I'm losing muscle!!!!
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With extensive endurance training you will lose a lot of muscle mass. It comes with the territory...0
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Too much cardio and not enough lifting. And HEAVY lifting....high reps and light weight won't do much if you're trying to gain lean muscle mass. Plus, up your protein intake as others have mentioned.0
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The other thing is to look at your own body. Don't rely on a standardized calculation to tell you what you can see on your body.
BMI calculations are not always right. There are a lot of variables.0 -
With extensive endurance training you will lose a lot of muscle mass. It comes with the territory...
Actually I was going to mention this very fact...your age suggests you might be in some stage of the menopause..so hormones may play a part..certainly worth getting this checked out.0 -
I would consider not eating at a deficit and start building some muscle. Then cut down. I'm not an expert on that process tho. I did it (by accident lol) while I was following New Rules of Lifting for Women (I should get a check for how much I push this book lol).0
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That's why I get my BF% checked with the Bod Pod. It is on par with hydrostatic weighing.
Neither of those methods are terribly accurate. DEXA scan is the most accurate, and even that has problems.0 -
I understand where you're coming from....I trained for a marathon last year, ate like a horse to get back my exercise calories (did not have weight loss as a goal), and lost muscle mass despite my best efforts. My already scrawny arms turned into sticks! It seems inevitable with that much running, I'm sorry to say. The other things was that, running 40-50 miles/week, my strength-training efforts were pretty lame....simply didn't have much extra time or energy, and I was very focused on getting my miles in.
You can work on it after your race! Good luck.0 -
I started tracking my body fat% back in the beginning of June. Since then I've lost 13 more pounds but only 7.32 lbs is fat loss; the other 5.68 lbs is lean body mass (muscle). I'm only losing about 2 lbs a month so I'm not starving myself. I am doing some weight training about twice a week. Although, I admit I'm not always consistent. But why am I losing so much lean mass? I'm getting very frustrated being stuck at 26+ % body fat. BTW, I am verifying my BF% by having the Bod Pod done every 3 months. What in the heck is going on?
2 things. Bump your weights up and be CONSISTENT.
Understand the more lean muscle you lose the lower you metabolic rate will go and the slower your weight loss journey will go too.
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That's why I get my BF% checked with the Bod Pod. It is on par with hydrostatic weighing.
Neither of those methods are terribly accurate. DEXA scan is the most accurate, and even that has problems.0 -
I am lifting pretty heavy...can only do about 10-12 reps of any given weight. Once I can do more than that I bump up the weight. I do full body - but sometimes I leave out the legs if I have a long run the next day.
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I started tracking my body fat% back in the beginning of June. Since then I've lost 13 more pounds but only 7.32 lbs is fat loss; the other 5.68 lbs is lean body mass (muscle). I'm only losing about 2 lbs a month so I'm not starving myself. I am doing some weight training about twice a week. Although, I admit I'm not always consistent. But why am I losing so much lean mass? I'm getting very frustrated being stuck at 26+ % body fat. BTW, I am verifying my BF% by having the Bod Pod done every 3 months. What in the heck is going on?
2 things. Bump your weights up and be CONSISTENT.
Understand the more lean muscle you lose the lower you metabolic rate will go and the slower your weight loss journey will go too.0 -
I currently weigh 130 lbs. My body fat % is 26.6. I do cardio 6 days a week. I run about 35-40 miles a week currently (training for a marathon). I also usually bike 2-3 times a week. But I eat back ALL of my exercise calories. I am NOT starving myself. This is so frustrating. I love to compete in athletics but dragging around this extra body fat is getting old.
Unfortunately you have to choose what you want to do and if it's a marathon, then you're going to lose lean muscle because that's usually how it works.
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I understand where you're coming from....I trained for a marathon last year, ate like a horse to get back my exercise calories (did not have weight loss as a goal), and lost muscle mass despite my best efforts. My already scrawny arms turned into sticks! It seems inevitable with that much running, I'm sorry to say. The other things was that, running 40-50 miles/week, my strength-training efforts were pretty lame....simply didn't have much extra time or energy, and I was very focused on getting my miles in.
You can work on it after your race! Good luck.0 -
Okay this would explain it now. Long endurance cardio catabolizes muscle. It's part of the territory. Regardless of how well you eat and even if you train hard with weights, it's almost inevitable that you will lose lean muscle.0
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I would look at your protein intake first (in grams), and I would probably also look at your training methods. I would also look at your deficit compared to your current weight. (<---- scratch that last one, reading comprehension failed me there).
If you can share the above info, you may get more specific answers.
You need to do more than just cardio.
Agreed. Weigh lifting is neccesary to maintain muscle especially while in calorie defecit. Cardio not only uses fat as fuel it uses muscle as well.0 -
If you don't eat enough your body thinks it is starving, and preserves fat, while getting rid of muscle (because fat takes so much less energy to maintain). That's the main reason why slow weightloss is so much more effective in the long run than losing super quickly. Obviously you are doing great, but you may need a few more calories.
For every additional pound of lean muscle mass on your body, you will burn about 35 to 50 additional calories per day (from a study done at Tufts University). That adds to a LOT of calories over the course of a month.
I hope this helps! Make sure you are getting enough protein and calories. If you have any questions message me/add me as a friend!0 -
I understand where you're coming from....I trained for a marathon last year, ate like a horse to get back my exercise calories (did not have weight loss as a goal), and lost muscle mass despite my best efforts. My already scrawny arms turned into sticks! It seems inevitable with that much running, I'm sorry to say. The other things was that, running 40-50 miles/week, my strength-training efforts were pretty lame....simply didn't have much extra time or energy, and I was very focused on getting my miles in.
You can work on it after your race! Good luck.
I would suggest doing some progressive weight training, meaning you slowly add more and more weight (usually on a weekly or biweekly basis to begin with and monthly or every 6 weeks after that) to continue challenging your muscles and stimulate them. I do it 3x per week (cardio on different 3 days). I lift heavy enough so that I can only do about 8 reps without feeling like I'm going to die, and I do supersets of opposing muscle groups in alternating fashion. My BF% has gone from 47% to 27% in the time I've been doing this while my lean mass has not changed much.0 -
Okay this would explain it now. Long endurance cardio catabolizes muscle. It's part of the territory. Regardless of how well you eat and even if you train hard with weights, it's almost inevitable that you will lose lean muscle.
"Normal" body fat for a woman is between 25-31%. Because you're in the normal (or acceptable) range, it's slower going, as you don't have a lot of excess fat to lose, so your body hangs on to it more. Top female athletes have around 15-20% body fat. You aren't losing a lot of body fat, because you don't have much to lose.
Also, excessive cardio (which marathon training would be considered "excessive" for weight loss purposes) leads to slower fat loss, as your body doesn't burn that much fat during cardio before it switches over to catabolizing muscle. That's why most generic cardio programs are suggested to be about 30-60 minutes, any more than that generally leads to more muscle loss, and less fat burning, and has no real weight loss effect. Not trying to talk you out of running, just so you know, I love to run, just trying to explain how things work. :drinker:0 -
ninerbuff, I read your profile...a lot of it could have been written by me.
Ok, so the excessive cardio is the culprit. So after Dec. 4th I'm going to hit the weights and cut back on my cardio. I want to keep my aerobic fitness though. So how much cardio do you folks think I can do without losing muscle? Should I take the winter months and have a zero deficit and work on gaining muscle or should I keep the 250 deficit and just cut back on the cardio and increase the weight training?
BTW, I really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks so much.0
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