Interesting reason to be dropped as a MFP friend

hbrittingham
hbrittingham Posts: 2,518 Member
So, I tend to keep my friends' list short, but I will generally accept any friend request. If they turn out to be a good fit, they stay on my friends list, if not, eventually I remove them. I have a great group of friends right now.

I had someone friend request me two days ago and I accepted. The first day she was only at 762 net calories at the end of the day and I said something along the lines that she might want to eat more because cutting calories too drastically can make it harder to continue over the long term. Yesterday her net was just over 1000 calories and I said something about making sure she ate enough.

This morning she had removed me from her friends list. No big deal, but if you don't want honesty, please don't friend request me. I am not a rude person and when I do have something critical to say, I generally add a positive comment to soften it. If you only want friends who tell you how wonderful you are for starving yourself, don't friend request me. I want to build real online relationships with my MFP friends.
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  • amberwebb79
    amberwebb79 Posts: 113 Member
    I see people who net significantly under 1000 calories every day, and its too bad people think they have to do that. Some days I feel like I'm the only one not starving myself to lose weight. I have an occasional low day, but I try not to.
  • vzucco
    vzucco Posts: 229
    Sounds like that person needs to keep their diary private if they don't want comments
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I don't comment on anyone's diary unless specifically asked. Clearly, she wasn't looking for feedback.
  • sunnybrunette126
    sunnybrunette126 Posts: 200 Member
    Well you can add me if you want because I generally keep my list short also. I like to motivate just the ones I can handle. But I like motivation and encouragement along the way myself. So I drop those who don't return it.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    And, FYI, if I net under 1,000 calories a day (I often do) it's not because I'm trying to starve myself. It's because I ate and exercised and wasn't hungry anymore. I'm not going to force myself to eat just because someone tells me I should.
  • That IS too bad, because a friend SHOULD tell you how to make things better for yourself. I agree that their diary should be kept private, because she is going to continue to receive this kind of feedback, especially from the friends that really do care!
  • jenniferg83
    jenniferg83 Posts: 278 Member
    i'm the type to do the same thing. thats what we are all here for. support and suggestions. if they dont want friends to guide them along the way, this site isnt' good for them lol :) sending a friend request your way
  • PeaceLuvVeggies
    PeaceLuvVeggies Posts: 375 Member
    I don't always eat 1,200 cals, but it's because 100% of the time, I'm not hungry enough to eat any more. And right now I'm watching my sodium intake. I hadn't realized that my sodium intake was way above my goal, and from what I heard eating a lot of it will stall your weight loss.
  • mbmorse1011
    mbmorse1011 Posts: 492 Member
    I agree, if you don't want people to comment on what you eat keep it private. I love the comments/suggestions people give on my diary. Helps me plan better and get good ideas for more healthy foods.
  • and maybe that goal is something her dr set for her. she could be having trouble staying that low and your comments were not helping her motivation

    ((at least that was the reason my last friend dropped me lol))
  • CoachMelissaDi
    CoachMelissaDi Posts: 215 Member
    I don't comment on anyone's diary unless specifically asked. Clearly, she wasn't looking for feedback.

    I agree. I never comment unless they tell me they want me to keep them in line :)
  • CaityB14
    CaityB14 Posts: 74 Member
    I was friends with a girl trying to gain weight and her regular calories were constantly under 1200 with exercise. It was hard seeing everyday that ***** completed their food diary and were under their calorie goal
  • fionarama
    fionarama Posts: 788 Member
    I don't comment on anyone's diary unless specifically asked. Clearly, she wasn't looking for feedback.

    I agree, we are not friends to criticise. I eat way under my calorie goal, sometimes my net is less than 100 if I take into account all the exercise I do. I just don't lose body fat any other way. she may be the same. Eating your exercise calories etc just doesn't work for some of us.
  • I have been cursed out by a friend of a friend on MFP for making sure they weren't starving! So I have definitely learned my lesson, I only comment on good progress. If they are under, way under, I don't generally take the time to comment. I don't want anyone to use "starvation" in a positive way, so I keep my positive/negative comments about it to myself. Lol However, if my friends ask for help or as another put it, to keep them in line, I will be completely honest!
  • InfiniteEcho
    InfiniteEcho Posts: 40 Member
    Things may not always be as they seem. She may not be starving herself and there could be other issues involved with her or it may be possible her diary is incomplete. I offer this option because I am there and not starving myself. I've been working like a demon (12+ hr days and weekends) and I am totally STRESSED. When I am stressed I am sick to my stomach and I am not a stressful eater. I am the opposite...I get sick and cannot eat. With that said, just looking at my diary is not indicative of the entire picture. There could be other factors involved, ie., medical issues or other. Don't take the 'de-friending' as a negative based on your comments it could be something entirely different.
  • hbrittingham
    hbrittingham Posts: 2,518 Member
    I keep my diary private because I am only accountable to myself. If she didn't want comments on her diary, she really should have kept it private. I don't criticize people or what they eat, but I will comment when someone needs to eat more. She was new to MFP and I really wanted to see her succeed, just as I do for all the people on my friends list. I see too many people fail because they starve themselves and can't keep up with it long term. But I am looking at this as a lifestyle, not a diet.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I agree, if you don't want people to comment on what you eat keep it private. I love the comments/suggestions people give on my diary. Helps me plan better and get good ideas for more healthy foods.
    I keep my diary open so I can easily point someone to it if they ask for suggestions on something I can help with. It's easier than typing things out, copying and pasting or constantly opening and closing it.

    I don't keep it open expecting that anyone is going to criticize it without my specific request to do so. And, so far, as long as I've been on this site (and I have a pretty extensive friends list) no one has done so. Thank goodness.
  • lynn1982
    lynn1982 Posts: 1,439 Member
    Did you look at what this person ate the day before? I know I will sometimes eat over my calories for a day or two and then under for a couple of days. Perhaps that was all this person was doing and it was probably just easier for her to delete you rather than spending the energy on justifying it to you, as someone whom she does not even know. Just my two cents...
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I don't always eat 1,200 cals, but it's because 100% of the time, I'm not hungry enough to eat any more. And right now I'm watching my sodium intake. I hadn't realized that my sodium intake was way above my goal, and from what I heard eating a lot of it will stall your weight loss.

    Excessive sodium can cause water retention, but will not prevent you from losing fat or pounds.
  • philOHIO
    philOHIO Posts: 520 Member
    there ARE anorexic and bullemics on this site... I was friends with one of them and dropped them for the same reason.
  • emilydmac
    emilydmac Posts: 382 Member
    FYI-
    I have friends who I know see my diary every day and wonder why I am not eating enough. It isn't that I am trying to do this the quick and dirty way, it isn't because I have an eating disorder. It is because I have a parasite that makes me feel sick. I'm being treated but sometimes there is more to it than just what the food diary says. Most of the people here are trying their best and we just have to bear with each other. People get extremely sensitive around food and dieting and we all need to be extra kind sometimes.
  • PeaceLuvVeggies
    PeaceLuvVeggies Posts: 375 Member
    I don't always eat 1,200 cals, but it's because 100% of the time, I'm not hungry enough to eat any more. And right now I'm watching my sodium intake. I hadn't realized that my sodium intake was way above my goal, and from what I heard eating a lot of it will stall your weight loss.

    Excessive sodium can cause water retention, but will not prevent you from losing fat or pounds.

    IDK about you but it's working for me. I've lost 3 lbs since last week so far just by reducing my sodium.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I don't always eat 1,200 cals, but it's because 100% of the time, I'm not hungry enough to eat any more. And right now I'm watching my sodium intake. I hadn't realized that my sodium intake was way above my goal, and from what I heard eating a lot of it will stall your weight loss.

    Excessive sodium can cause water retention, but will not prevent you from losing fat or pounds.

    IDK about you but it's working for me. I've lost 3 lbs since last week so far just by reducing my sodium.

    Sodium has no calories. It causes WATER RETENTION.

    You may have lost water weight from reducing sodium, but you did not lose fat.
  • hbrittingham
    hbrittingham Posts: 2,518 Member
    Did you look at what this person ate the day before? I know I will sometimes eat over my calories for a day or two and then under for a couple of days. Perhaps that was all this person was doing and it was probably just easier for her to delete you rather than spending the energy on justifying it to you, as someone whom she does not even know. Just my two cents...

    She had just joined so there was no diary other than the two days I mentioned.

    As I said, I wasn't criticizing, just commenting. I know another one of my friends has someone who always has something negative to say about her food diary, never any positives. If I were doing that, that would be a different story. If I make a comment that can be taken as criticism, I always add a positive comment to offset it. I'm not a rude person.
  • lorneq
    lorneq Posts: 11
    I think you should keep speaking your truth. If I see a friend, or "friend", that is consistantly not eating enough I would say something. I want them to meet their goals not get sick or burned out and give up. They can always tell you they didn't post the afternoon snack eclair.
  • stuffinmuffin
    stuffinmuffin Posts: 985 Member
    I feel a bit worried about posting this because I know what way the boards can go sometimes, but as this is something that recently happened to me - albeit on the other side of the coin (not quite the same as I do agree with what you did) but thought it might offer a perspective....

    I recently dropped a friend for this reason....not that they were a bad person or I didn't like their way of doing things but I've been here for well over six months and have been in maintenance for about 5+ weeks. My lifestyle doesn't fit having one calorie allowance for every day of the week and I tend to zig-zag eating lower midweek and then eating back collectively (and some) calories at the weekends.

    I keep my friend list at around 50 and I have some wonderful people that I love chatting with every day and they know my story, know what I'm doing and know that days I net below 1200 (though definitely eating up to 1600) will be followed by days I net over 2000! It works for me and it fits in with my life and social life. The new friend informed me quite publicly that I was doing terrible things to my body and I was very wrong...so yeah, I defriended her. Sometimes the "you will die if you don't net 1200 in a day" can sometimes go a bit OTT when juxtaposed with eating way above my cals on other days and I felt that I was going to constantly be told off!

    I completely agree that using MFP to lose weight unhealthily and with huge calorie deficits is very wrong and people should certainly offer advice like you did to her. I just thought it might be interesting to add an angle from someone that might not net 1200 every day because some of us aren't starving ourselves. xx
  • PeaceLuvVeggies
    PeaceLuvVeggies Posts: 375 Member
    I don't always eat 1,200 cals, but it's because 100% of the time, I'm not hungry enough to eat any more. And right now I'm watching my sodium intake. I hadn't realized that my sodium intake was way above my goal, and from what I heard eating a lot of it will stall your weight loss.

    Excessive sodium can cause water retention, but will not prevent you from losing fat or pounds.

    IDK about you but it's working for me. I've lost 3 lbs since last week so far just by reducing my sodium.

    Sodium has no calories. It causes WATER RETENTION.

    You may have lost water weight from reducing sodium, but you did not lose fat.

    It does NOT matter to me. I lost some type of weight and that's all that I care about.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member

    Excessive sodium can cause water retention, but will not prevent you from losing fat or pounds.

    IDK about you but it's working for me. I've lost 3 lbs since last week so far just by reducing my sodium.
    Sodium has no calories. It causes WATER RETENTION.

    You may have lost water weight from reducing sodium, but you did not lose fat.

    It does NOT matter to me. I lost some type of weight and that's all that I care about.
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    I understand. And there's nothing wrong with lower sodium. What I'm saying is that you will not continue to see drops in your weight simply from cutting back on sodium. Once that excess water weight goes, your losses will level off. You have to continue the right calorie deficit to continue seeing losses.

    If you continue eating excess sodium, you will still see losses because while you retain water, you'll lose fat. So in that sense, sodium does not affect weight loss. Obviously, if you eat high sodium the day before a weigh-in, you'll see a higher number on the scale, but once you shed the water weight again, you'll go back to normal.
  • killerqueen17
    killerqueen17 Posts: 536 Member
    I probably would have unfriended too... if I don't ask for critique, I don't really want to hear it, especially since I sometimes don't log the end of the day. My diary is open to friends if anyone is curious, but unless I asked for feedback, it would just annoy me to be criticized like that... but that's just me. I'm fairly selective of my friends anyway. (and I don't friend guys either. lol)
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    Sorry but adding people does not give them the automatic 'ticket' to criticize anyone's diary.

    If you cant stop and ask them if they are the type of person who minds their food logs being reviewed, then you are considered intruding and butting your nose in where it definitely doesnt belong. They dont have to keep it private to theirself if they dont want it reviewed.

    Too many people are so damn quick to make assumptions that you are purposely starving yourself and NEVER EVER ask that person whether or not they were sick (Im battling a bad flu and vertigo right now), whether or not they work a job that was so busy they couldnt get a meal break in (I work as a Chef for a living - happens alot), perhaps the internet was down due to the weather conditions (lost power for a couple of days so couldnt track anything)...

    I dumped a person REAL fast when they noticed I didnt post anything for a dinner or water. It was during our nor-easter on Halloween and we had no electricity.... when it came back on the next day, I was able to go back and enter it and close it out. The 'friend' came back and said "ohhh you finally decided to eat something huh?" I chewed her *kitten* out.... and told her off. She is now blocked and I dont have to deal with her anymore.

    I make it VERY clear on my profile about the type of person I am, what I am here for and the things about people I refuse to put up with here - and people on my friend's list know that under no circumstance do they have the right to cast judgement on anything they see in my food logs NOR post anything telling me what to do about my intake. All friend-requests that come in, I tell them to kindly read my profile and determine whether or not they can respect the things that matter most to me here on MFP.

    I wont answer to anyone here about why I only ate 1000 calories - its none of their damn business. That business is between my PCP, my Endocrinologist and myself and so far, they have no problems with everything because they know the whole truth and the whole picture.
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