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I'm a big fan of eating whole foods but, to echo some of the other posters....
What exactly is the problem with whole eggs, bacon, and steak?0 -
assuming identical macros and cals weight loss will be the same or minutely different
^ This.
The premise of your post (OP) is false and this thread (and the replies in it) serve as a good example why one person's "heatlhy" is an ambiguous term. Fortunately, thermodynamics isn't.
EDIT: Furthermore, to indulge this concept taken to a more extreme degree: If you were to take one diet consisting of whole foods and another consisting of a very simple diet that is completely lacking in micros but with the same macro total, and expand this over a long time, then EVENTUALLY I would expect the person lacking in micros to have severe health issues, some of which could interfere with weight/metabolism -- but you'd need to have an idiotic diet and over the course of enough time for micronutrient deficiencies to develop.
In closing though, I stand by my first statement.0 -
STOP PICKING ON CYNTHIA!0
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I know that Jane will lose weight (and fat) at a faster pace than Cynthia will even though they will consume the same amount of calories.
No, you don't KNOW, you BELIEVE.
And you would be wrong.0 -
I must be some sort of weird cow/potato hybrid.0
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Actually, you are wrong.0
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I must be some sort of weird cow/potato hybrid.0
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I must be some sort of weird cow/potato hybrid.
See what I mean!?!?0 -
Weight loss is about calories. They consume the same amount of calories (and have a similar TDEE), they will generally lose at the same pace.
Being healthy is about nutrients. Neither of those hypothetical diets are unhealthy. They both contain a variety of nutrients.
Perspective gained.0 -
I must be some sort of weird cow/potato hybrid.
See what I mean!?!?0 -
I know that Jane will lose weight (and fat) at a faster pace than Cynthia will even though they will consume the same amount of calories.
No, you don't KNOW, you BELIEVE.
And you would be wrong.
^This^0 -
So you're saying that its okay that creamer has all these additives so it can taste like creamer? There are 40 different names for msg, look them up and see what it does to your brain. Then look up GMO... its GENETICALLY MODIFIED ORGANISM... your saying its okay to drink genetically modified creamer? Why would all these ingredients need to be in creamer anyway? shouldnt we just be drinking milk and it say Ingredients: Milk. (even these days milk isnt great for you because they inject it with STERIODS and HORMONES)
Educate yourself, watch movies, read articles, do some research.
This is my favorite part of the thread.
OP educate yourself. You are wrong on MANY of your points.0 -
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Perspective (from Latin perspicere, to see through) in the graphic arts, such as drawing, is an approximate representation, on a flat surface (such as paper), of an image as it is seen by the eye. The two most characteristic features of perspective are that objects are drawn:
* Smaller as their distance from the observer increases
* Foreshortened: the size of an object's dimensions along the line of sight are relatively shorter than dimensions across the line of sight0 -
bah such negativity....
Subject is perspective... this is my perspective based on the knowledge ive learned...
Also if your going to be negative dont reply.
My point was this and only this:
eating 1400 calories of whole foods will not give you the same results of eating a 1400 calorie diet of junk food. take it or leave it.0 -
bah such negativity....
Subject is perspective... this is my perspective based on the knowledge ive learned...
Also if your going to be negative dont reply.
My point was this and only this:
eating 1400 calories of whole foods will not give you the same results of eating a 1400 calorie diet of junk food. take it or leave it.
How is any of this "junk food":
Breakfast: bagel with a little cream cheese, one piece of bacon and one egg. coffee with french vanilla creamer and water.
Snack: Kellogs 90 calorie bar. water
Lunch: 2 slices of pizza cheese only. water
Snack: protein shake. water
Dinner: Steak and veggies. water0 -
bah such negativity....
Subject is perspective... this is my perspective based on the knowledge ive learned...
Also if your going to be negative dont reply.
My point was this and only this:
eating 1400 calories of whole foods will not give you the same results of eating a 1400 calorie diet of junk food. take it or leave it.
How is any of this "junk food":
Breakfast: bagel with a little cream cheese, one piece of bacon and one egg. coffee with french vanilla creamer and water.
Snack: Kellogs 90 calorie bar. water
Lunch: 2 slices of pizza cheese only. water
Snack: protein shake. water
Dinner: Steak and veggies. water
I WAS JUST THROWING FOOD OUT THERE. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE JUST PUT SIMPLE CARB SIMPLE CARB SIMPLE CARB FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT SO PEOPLE WOULDNT TAKE THIS SO LITERALLY.0 -
But fat food ISN'T junk food. Weight loss aside, a diet high in fat (though necessarily low in carbs) can be as good or better for your body than a diet high in carbs. Ketoers, for example, eat up to 70% of their daily calories in fat - whole eggs, lots of butter, tallow, lard, and coconut oil, veggies, steak, etc, and most of us lose weight FAST and in general, our cholesterol and fasting glucose levels look great. The difference is that we treat carbs as junk rather than fat, which is what (some) high carb diets do.
While I agree that "whole" foods are better than "junk" foods, I think your definition of junk food is wrong.0
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