Cutting all flour based products for 2012

CUT3ANDS3XIAN0R3X1
CUT3ANDS3XIAN0R3X1 Posts: 24
edited October 7 in Health and Weight Loss
Things like bread, pasta, rices, cake, cinnamon rolls- all the good stuff.
What are some good things I can eat to fill the hole in my heart? :]
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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Things like bread, pasta, rices, cake, cinnamon rolls- all the good stuff.
    What are some good things I can eat to fill the hole in my heart? :]

    Do you have some sort of metabolic disorder that is causing you to cut all these things out? If not, there is no reason you can't lose weight eating all the above
  • crystal84rose
    crystal84rose Posts: 53 Member
    You are a way stronger person than I am... I love bread too much to cut out all that stuff! Good work though!
  • CUT3ANDS3XIAN0R3X1
    CUT3ANDS3XIAN0R3X1 Posts: 24
    No metabolic disorder. I had a conversation with a gentleman who has one, and according to him, weight literally fell off. To me, there is nothing wrong with substituting a hamburger bun with a leaf of lettuce, or just fighting to let go of the delicious carbs in mac and cheese. I like to try new things, and I feel like this is something I can do.
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    I am grain-free, but I still use non-grain flours to make things like pancakes, buns, etc. for occasional consumption. I guess the question is why you are cutting them out. Because processed foods trigger overeating? Are you looking for sweet or starchy substitutes? (And if so, are there other triggers that we need to be aware of?) Fill us in with a few more detals.

    Pam
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    No metabolic disorder. I had a conversation with a gentleman who has one, and according to him, weight literally fell off. To me, there is nothing wrong with substituting a hamburger bun with a leaf of lettuce, or just fighting to let go of the delicious carbs in mac and cheese. I like to try new things, and I feel like this is something I can do.

    Just to enlighten you, low carb diets have no metabolic advantage, any greater weightloss seen in low carb diets is water weight
  • Goldenbast
    Goldenbast Posts: 227 Member
    It may help the weight melt off, but at what price? A healthy, balanced diet should have grains, myplate.gov suggests a certain amount of grains and that half the total should be the whole wheat variety. I would research this idea a bit more, just to be on the safe side that there are no health risks associated with cutting out all flour products. Honestly? My diet is composed by following the myplate.gov guidelines and staying within or just under the calorie intake suggested here and I am dropping the weight off like crazy...but I have also started exercising almost every day so that may account for some of it...but just research your idea to make sure you are not missing out on a healthy building block of your nutrition.
  • CUT3ANDS3XIAN0R3X1
    CUT3ANDS3XIAN0R3X1 Posts: 24
    I have certain neverending downfalls. I could probably sit and shove Olive Garden bread sticks down my throat all day, lol. Mac and cheese is seriously one of my favorite foods of all time. Even when full, these are examples of things I WILL NOT stop eating when they're in my presence. In my household, there is always something tempting, staring right at me saying "Amy...eat me, you know you want to." Usually, it is a delicious cupcake. I learned to tell it no, however, with an increasing amount of stress in my life, carbs are the perfect sort of therapy. I'm not looking for a specific type of substitute, it is only that breads and pastas were a big part of my life, and now that they're gone, I need some new things to try out.
  • elcieloesazul
    elcieloesazul Posts: 448 Member
    I had a family member do it for about a year and she said she had never felt better. She did it as a sort of "cleanse," though, if you will. But, good for you for trying new things. I hope it works out!
  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    Did he have a gluten intolerance? That's the only reason I can think of that would cause such a response.

    I'm totally gluten free, rice cakes and homemade gluten-free breads are delicious.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    I have eliminated whole groups of 'trigger' foods in the past, and it can help. I went sugar-free a couple of years ago, and my sweet tooth still hasn't come back. If refined flour products are things that just keep you eating beyond a reasonable point, I see no harm in getting rid of them, at least for a while.
  • pkarim
    pkarim Posts: 171
    I was hoping to try Paleo for the entire month of January I know many people that have done it and now it is their lifestyle. They still eat pancakes and waffles but they make them out of almond or coconut flour. I am really excited so lets see how it goes. You may also be interested in this study http://www.standard.net/stories/2011/12/20/studies-low-carb-diet-superior-low-calorie
  • RonneyKay
    RonneyKay Posts: 464 Member
    I know I just feel better when I dont eat processed food. When I do eat it, i get stomach upset, bloating, and tired, I just don't feel good. But I continue to try my best to keep a balanced diet.
  • shellyc7182
    shellyc7182 Posts: 261 Member
    I have certain neverending downfalls. I could probably sit and shove Olive Garden bread sticks down my throat all day, lol. Mac and cheese is seriously one of my favorite foods of all time. Even when full, these are examples of things I WILL NOT stop eating when they're in my presence.

    That's entirely the point of MFP though. You shouldn't have to deprive yourself of things you obviously love (it's M&M's and popcorn for me), just exercise a little restraint with them. I couldn't go without carbs/grains/flour products... I love bread. And pasta. And rice. And cupcakes! :happy:
  • KellyAnneH
    KellyAnneH Posts: 38 Member
    I eat very little sugar and limit my grains to 2-4 servings a day and pretty much only eat whole grains at that, but don't think I could eliminate them entirely unless I had a serious health issue that required it. What about just switching to whole grains only? That would get rid of most of your trigger foods. (I could eat white flour stuff ALL day long, but I know what I'd feel like...)
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I was hoping to try Paleo for the entire month of January I know many people that have done it and now it is their lifestyle. They still eat pancakes and waffles but they make them out of almond or coconut flour. I am really excited so lets see how it goes. You may also be interested in this study http://www.standard.net/stories/2011/12/20/studies-low-carb-diet-superior-low-calorie

    Do you happen to have the study in question? the only published one by the author quoted in the article was this one;

    The effects of intermittent or continuous energy restriction on weight loss and metabolic disease risk markers: a randomised trial in young overweight women. Int J Obes (Lond). 2011 May; 35(5): 714–727.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017674/?tool=pubmed
    The CER group were prescribed a daily 25% restriction based on a Mediterranean type diet (30% fat, 15% monounsaturated, 7% saturated fat, 7% polyunsaturated fatty acids, 45% low glycaemic load carbohydrate, and 25% protein) (29). The IER group were asked to undertake a VLCD (75% restriction) on 2 consecutive days and to consume estimated requirements for weight maintenance for the remaining 5 days according to the nutrient composition above.

    Weight loss was similar in both diets

    ?report=previmg
  • DannyMussels
    DannyMussels Posts: 1,842 Member
    I do it for the simple reason that most things that contain that are high-calorie and are huge portion-wise.

    Check the weight on pasta you get in a restaurant and try tellin me it's actually one portion.

    Same goes with bread and, baked goods. Volume-wise you're getting very little for the amount you're actually eating.

    Compare a dinner roll around 100-150 calories to a cup of fresh berries at 50 calories.

    You could go on and on.

    'everything in moderation' i guess. But for me, its easier to cut that junk out and save 300-400 fairly empty calories a day.
  • DannyMussels
    DannyMussels Posts: 1,842 Member
    Oh, and for anyone wanting to argue, check the nutritional info at any popular restaurant. Olive gardens pastas weigh in at 1200-1500 calories a dish. Being mostly flour based, its safe to say you dont' want all your calories to come from one meal.

    Their rolls and breadsticks start off around 150 calories each, eat 2 or 3 of them and its nearly a third of what most of you on here should be eating.

    Again, its pretty easy to avoid that stuff.

    Or eat it every day, and workout for an extra 2 hours................................................................
  • Momkat65
    Momkat65 Posts: 317 Member
    try spaghetti squash and /or miracle noodles to replace your pasta
  • pkarim
    pkarim Posts: 171
    I was hoping to try Paleo for the entire month of January I know many people that have done it and now it is their lifestyle. They still eat pancakes and waffles but they make them out of almond or coconut flour. I am really excited so lets see how it goes. You may also be interested in this study http://www.standard.net/stories/2011/12/20/studies-low-carb-diet-superior-low-calorie

    Do you happen to have the study in question? the only published one by the author quoted in the article was this one;

    The effects of intermittent or continuous energy restriction on weight loss and metabolic disease risk markers: a randomised trial in young overweight women. Int J Obes (Lond). 2011 May; 35(5): 714–727.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017674/?tool=pubmed
    The CER group were prescribed a daily 25% restriction based on a Mediterranean type diet (30% fat, 15% monounsaturated, 7% saturated fat, 7% polyunsaturated fatty acids, 45% low glycaemic load carbohydrate, and 25% protein) (29). The IER group were asked to undertake a VLCD (75% restriction) on 2 consecutive days and to consume estimated requirements for weight maintenance for the remaining 5 days according to the nutrient composition above.

    Weight loss was similar in both diets

    ?report=previmg

    Sure http://www.aacr.org/home/public--media/aacr-press-releases.aspx?d=2649
    it is also found in a medical journal but i don't remember which one but you can look it up through the link :)
  • ObviousIndigo
    ObviousIndigo Posts: 382 Member
    Almond flour/meal makes a great substitute for baking. There a a lot of recipes online. pretty much if you type something into google with almond flour in it there will be a recipe. You have to be careful though as it is very calorie dense:)
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Oh, and for anyone wanting to argue, check the nutritional info at any popular restaurant. Olive gardens pastas weigh in at 1200-1500 calories a dish. Being mostly flour based, its safe to say you dont' want all your calories to come from one meal.

    Their rolls and breadsticks start off around 150 calories each, eat 2 or 3 of them and its nearly a third of what most of you on here should be eating.

    Again, its pretty easy to avoid that stuff.

    Or eat it every day, and workout for an extra 2 hours................................................................

    you're using extremes, what about if it's a slice of toast with breakfast or a cookie that's likely under 150cals? Seeing as the more restrictive a diet is, the worse adherence to said diet is, it's likely better to not cut out entire food groups/products and instead consume them in moderation
  • lisateachawa
    lisateachawa Posts: 166 Member
    My doc suggested for me to read the "Wheat Belly" book. I ordered it and am going to try and follow it. I have always loved breads and tend to over eat them. So if I can eat more healthy using fruits and veggies instead of bread - why not! So I also will be cutting out flour based products and ones with gluten. (sugar and soda ,too)
    Feel free to add me as a friend. We are in the same food boat :)
  • rico1923
    rico1923 Posts: 32
    No metabolic disorder. I had a conversation with a gentleman who has one, and according to him, weight literally fell off. To me, there is nothing wrong with substituting a hamburger bun with a leaf of lettuce, or just fighting to let go of the delicious carbs in mac and cheese. I like to try new things, and I feel like this is something I can do.

    You can use lettuce instead of bread, radicchio/endive/jicama instead of crackers; spaghetti sqash/zucchini strands(cut with a veg. peeler) for pasta; eggplant/zucchini layers in your lasagna; tomatoes/peppers/winter squash/portabella mushrooms are great for filling up with some kind of stuffing; sweet potato/butternut squash/pureed cauliflower are good substitutes for potatoes- lots of choices out there to cut down on simple carbs. Just find a comfort zone and go for it-gets real easy after 2 weeks.
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    My diet focused on fruits and veggies, beans and lentils, any nuts and seeds that I am not allergic to, eggs and tofu. My carbs are usually quinoa, buckwheat, or potato. I do some baking with buckwheat and tapioca flour occasionally, but minimal, and since I have to make it all from scratch, I don't go overboard!

    Let me know if you need more details or help.

    Pam
  • eillamarie
    eillamarie Posts: 862 Member
    No metabolic disorder. I had a conversation with a gentleman who has one, and according to him, weight literally fell off. To me, there is nothing wrong with substituting a hamburger bun with a leaf of lettuce, or just fighting to let go of the delicious carbs in mac and cheese. I like to try new things, and I feel like this is something I can do.

    You need some grains, even people with gluten intollerances need grains. Cut out refined grains (white rice, white bread, etc). If you want to go gluten free then just make sure you eat a lot of brown rice & quinoa. Quinoa is amazing, lots of protein too!
  • shakybabe
    shakybabe Posts: 1,578 Member
    I found wheat was the issue for me i have to say I had huge tummy 48" around and I'm only 5ft 3 and half.. since I cut wheat (not ALL carbs/grains) my tummy has shrunk... tummy now down to 35 ", waist is currently 31" (from 38 " hoping to get them both down to 30" so can fit in some skinny 30 " waist jeans!!

    There is a book called wheat belly or something which I've heard of but not the read the whole thing. my daily and monthly water fluctuations are also much less my weight previously varied by about 5lb per day now its 1lb... monthlies I'd put on 6-10lb and it'd take a week to come off.. now around 4lb and going off after a few days.

    I use gluten free bread which is actually higher calorie than regular bread but still I've lost 32lb and all those inches off tummy and waist. I still eat rice and oats.. i don't check all ingredients of everything for wheat/gluten but just cutting out the bulk of it daily worked for me.

    Previously although I was calorie counting I was having healthy wheat based cereals for breakfast - special K etc, lunch usually involved a 'healthy' salad sandwich, pitta bread or wrap (all wheat based) and dinner usually involved pasta, rice, or potatoes EVERYday.

    I tried brown rice and didn't like it, meaning to try quinoa but keep forgetting to add it to my shopping list! I just use cauliflower whizzed up in processor and steamed in place of rice with curry/chilli and a soft corn tortilla in place of chapatti/naan bread or wheat based tortilla.
  • shakybabe
    shakybabe Posts: 1,578 Member
    No metabolic disorder. I had a conversation with a gentleman who has one, and according to him, weight literally fell off. To me, there is nothing wrong with substituting a hamburger bun with a leaf of lettuce, or just fighting to let go of the delicious carbs in mac and cheese. I like to try new things, and I feel like this is something I can do.

    You need some grains, even people with gluten intollerances need grains. Cut out refined grains (white rice, white bread, etc). If you want to go gluten free then just make sure you eat a lot of brown rice & quinoa. Quinoa is amazing, lots of protein too!

    what does Quinoa taste like by the way? .. I'm a bit nervous of buying a bag of it.. like did brown rice then not liking it and it getting thrown away.. I don't have a big budget to be able to afford throwing away food frequently if I don't like it.
  • fitJoce
    fitJoce Posts: 137 Member
    I cut out all the white stuff and lost 30 lbs. I was addicted to the stuff and found that after 2 weeks of cleansing myself I was free of the cravings. Yes, grains are ok, but there is no nutritional value in the white stuff. try sticking to whole grains and you will be fine. In the last few days I let myself eat a lot of crap and today I feel like crap.
  • Nerdy_Rose
    Nerdy_Rose Posts: 1,277 Member
    I'm gluten-free because I have an intolerance (not sure if this is what you are looking for). I cook with rice flour, corn pasta, rice pasta, corn starch.. There's also potato flour, but it is 4x as expensive haha. I get my pre-made gluten-free stuff at Whole Foods.

    Quinoa is delicious. I recently tried a quinoa burger recipe that I LOVED. Message me if you want the recipe. It does have rice flour in it.
  • Nerdy_Rose
    Nerdy_Rose Posts: 1,277 Member
    No metabolic disorder. I had a conversation with a gentleman who has one, and according to him, weight literally fell off. To me, there is nothing wrong with substituting a hamburger bun with a leaf of lettuce, or just fighting to let go of the delicious carbs in mac and cheese. I like to try new things, and I feel like this is something I can do.

    You need some grains, even people with gluten intollerances need grains. Cut out refined grains (white rice, white bread, etc). If you want to go gluten free then just make sure you eat a lot of brown rice & quinoa. Quinoa is amazing, lots of protein too!

    what does Quinoa taste like by the way? .. I'm a bit nervous of buying a bag of it.. like did brown rice then not liking it and it getting thrown away.. I don't have a big budget to be able to afford throwing away food frequently if I don't like it.

    Quinoa is kind of like grits, if you just cook up a big pot of it, but it has lots of uses and is very mild and easily spiced to suit different dishes.
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