member
    You don't need to exercise 3500 calories away, you just need to eat 3500 calories less than your body is burning through a combination of living and exercise. MFP calculates a calorie goal based on this number. It's already doing the math for you.

    Don't worry about it and just follow the MFP guidelines. I promise it works.
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    This is why exercise alone is usually not sufficient for weight loss. You have to cut back on your calories, too.
    (MFP works in a calorie deficit when calculating your daily goal, so if you eat your goal and eat back exercise calories you'e still getting that calorie reduction). 1 lb a week means eating about 500 less calories a day than you burn.

    The other good news: when you exercise regularly, building muscle and endurance, you also boost your metabolism so you use more calories at many activities (including sitting on your rear)
  • yummy♥
    yummy♥ Posts: 612 Member
    are you really just trying to push your Punk Rocker group?
    it's like all the posts that end with Shakeology references...
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    The other post where you said you only eat 500-800 calories per day really throws a whole different light on this.
  • The silver lining is in the improved health and wellbeing.
  • You have to keep in mind that every body is different. Someone can do the Atkins diet and lose 50 and someone else can only lose 10. Someone can walk every day and shape up and get they body they want after only 6 months and another it takes longer. Men tend to shed the pounds quicker than women even when they are eating the exact same thing. You have to realize what is right for YOUR body and when you find out what works keep working at it.
  • arc918
    arc918 Posts: 2,037 Member
    It take time, effort and lots of hard work to get it done.

    Sometimes after a long run (15 - 20 miles) I stop by the store to get what I had dubbed "the 2 mile cookie." Tasty for sure, but it takes me 2 miles of running to burn off the 250 calories of chocolatey goodness...
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    I know there all are all kinds of exceptions to the rule, but just for sake of arguement, let's go with the "it takes 3,500 calories burned to lose 1 lb of fat"

    Let's say you go on a 30 minute, brisk walk, everyday. That's ~100 calories burned. It would take THIRTY FIVE days of walking to lose a pound. ONE pound.

    Do something hardcore like spinning your *kitten* off for 60 minutes. That's a mere 450 calories. Much better than walking in regards to calories, but it would still take you EIGHT days in a row of spinning class to lose that one pound.

    It would take over FIVE hours of high intensity kickboxing to lose just that one pound.


    Someone please? Can you tell me some kind of silver lining that I'm not seeing for myself?






    (p.s. ---> If you have any bit of punk rock in you, join our group "Punk Rockers Scare You")
    You burn more fat calories at rest than 1-2 hours of any exercise activity. You're not counting your calories from your BMR.




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  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    Math isn't very punk rock.
  • CharlieBarleyMom
    CharlieBarleyMom Posts: 727 Member
    Getting in some good cardio keeps your body in a heightened state of motivation... you move more... you move more and feel beter... you feel better and you move even more... it's almost like physics or something.
  • doughnutwretch
    doughnutwretch Posts: 498 Member
    And this is why nutrition is so important. Simply reduce how much you're eating, focus on getting around 1g of protein per pound of LBM (lean body mass), .45-.6g of fat and make up the rest with carbs. You can then factor in workouts, strength training being the best for your body, and you will lose. The numbers aren't so daunting when you realize that abs are made in the kitchen.
  • yesiamaduck
    yesiamaduck Posts: 531 Member
    Apparently I burn 2,300 calories a day if I do NOTHING

    So basically find out what your metabolic rate is (the is a calculator in this very site, it'll estimate everyone has different metabolisms) and then subtract the amount you're eating! As said I burn 2,300 calories a day and if I eat 1,500 calories then that's 800 calories I've burnt, 4 days in that's a lb & if I do some exercise it'll add to that

    But movement is a good thing, exercise increases your metabolic rate, so whilst you loose x amount during the exercise you'll burn more by doing nothing for a little while.

    Also what's the point of being fat then skinny without any exercise? Loose weight fast enough and you haven't spent any time getting toned and fit you'll still find it quite hard to do certain things and you'll have excess skin! Obviously it's still healthier then being overweight but to get the full benefits of loosing weight you should really exercise!
  • Dunninio
    Dunninio Posts: 2 Member
    In my view, for what it's worth, the whole excercise/nutrition/weight loss thing is like a domino effect.

    It has been proven that you will actually burn around 20% more calories for the 24 hours after a workout, so if you burn 500 kcal at spin, you'll expect to burn another 100 cals on top in the following 24 hours. Couple this with the fact that 1lb increase in muscle burns around 50 kcal extra a day adn you start to make progress. Coupled with a calorie defecit and you're on your way.

    Let me give you an example.

    On week one, you can manage a days spin class and decide you can live with a calorie defecit of 300 cals a day. for the sake of argument, you should lose about 1lb.

    By week 4, you feel you can manage 3 spin classes a week, you have more energy so you park further away when you go shopping, maybe tackle the stairs at work or have a brisk weekend walk. you decide you can now live with a 500 kcal defect as you've got your portions under control adn you've gained 1lb of lean muscle at the gym, increasing your metabolic rate. As a result, you're now burning 1800 cals at spin, with say another 350 from the lean muscle mass and you've got a 3500 defecit. All of a sunddent that's 2lbn a week.

    by three months, you're burning 3000 cals at excercise through both increased motivation and intensity, your body's burning 1000 cals more than it did when you started on a base week and you're losing 3lb a week and feel amazing.

    Given that 30 mins moderate to high intensity excercise a day is recommended, eventually you'll be a fat burning machine who can excercise at a higher level for longer and the numbers will continue to grow.

    Realisitcally, if you're losing 3lb a week, I'd think anythnig much more is unhealthy and unlikely to be sustainable - it's a life change so no points for the first past the post. Having crash dieted, I can say with certainty ther quicker you lose thje sooner it goes back on and you're back to old habits.

    Like I said, just my opinion for what it's worth, but it helps me to look at it like this and has helped me on my recent weight loss journey. I think if I looked at the 3500 kcal in 1lb of fat I'd be back to unhelathy eating and sofa-surfing.....
  • echoegami
    echoegami Posts: 10 Member
    I get about one or two good workouts in a week (anywhere from 30 to 90 minutes of mostly cardio) on a good week. On a bad week I get none. However, in three months I've lost 21 pounds just by reducing my calorie intake. I avoid all the bad stuff (white rice, white flour, sugar, and salt) but I still consume them on occasion. And lately I've added doing some mild strength/toning exercises first thing in the morning, mostly crunches and pushups. I set my calorie goal to 1200/day and do my best to keep to it every day but I have one or two days every week when I don't. My point is, you don't have to spend your entire day exercising to see weight loss. As others have stated before me, it depends on what you BMR is, if you take in fewer calories than what your BMR burns then you will lose weight.
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    you could cut off your leg and lose 40 lbs in a day!

    or....

    I hear Meth is VERY effective at creating rapid weight loss......because the speed at which this all occurs is the MOST important thing! Right?

    What about your health?
  • That's why we say it's 80% diet, 20% exercise. A 500 cal/day deficit will yield 1 lb per week / 52 lbs per year....
    POW! Love it! Can you imagine the 75% on this site that will not reach that 52 lbs per year goal due to our quick fix midsets, lol.
  • I would also do some research into how many calories you're actually burning. People who weigh more burn calories faster. My husband and I are both runners. I burn about 125 calories per mile (which is approximately calculated using my height, weight, age, and fitness level) and my husband (who is 6'2" and an elite triathlete) burns almost 400 per mile. The less you weigh the more the body tries to hang on to the energy it has. That's why you see the people on The Biggest Loser losing 20 pounds in a week--their bodies are letting go of all that extra energy more readily.

    Google some better calorie calculators that will factor in your height and weight (Nike+ has a good one for running). I would say that burning 100 calories in a 30 minute walk is a little low.
  • bregalad5
    bregalad5 Posts: 3,965 Member
    Yes, it's intimidating if you look at it that way, but you also have to remember that this is a long-term project not a quick craft project for your kid's craft fair tomorrow.

    And, as many have said above, you also have to take into account your diet!
  • yesiamaduck
    yesiamaduck Posts: 531 Member
    I would also do some research into how many calories you're actually burning. People who weigh more burn calories faster. My husband and I are both runners. I burn about 125 calories per mile (which is approximately calculated using my height, weight, age, and fitness level) and my husband (who is 6'2" and an elite triathlete) burns almost 400 per mile. The less you weigh the more the body tries to hang on to the energy it has. That's why you see the people on The Biggest Loser losing 20 pounds in a week--their bodies are letting go of all that extra energy more readily.

    Google some better calorie calculators that will factor in your height and weight (Nike+ has a good one for running). I would say that burning 100 calories in a 30 minute walk is a little low.

    I thought it was because you had haul more weight around with you!
  • jecka31
    jecka31 Posts: 284
    Based on the old stand by:

    3500 calories a week = 1 lb

    (decrease diet by 250) + (increase burn by 250 per day) = 3500/week
  • billythewiz
    billythewiz Posts: 6 Member
    Jecka's got it !

    When I first stated with MFP it suggest 1300 calories a day. There's no way I could sustain that for a week, never mind 6 months !
    So I gave myself a daily target of 2000 calories and started losing weight at a modest rate.

    Then I decided to train for a 5k race and so added 400-600 calories of exercise 2-3 times a week and lost weight faster !

    I also use those figures (1lb fat = 3500 calories = 5 hours of running !) to motivate me not to eat crap. A mars bar (250 calories ?) takes about 30 minutes on a treadmill to burn off ! I'd rather not have it than have to run an extra 30 minutes !
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