"Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels."

softsculptor
softsculptor Posts: 102
edited October 5 in Motivation and Support
That is a Kate Moss quote I wish I could believe!

Today was rough. I have been creating a surplus of calories by eating tiny meals so that I can have dinner with my boyfriend and our mutual friend, but even with this surplus, I am still not able to have dessert and one of the side dishes. I am also cutting the appetizer in half! It kills!
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  • slimkitty
    slimkitty Posts: 418
    I guess Kate Moss never had a banana doused in Nutella wrapped in a tortilla :laugh:
  • casirdms
    casirdms Posts: 145 Member
    I've heard the quote several times but I dunno.. chocolate covered cherries sure do taste good!! haha
  • Sweet_Potato
    Sweet_Potato Posts: 1,119 Member
    I don't believe that quote. In fact, I've noticed people who are overweight tend to not appreciate food as much. Think about the French culture-- they are obsessed with food but are known for being thin.
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    That's a pro-anorexia quote.
  • jess_blonde
    jess_blonde Posts: 229 Member
    This quote seems very pro-anorexia to me (and if I'm not mistaken, has been adopted by quite a few pro-ana/pro-mia groups online).

    I don't like it :/

    Everyone deserves to splurge once in a while, it will help keep you from binging! Have a few bites of the side and share the dessert and put in a good workout tomorrow =)
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    That's a pro-anorexia quote.

    Exactly!! I HATE this quote so much! For me, weight loss isn't about being skinny, it's about being HEALTHY both mentally and physically. I LOVE good food and I'm going to enjoy it along every step of this journey. Weight loss shouldn't be about depriving yourself of foods you love, it should be about learning healthier habits. And those healthy habits include knowing when to indulge!
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member
    She's never had a Rolo McFlurry before!
  • softsculptor
    softsculptor Posts: 102
    Haha! I live in Paris (and my boyfriend is French). I am a huge foodie! That is part of my problem. I love it. I am constantly thinking about what I will eat next.

    The French are thin because they have small portions and don't eat as much junk food. When I say small...I mean small. Breakfast is normally 1/4 to 1/3 of a baguette with jam or Nutella. Lunch is slightly larger, but not really..maybe a sandwich and fruit. Dinner is one helping of something more substantial.

    The exception is when you are eating with friends and family, though. It is just like the holidays back home!
  • CaptainMFP
    CaptainMFP Posts: 440 Member
    Two responses to this quote.

    (1) I've seen in a past forum a great reply from a woman recovering from an eating disorder who pointed out that skinny does not inherently equate to healthy and from her perspective, the difference is not trivial. Having never walked in her shoes, I still agree with her fundamental point.

    (2) IMHO, people who throw this quote around have, I'm guessing, never had a really good crawfish etouffee, never eaten a slice of upside down pumpkin pie with a pecan crust, and never tried a really high-end piece of sashimi. (Or fill in the best foods you've tasted.) For me, it's about eating healthy most of the time...indulgences may undermine skinny but they are not an obstacle to healthy.

    Cheers! :drinker:
  • fitniknik
    fitniknik Posts: 713 Member
    She's never had a Rolo McFlurry before!

    Oh god... I need one
  • ajbeans
    ajbeans Posts: 2,857 Member
    Kate Moss is a liar. Bacon tastes way better than skinny.

    Kate Moss also has an eating disorder. So there's that.

    You don't need to listen to Kate Moss. You need to learn to moderate yourself. To let yourself enjoy food, but not in over-sized portions. Have your cake, but have a small slice and only after a sensible, healthy dinner. Have that soda, but just one this week and balance it out with plenty of water.
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
    Nothing tastes as good as being fit feels.

    Far better. :)
  • BarbWhite09
    BarbWhite09 Posts: 1,128 Member
    It's a pro ana/mia quote...So hopefully you don't quite believe the quote...
  • softsculptor
    softsculptor Posts: 102
    It is only pro-anorexia if you are anorexic. Otherwise, it is a reminder of why you are doing what you are doing.

    There are plenty of people who want to lose weight for appearances who are considered in the "healthy" range. As long as you stay in the healthy range, and are not underweight, there is nothing wrong with that.
  • janiecorona
    janiecorona Posts: 248
    If she ate, I might believe it. Since she doesn't...
  • ninelives58
    ninelives58 Posts: 160 Member
    Hmmm, now that you mention it, it does sound like it could be construed that way (pro-anorexia), but I never thought of it that way before. I must admit that I've said this to myself many, many times when I've been tempted to over-indulge. The phrase reminds me that reaching my goal will be more gratifying than whatever the temptation of the moment is.
  • TheCats_Meow
    TheCats_Meow Posts: 438 Member
    I hate this quote almost more than anything else.

    This quote was made by someone who was strung out on drugs and had an unhealthy relationship with food.

    Yeah, sure I want to agree with anything she has to say about food.

    NOT!

    There are lots of things that taste better than skinny feels. Trust me, that's how my tail got so big in the first place! :laugh:
  • softsculptor
    softsculptor Posts: 102
    Thank you ninelives58, I agree!
  • ninelives58
    ninelives58 Posts: 160 Member
    Nothing tastes as good as being fit feels.

    Far better. :)

    Yes! I like this version much better. Especially since I have no intention of being "skinny". At 53 yrs old, I need a little meat on my bones.
  • summer827
    summer827 Posts: 516 Member
    Two responses to this quote.

    (1) I've seen in a past forum a great reply from a woman recovering from an eating disorder who pointed out that skinny does not inherently equate to healthy and from her perspective, the difference is not trivial. Having never walked in her shoes, I still agree with her fundamental point.

    (2) IMHO, people who throw this quote around have, I'm guessing, never had a really good crawfish etouffee, never eaten a slice of upside down pumpkin pie with a pecan crust, and never tried a really high-end piece of sashimi. (Or fill in the best foods you've tasted.) For me, it's about eating healthy most of the time...indulgences may undermine skinny but they are not an obstacle to healthy.

    Cheers! :drinker:

    Tell me more about this pie you speak of!!
  • emilychristineleask
    emilychristineleask Posts: 33
    STOP THE EATING DISORDER QUOTE BASHING. I hope you realise reading this quote wont make you suffer from an eating disorder... And being in recovery for bulimia, I'll say that this is not something that is souly supported by the eating disorder community, it means to you what ever you like.!! Be a bit more open minded about it!

    If you don't believe the words yourself, that is fair enough, but its suppose to be motivation for people who struggle saying no thankyou to the foods they usually binge one, and NOT telling people to stop eating....!!

    Looool
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    It is only pro-anorexia if you are anorexic. Otherwise, it is a reminder of why you are doing what you are doing.

    There are plenty of people who want to lose weight for appearances who are considered in the "healthy" range. As long as you stay in the healthy range, and are not underweight, there is nothing wrong with that.

    There is a difference between the "healthy range" and actually being HEALTHY. Being healthy is being able to walk around all day at the zoo without being tired or aching within a couple hours. Its being able to chase a toddler and grab him and lift him out of the way of a car.

    Being a "healthy weight" is a misnomer. It just means some statistical analysis says that people in this range are GENERALLY healthier than those who are not. But I am a damn sight healthier than a lot of "healthy range" people I know, even though I'm 15lbs outside of a so called healthy BMI.

    Also for the record, I actually DO like this quote for myself on some days. And I know food tastes good - I LOVE food. I got fat eating unbelievably delicious food in huge quantities (And I don't mean like people think mcdonalds and pizza is delicious, I mean eating sashimi and sushi until I was stuffed to the gills and loving every single little fishy bite).

    And I still have all the delicious things I want in moderation, so to me this isn't a quote about denying myself all foodly pleasures (Even though I guess it is from most people's perspectives and I didn't know it was a Kate moss thing). For me its about being able to say "yeah, that oatmeal toffee cookie would be delicious right now but I have already eaten more than my fair share of delicious food today. We can have that delicious cookie tomorrow when we have a double workout planned. Eating that cookie right now won't taste as good as being skinny feels."

    But I do intend to eat that cookie sometime, just not on a day that I also had homemade biscuits. *cough*

    PS: To the OP - you don't have that much to lose. It sounds to me like you are WAY over-restricting your intake. There's no reason you couldn't have had dessert last night. A super rigid diet that takes away things you enjoy is a DIET THAT IS DESTINED TO FAIL.

    I go over on my calories regularly. REGULARLY. OFTEN! A lot of times I just have the damn cookie, order the cheese plate, or whatever. and that is with my calories already being set quite high compared to some people.

    Skinny people who have NOT dieted down to skinniness eat dessert. The difference is that they don't eat it every day or eat huge portions of it, or they order a lower calorie dinner and fit in their dessert.

    So next time - go to dinner, have a good time, order something lighter for your entry, split the appetizer and dessert, and look at the red number on your diary and think "damn, that was good"
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    It is only pro-anorexia if you are anorexic. Otherwise, it is a reminder of why you are doing what you are doing.

    There are plenty of people who want to lose weight for appearances who are considered in the "healthy" range. As long as you stay in the healthy range, and are not underweight, there is nothing wrong with that.

    No, it's a quote that promotes eating disorders. The meaning behind the quote is, "Do you want to eat, or do you want to be skinny?" That's not really a normal way of thinking. We have to eat in order to live, we might as well enjoy the experience of eating. Food is amazing, there's no reason we should have to deprive ourselves. What's more important is learning how to eat healthy foods in healthy proportions.

    There's nothing wrong with wanting to look a little better, but when physical appearance is prioritized over health it's a bad situation and a slippery slope. Wanting to be a specific size size or wanting to see a specific number on the scale is a mental trap. How many times do people meet their goal and think, "I could go just a little bit farther?" More often than people realize. It's dangerous and this mentality should not be embraced. Our society as a whole is focused on physical appearance instead of health. It's sad, and obviously unhealthy.
  • teezmom
    teezmom Posts: 22
    It is only pro-anorexia if you are anorexic. Otherwise, it is a reminder of why you are doing what you are doing.

    There are plenty of people who want to lose weight for appearances who are considered in the "healthy" range. As long as you stay in the healthy range, and are not underweight, there is nothing wrong with that.
    I agree! Its a motivator for me when I feel strongly tempted to overeat! It tells me that I have to stay focused on my purpose. My purpose is greater than my moment of weakness. I would not use it to keep me from eating at all.
    Hey guys, take the quote lightly!
  • teezmom
    teezmom Posts: 22
    Well said! Absolutely!
    It is only pro-anorexia if you are anorexic. Otherwise, it is a reminder of why you are doing what you are doing.

    There are plenty of people who want to lose weight for appearances who are considered in the "healthy" range. As long as you stay in the healthy range, and are not underweight, there is nothing wrong with that.

    There is a difference between the "healthy range" and actually being HEALTHY. Being healthy is being able to walk around all day at the zoo without being tired or aching within a couple hours. Its being able to chase a toddler and grab him and lift him out of the way of a car.

    Being a "healthy weight" is a misnomer. It just means some statistical analysis says that people in this range are GENERALLY healthier than those who are not. But I am a damn sight healthier than a lot of "healthy range" people I know, even though I'm 15lbs outside of a so called healthy BMI.

    Also for the record, I actually DO like this quote for myself on some days. And I know food tastes good - I LOVE food. I got fat eating unbelievably delicious food in huge quantities (And I don't mean like people think mcdonalds and pizza is delicious, I mean eating sashimi and sushi until I was stuffed to the gills and loving every single little fishy bite).

    And I still have all the delicious things I want in moderation, so to me this isn't a quote about denying myself all foodly pleasures (Even though I guess it is from most people's perspectives and I didn't know it was a Kate moss thing). For me its about being able to say "yeah, that oatmeal toffee cookie would be delicious right now but I have already eaten more than my fair share of delicious food today. We can have that delicious cookie tomorrow when we have a double workout planned. Eating that cookie right now won't taste as good as being skinny feels."

    But I do intend to eat that cookie sometime, just not on a day that I also had homemade biscuits. *cough*

    PS: To the OP - you don't have that much to lose. It sounds to me like you are WAY over-restricting your intake. There's no reason you couldn't have had dessert last night. A super rigid diet that takes away things you enjoy is a DIET THAT IS DESTINED TO FAIL.

    I go over on my calories regularly. REGULARLY. OFTEN! A lot of times I just have the damn cookie, order the cheese plate, or whatever. and that is with my calories already being set quite high compared to some people.

    Skinny people who have NOT dieted down to skinniness eat dessert. The difference is that they don't eat it every day or eat huge portions of it, or they order a lower calorie dinner and fit in their dessert.

    So next time - go to dinner, have a good time, order something lighter for your entry, split the appetizer and dessert, and look at the red number on your diary and think "damn, that was good"
  • softsculptor
    softsculptor Posts: 102
    Quoting: "No, it's a quote that promotes eating disorders. The meaning behind the quote is, 'Do you want to eat, or do you want to be skinny?'"


    That, my friend, is a logical fallacy created by all-or-nothing thinking. She isn't saying that one must not eat in order to be skinny. Nothing in that quote advocates not eating. She is simply suggesting that you put your goal before your indulgences.

    The problem is that people are hyper-sensitive about anything advocating thinness, which is ridiculous. I think this hyper-sensitivity is just adding to obesity epidemic in America. People are using it as an excuse to not watch their weight; it's created this unhealthy mindset that equates watching what you eat with anorexia.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,990 Member
    That is a Kate Moss quote I wish I could believe!

    Today was rough. I have been creating a surplus of calories by eating tiny meals so that I can have dinner with my boyfriend and our mutual friend, but even with this surplus, I am still not able to have dessert and one of the side dishes. I am also cutting the appetizer in half! It kills!
    Tell that to a bulimic. After instructing clients my first few years to cut sweets, sugar, salt, carbs, etc. and see them lose weight, but gain it back because they "missed" their favorites, I am more of a realist as a trainer and don't really tell them to cut anything out now. My clients now don't have issues with dieting and regain. So yes you can have your taste buds happy and still be skinny if you stay in calorie control. That's really all it is.





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  • tmarie2715
    tmarie2715 Posts: 1,111 Member
    I've been thin (healthy BMI) my whole life, and I like the quote. I also love food and OP's point that

    "...simply suggesting that you put your goal before your indulgences."
  • Xtina_Beba
    Xtina_Beba Posts: 218
    I don't believe that quote. In fact, I've noticed people who are overweight tend to not appreciate food as much. Think about the French culture-- they are obsessed with food but are known for being thin.

    Same here! Very true...I read that "Why French Women Don't Get Fat" book just for kicks and it was quite interesting :)
  • Iuno
    Iuno Posts: 1
    To quote the inimitable Julia Child in 1990, "Everybody is overreacting. If fear of food continues, it will be the death of gastronomy in the United States. Fortunately, the French don't suffer from the same hysteria we do. We should enjoy food and have fun. It is one of the simplest and nicest pleasures in life."
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