What happened to happy holidays?

You're right, it's not the point.

My point is, that someone's religion shouldn't determine their right to time off work.

It's not so much about religion as about practicality. Imagine if everyone was to take a different day off in December. And what would define an official "religion" that allows you a day off? What if I want November 29th off because it's "Cheese day" in my religion?

If you are upset that people say merry christmas instead of happy holidays then maybe you should go to work over the christmas period and not take any time off. After all it is not part of your religion.

Christmas is a christian holiday. The holiday didn't come first then christians decided to use it to celebrate christmas.

It is entirely ignorant to think that there aren't other religious holidays that happen to fall around the same time as Christmas - hence the words "Happy HolidayS"

You're right, it's not the point.

My point is, that someone's religion shouldn't determine their right to time off work.

You're right, thier religion shouldn't, but thier leave balance should.

Add the number of 'religious' holidays into the standard leave entitlement and then everyone gets thier own special day off if they put in for leave. And the date wouldn't change so they can plan it nice and early with thier employer.

If you are upset that people say merry christmas instead of happy holidays then maybe you should go to work over the christmas period and not take any time off. After all it is not part of your religion.

Christmas is a christian holiday. The holiday didn't come first then christians decided to use it to celebrate christmas.

Er....... Yes it did? It was invented 300 years after the guy it's supposed to be about. It was invented to coincide with pagan celebrations.

You should be forced to work the holidays for clearly knowing nothing about it

I do work the holidays but that is besides the point.
The holiday season, wether stolen of the pagans or not, is used a christian holiday in modern western society. So although other religions also have celebrations around this time, in America, Australia, England etc, the holidays are known as the christmas holidays.
Christmas day - 25 Dec - is the public holiday (in Aus at least) not any of the other days!

Wow, so, you're basically saying that none of the other religions matter because they don't have publicly recognized holidays?

And, FYI, though the other holidays may not be recognized as "observed" on the calendars, employers are obligated to give those people time off in order to practice their religion, just as they are with Christians. Furthermore, it's hardly a Christian holiday, anymore. I don't know about Australia, but, in America, it's an extremely secular, capitalist holiday. Christmas as we know it today arose from the Victorian era. It's very different from its origins.

Like the other person said, too, it was a pagan holiday that the Christians usurped (after the supposed birth of Jesus) in order to convert more people. I think the consensus among biblical scholars is that Jesus was actually born around April, as that would have been when the census was taken.

Honestly, as stressed out as most retail workers are this time of year, you should just count it as a blessing that she said "Merry Christmas" instead of "Get the Hell Out!" or something even less clean... Seriously - she wished you happiness. Leave it at that. Don't get all nitpicky about whether or not she chose the perfect words to do so. The sentiment was positive and happy. Leave it at that. And as a Christian who knows that there are lots of other celebrations going on this time of year, I'd be thrilled to be wished a Happy Hannukah or Yule or whatever.

If a cashier be rude to a customer they need to be fired.

You've clearly never worked in retail.

If a cashier be rude to a customer they need to be fired.

You've clearly never worked in retail.

I still dont get what the uproar is about when it was meant to be a polite greeting and not something offensive. Im 99.9% SURE the cashier didnt have Jesus or Christianity on her mind when she said it to you. :noway:

ETA: The reason I know this is because I have worked retail at Christmas time and let me tell you the thought process that goes on....

Get to work, see the hordes of impatient customers that would rather shoot you in the eye than stand in a long line, which TOO bad happens every day of the whole month following Black Friday... Then you get set up at your register, get MOBBED by 20 customers fighting to get in line first. Once thats established you start ringing stuff with them keeping a hawks eye on the price because heaven forbid that Penny Poopnik doll rings up 9.96 when the sign said 9.95! So you do this for hours while customer after customer chats you up about drivel in their lives, screams incessantly at their kids to shut up and behave or Santa WONT visit them this year! Do this for several hours and I guarantee you arent thinking about the true meaning of Christmas, At that point you are just being polite and trying not to lose your sanity because you REALLY need that 7.25(minimum wage) an hour!

This post reminds me of the old navy commercial where they would say "happy merry chrismahanukwanzaaka" lol

Why does it matter? Why did the original poster become so offended? What a close minded way to think. This is the best time of year where cheer and happiness are supposed to be at an all time high! Celebrate it and express it however you choose, but MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!

I'm Jewish and if someone wishes me Merry Christmas, I don't have a problem with it. After all, if the worst thing that can happen to me as a Jewish man is to have someone wish me a Merry Christmas, then we've come a LONG way in the last 70 years.

That being said, Christmas is not the only holiday that happens in the month of December, and it doesn't occur on the 10th of December. Happy Holidays is a more appropriate greeting to reference the entire season, particularly when it's two weeks away from Christmas. I don't mind being wished a Merry Christmas, but I hope that Christians then wouldn't mind being wished a Happy Hannukah or Asura. If you would have an issue with it, then maybe you need to reflect on your own tolerance.

Yes, but if you use this logic, we could technically say "Happy Holidays" all year. Then it would just get boring.

It has always been Merry Christmas... it is a Christian Day !!! The day was made because it is a time that was set for Jesus birth, Geez i dont know when it came to be.. they say happy Hollidays.

To me if you dont share the belief..why share the "holliday?" lol just saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah um

Pagans celebrate yule

Jews celebrate Hanukkah

Muslims....well im not really sure what they have but you get the point.

The holiday season doesn't belong to Christianity

HALLELUJAH

some people are very ignorant on certain topics.

I don't say Happy Holidays because I celebrate Christmas, and part of celebrating Christmas is rejoicing in the life of Christ, therefore telling everyone to have a merry christmas. If someone were to tell me "Happy Hanukkah!" I would not be offended, because it's their belief and they are happy in their religion, so why be bothered? It doesn't change my beliefs.

and also, MFP is supposed to be a positive place where people that share goals of better health and weight loss can come together to share ideas and give support. what a pointless, random thread. i feel silly for even responding, but i had to put my 2 cents in

Technically it's in the Chit-Chat section, so people are free to discuss whatever topics they please, weight-loss related or otherwise. I wouldn't really say it's "pointless".

HI all.

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