would you eat this?

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  • HealthyBodySickMind
    HealthyBodySickMind Posts: 1,207 Member
    the protein in raw eggs is less bioavailable

    source?

    just curious. i don't eat raw (rare beef, but not raw), but i feed my dog raw (eggs, chicken, beef, pork, fish, deer, rabbit, bison, etc) and it was my understanding that, at least for canines, the proteins were more easily and quickly digested, as well as more bioavailable, when raw.

    Evenepoel et al. Digestibility of Cooked and Raw Egg Protein in Humans as Assessed by Stable Isotope Techniques. J. Nutr. October 1, 1998 vol. 128 no. 10 1716-1722

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/10/1716.full

    nice, thanks! that's what i was wondering, too, it was human specific study. i don't think i'd want to be the human test subjects that were fed "heavy" (isotope-labeled) eggs, though, haha.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    the protein in raw eggs is less bioavailable

    source?

    just curious. i don't eat raw (rare beef, but not raw), but i feed my dog raw (eggs, chicken, beef, pork, fish, deer, rabbit, bison, etc) and it was my understanding that, at least for canines, the proteins were more easily and quickly digested, as well as more bioavailable, when raw.

    Evenepoel et al. Digestibility of Cooked and Raw Egg Protein in Humans as Assessed by Stable Isotope Techniques. J. Nutr. October 1, 1998 vol. 128 no. 10 1716-1722

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/10/1716.full

    nice, thanks! that's what i was wondering, too, it was human specific study. i don't think i'd want to be the human test subjects that were fed "heavy" (isotope-labeled) eggs, though, haha.

    for the specifics
    In this study, it was shown that after ingestion of 25 g of raw egg protein, almost 50% is malabsorbed over 24 h. The higher digestibility of cooked egg protein presumably results from structural changes in the protein molecule induced by heating, thereby enabling the digestive enzymes to gain broader access to the peptide bonds. It has been suggested that the reduced digestibility of raw egg white is at least partially related to the presence of trypsin inhibitors in raw egg white (Matthews 1990). Ovomucoid is quantitatively the most important trypsin inhibitor (Gilbert 1971, Kassell 1970). Ovomucoid, however, does not react with human trypsin and, moreover, is relatively heat stable (Kasell 1970). Whether other egg trypsin inhibitors (e.g., ovoinhibitor or papain inhibitor) interfere with the digestibility of unprocessed egg white protein is unknown.
  • javamonster
    javamonster Posts: 272 Member
    No. I think safety dictates that chicken placenta be cooked.


    bleh, you just made eggs sound disgusting. And I love eggs! lol

    You had to awaken the Food Science monster. :grumble: Chicken embryos do not have placentae (and the eggs humans eat are unfertilized, and are not embryos anyway). The placenta is unique to certain mammals. The white of a chicken egg is called the albumen. :wink:

    Freshly laid eggs *should* be sterile. The trick is catching it before it touches anything! There is also a strain of _Salmonella_ that can enter eggs during formation if the flock is diseased, so eat at your own risk. :wink: It takes a very very small number or organisms to induce Salmonellosis.
  • spacedebris
    spacedebris Posts: 10
    Raw chicken ??? No way

    Wasn't that the demise of the Neanderthal ?
  • 81Kyra
    81Kyra Posts: 115
    My dad used to drink 3 raw eggs every morning when he was a fire fighter(the eggs were always fresh from my grandparents chickens). He also made my sisters and I chocolate milk blended with raw eggs. I loved it when I was a kid couldn't do it now lol everything else sounds good to me lots of protein and fiber!
  • xSophia19
    xSophia19 Posts: 1,536 Member
    EWWWW! i wouldnt eat that if you payed me!:laugh:
  • SergeantSunshine_reused
    SergeantSunshine_reused Posts: 5,382 Member


    Yes, but I'd substitute the eggs with either more whey or some soy, and I'd add some fruits and maybe some green veggie juice from my juicer.

    Why would you sub with more whey? Curious :D
  • puzwuz1
    puzwuz1 Posts: 42
    That is essentially my morning breakfast every time I workout to get my protein in after my workout and then for a good breakfast that will last me a while through the day. I do cook the eggs though and add spinach.
  • zeeeb
    zeeeb Posts: 805 Member
    nup... raw eggs,i don't do and oats, i'd rather not pretty much unless they are in museli.

    i boil up 7 or 8 eggs at a time, and leave them boiled in the frigdge, so i can have a boiled cold egg on the run when i'm feeling ravenous. and often i'll have a diet shake and a boiled egg for breaky, it takes about 2 minutes to make and eat breakfast and be out the door with a full stomach.
  • lowfat270
    lowfat270 Posts: 5
    leave out the raw egg. That's a no-no for me. The rest sounds okay
  • kdeven
    kdeven Posts: 22 Member
    I add egg whites and whey protien to my oatmeal, but then I cook it. It just tastes like oatmeal, but you get the added protien.
  • LovelyMumOf2
    LovelyMumOf2 Posts: 76
    never will I eat raw eggs. :noway:
  • stronglikebull
    stronglikebull Posts: 402
    that's what my diary looks like in the morning too. i use information for raw eggs because i cook them as is and i don't trust the database entries for scrambled eggs because there's no way to know what else was added into that besides the eggs themselves. same with the oats, i cook them with water and i'm not going to log freakin water.

    i've eaten raw oats and its not terrible but i'd have a texture issue with raw eggs. from a health standpoint, bring it on! i guess i need to learn to swallow in big gulps ;)
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,256 Member
    I quess for people that say they wouldn't eat eggs raw, you wouldn't eat ceasar salad.:devil:
  • HealthyBodySickMind
    HealthyBodySickMind Posts: 1,207 Member
    egg-nog anyone?
  • exacerbe
    exacerbe Posts: 447 Member
    I quess for people that say they wouldn't eat eggs raw, you wouldn't eat ceasar salad.:devil:

    Yeah, but doesn't the vinegar/acidic ingredient "cook" the egg?
  • rosebarnalice
    rosebarnalice Posts: 3,488 Member
    no. Waaay too much food for my breakfast! I average ~ 160 calories at breakfast!
  • Spearo
    Spearo Posts: 47
    Sure, all good except the oatmeal in any state!
    If I ate breakfast.
    8^p
  • RAFValentina
    RAFValentina Posts: 1,231 Member
    Sounds vile and definitely not something I'd eat everyday and sounds like its got something in it that's not natural... i.e. the whey powder... make good old oatmeal with plain porridge oats and skimmed milk and water, add some honey and something like chopped banana. spot on.
  • Debbe2
    Debbe2 Posts: 2,071 Member
    Just curious; do you know, is the protein less bioavailable in raw fish as well??
    the protein in raw eggs is less bioavailable

    source?

    just curious. i don't eat raw (rare beef, but not raw), but i feed my dog raw (eggs, chicken, beef, pork, fish, deer, rabbit, bison, etc) and it was my understanding that, at least for canines, the proteins were more easily and quickly digested, as well as more bioavailable, when raw.

    Evenepoel et al. Digestibility of Cooked and Raw Egg Protein in Humans as Assessed by Stable Isotope Techniques. J. Nutr. October 1, 1998 vol. 128 no. 10 1716-1722

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/10/1716.full

    nice, thanks! that's what i was wondering, too, it was human specific study. i don't think i'd want to be the human test subjects that were fed "heavy" (isotope-labeled) eggs, though, haha.

    for the specifics
    In this study, it was shown that after ingestion of 25 g of raw egg protein, almost 50% is malabsorbed over 24 h. The higher digestibility of cooked egg protein presumably results from structural changes in the protein molecule induced by heating, thereby enabling the digestive enzymes to gain broader access to the peptide bonds. It has been suggested that the reduced digestibility of raw egg white is at least partially related to the presence of trypsin inhibitors in raw egg white (Matthews 1990). Ovomucoid is quantitatively the most important trypsin inhibitor (Gilbert 1971, Kassell 1970). Ovomucoid, however, does not react with human trypsin and, moreover, is relatively heat stable (Kasell 1970). Whether other egg trypsin inhibitors (e.g., ovoinhibitor or papain inhibitor) interfere with the digestibility of unprocessed egg white protein is unknown.
  • bloodguilt
    bloodguilt Posts: 126
    Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Sodium
    Egg Raw - Large, 3 large 210 3 14 19 0 195
    Whey Protein 52g Vanilla, 1 scoop (33g) 140 3 2 26 0 65
    Quaker Oats - Quick 1 Min, 1/4 CUP DRY 75 14 2 3 2 0

    Just something i tried this morning and wanted to get some thoughts on it

    It s pretty good. I even take about 6-8 hard boiled eggs and one yolk.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    I wouldn't personally eat raw egg whites very often because I'd rather not become biotin deficient. Google "egg white injury." Every so often probably isn't a big deal, but you might not want to make it a regular thing.
  • Oishii
    Oishii Posts: 2,675 Member
    I'm off the raw eggs while I'm pregnant, but I LOVED a raw egg cracked over my bowl of steaming soba when I lived in Japan... Or mixed into my fermented soy beans until they got really slimy and a bit frothy. And egg flip as a kid (milk, vanilla, raw egg) which I lived off when I had tonsillitis and couldn't swallow.

    So, basically, raw eggs rock, bioavailable or not.
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