Protein supplements

I'll try it in the blender bottle then putting it in a regular water bottle. My guess I'll go back to ON - just sucks because this was a huge container! I have a habit of buying grape flavored things too. I manange to get it down but it's not my favorite. The ON was a much better taste.

I never said it's fake whey.

There are too many questions concerning health risks concerning rBST (genetically modified growth hormone) and I choose not to ingest it. I did my research and that's how I feel. I would rather eat more natural. Same thing with artificial sweeteners. Just giving my opinion just like everyone else.

Just to let you know, the United States is the only developed nation to permit humans to drink milk from cows given artificial growth hormone (rBST).

and artificial flavoring.....just look at the back of optimum nutrition under ingredients. Better yet, here it is:

Protein Blend (whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, whey peptides), cocoa (processed with alkali), artificial flavors, lecithin, acesulfame potassium, Aminogen®, lactase.

It does say artificial flavors. So, my source of information is right on the package.

I know ON has artificial flavors, but my question was where is your source that shows that health food stores or other protein products that you buy aren't processed and don't have whey that's been derived from any cows exposed to growth hormones? Burden of proof is on you since you stated it, so at least link a product that is devoid of whey with growth hormone in it. If you can't then it's anecdotal. Kinda like the last thread you left after I asked you about Ajinamoto in Japan being a huge distributor of Aspartame and you claimed it was banned in Japan....................

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I never said it wasn't processed. All whey protein powders go through some processing. But how do they differ? The best whey protein powder should be UNHEATED, cold temperature processed.

Okay so I understand that you don't want your protein denatured. With the exception of many RTD's, the majority of powdered proteins don't go through this process. Again my point was to post a link showing a manufacturing plant that doesn't get it's raw materials from milk that's been supplied by cows who were on growth hormone.

I buy different protein powders all the time. Some whey (which states cold processed, rBST Free and no artificial sweeteners), Hempseed protein or Pea protein. Go on google and search for rBST free protein powders. If they don't have a rBST Free label than the whey is treated with it.

Wait....Hempseed protein and pea protein isn't whey. And it's not up to me to post your claim. "Burden of proof" is on YOU since you made the claim that there are rBST free whey proteins that are verifiable. I've never seen a CERTIFIED label (EX: if something is CERTIFIED ORGANIC then it's been examined by the organization that approves it) for rBST whey protein. Manufacturers make "claims" about their products all the time. It's called advertising. To actually have CERTIFICATION of those claims is different.


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