counting green tea as water

I disagree with counting anything you drink as water. Personally if you drink a cup of coffee loaded down with cream and sugar there's no way in hell it should be counted as water.

I count water as water (obviously) and tea if I add nothing to it and it's plain tea. Once I start adding sugar (or buying bottles of green tea drink loaded with sugar and other things) I don't count it as water.

Havent had to do this in a while!

Here we go again!

You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!

http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/


As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.

di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.

Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.


http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what

http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/

http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm

http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html

http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not

http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php

http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo

Havent had to do this in a while!

Here we go again!

You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!

http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/


As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.

di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.

Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.


http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what

http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/

http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm

http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html

http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not

http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php

http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo

You seem to be so well-versed in this subject but never touch on why we need the magic number 8 cups per day? Even your articles say that's not true. What about the fact that we need roughly half our body weight in oz of water but up to 40% of that can come from food like fresh fruits and vegetables, but most people don't eat enough fruits and vegetables and drink too many caloric chemical soups like soda instead of water? Maybe you can find some articles on that, instead of articles that don't even support the point you're trying to make? Check out "Your Body's Many Cries for Water" by F. Batmanghelidj, M.D or watercure.com

remember, the rule isn't referring to NEAT water. Just water. And if something you have, like coffee, has water in it, it doesn't suddenly become a solid when you add something to it.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you "count" it or not. Your body IS getting hydration from it. Fact. It doesn't stop just because you don't "count" it.

Havent had to do this in a while!

Here we go again!

You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!

http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/


As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.

di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.

Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.


http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what

http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/

http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm

http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html

http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not

http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php

http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo

You seem to be so well-versed in this subject but never touch on the magic number of why we need 8 cups per day? What about the fact that we need roughly half our body weight in oz of water but up to 40% of that can come from food like fresh fruits and vegetables? Maybe you can find some articles on that.

I'm familiar with a few of those links and some of them do talk about the supposed need for eight cups a day and the fact that water does not have to enter the stomach "uncontaminated" with any other substance.

The bottom line is that the often quoted figure of eight cups a day has never been suggested as a standard requirement by any research, and giving a one number fits all amount is ridiculous - so ridiculous in fact, that when I first joined this site I nearly gave up on the site when I saw it incorporated such an ill informed concept.

The requirement, as everyone with half a brain surely realises, varies wildly depending on physical work done, climate, body weight etc etc etc. When walking round historical sites in the Middle East in the summer, I needed approximately three times the total fluid intake than I normally need doing a similar amount of walking in a British winter.

EDITED TO ADD: Really... Do people honestly think that your stomach and digestive tract have any way of differentiating whether the water molecules that are in their digestive fluids originally swilled down their throat as "pure" water and then mixed with dryish food that had just been eaten (eg a chicken salad), or entered the body as chicken soup.

WATER is a diuretic. Diuretic has nothing to do with dehydration. All a diuretic does is help eliminate excess water. Can this myth please die?

THANK YOU!

Ay-yi-yi!

You can't have caffeine because it's a diuretic! You can't have salt because it makes you retain water! So, if I put a teaspoon of salt in my diet soda, THEN can I count it as water? just kidding, of course.

I don't count mine, but not intentionally--I'd just never thought of it.

I count everything, even though I only drink water and green tea. If it has calories I log it aswell.my boyfriend drinks no water at all, he can't stand it. He drinks diet soda and tea or coffee with milk and sugar, he's not dehydrated and is steadily losing weight with no effects of dehydration.