sugars

TeresaC79
TeresaC79 Posts: 316 Member
edited October 7 in Food and Nutrition
i'm tracking my sugar intake as it is one of my pitfalls. i can not seem to stay within my goals and this is when i'm NOT eating candies, cakes, cookies, etc. I'm going over with natural foods, like honey and carrots. I want to have more carrots, but I only have 2 grams of sugar left for today. I realize the honey on my whole grain waffle was what did it in for me today, but is going over with carrots a bad thing?

is there a difference in bad sugar and good sugar?

Replies

  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Carrots, good - honey, not so good. Go ahead and eat your carrots, cut back on the honey tomorrow. T
  • chickybuns
    chickybuns Posts: 1,037 Member
    Sugars from fruit and other natural foods are of course better than refined sugar. I personally feel that MFP sets sugar very low. As long as you're eating healthy, I wouldn't worry about being a little over.
  • Way to many sugars in most fruit and yougart when it says fat free or low fat look a carbs you will see high carbs = High sugars
  • TeresaC79
    TeresaC79 Posts: 316 Member
    So, I don't eat yogurt, not problems there. I'll cut out the honey tomorrow. I had been dipping the waffle in no sugar added apple sauce. Which was good, but I thought the honey would be a better alternative to syrups. Guess not. :frown:

    Oh well, back to the apple sauce.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    The difference between the two exist on how the body digests it and how fast it hits the body, and how fast it can exit the body.

    Total carbohydrate count is composed of:
    actual carbohydrates
    sugar
    soluable fiber
    insoluable fiber
    alternative sugar substitutes
    .,....just to name off a few

    Carrots - one LARGE, 2.5oz

    Calories 30
    Fat/Sat Fat .1
    sodium 50mg
    TOTAL CARBS: 6.9g
    -dietary fiber 2g
    -sugar 3.3g


    That is the breakdown for one large carrot that weight no more or no less than 2.5oz

    Someone like me who is medically required to hold a low-carb dietary intake, I have to be EXTREMELY careful on how often I allow myself to have something like carrots because I have to balance out everything else out so I can get a complete meal.

    Too much of anything is counter-productive to weight-loss.
    Too much stress is counter productive

    There are too many variables that can limit our weight-loss efforts... But, too much of a good thing CAN be detrimental..

    You arent turning orange are you? LOL! From the sound of things, you are a Bugs Bunny!
  • TeresaC79
    TeresaC79 Posts: 316 Member
    Way to many sugars in most fruit and yougart when it says fat free or low fat look a carbs you will see high carbs = High sugars

    so, wait. i shouldn't be eating fruit because it is too high in sugar?
  • laddyboy
    laddyboy Posts: 1,565 Member
    doesn't matter where the sugar come from...it still promotes fat storage. Limit your sugars to reduce the belly area and drop weight. Read Jorge Cruise's book the belly fat cure.
  • TeresaC79
    TeresaC79 Posts: 316 Member
    The difference between the two exist on how the body digests it and how fast it hits the body, and how fast it can exit the body.

    Total carbohydrate count is composed of:
    actual carbohydrates
    sugar
    soluable fiber
    insoluable fiber
    alternative sugar substitutes
    .,....just to name off a few

    Carrots - one LARGE, 2.5oz

    Calories 30
    Fat/Sat Fat .1
    sodium 50mg
    TOTAL CARBS: 6.9g
    -dietary fiber 2g
    -sugar 3.3g


    That is the breakdown for one large carrot that weight no more or no less than 2.5oz

    Someone like me who is medically required to hold a low-carb dietary intake, I have to be EXTREMELY careful on how often I allow myself to have something like carrots because I have to balance out everything else out so I can get a complete meal.

    Too much of anything is counter-productive to weight-loss.
    Too much stress is counter productive

    There are too many variables that can limit our weight-loss efforts... But, too much of a good thing CAN be detrimental..

    You arent turning orange are you? LOL! From the sound of things, you are a Bugs Bunny!

    Not turning orange :laugh: Only had 1 cup of carrots. Lunch had some sugars in it as well...pasta, sauce, eggplant, onion, tomato.

    I guess I can't figure out what I can eat if even my eggplant is harboring 4 sugars. Granted, had i not had the 16 sugars in the honey, I would be well under.
  • brit49
    brit49 Posts: 461 Member
    double post
  • brit49
    brit49 Posts: 461 Member
    doesn't matter where the sugar come from...it still promotes fat storage. Limit your sugars to reduce the belly area and drop weight. Read Jorge Cruise's book the belly fat cure.

    Like!!!!
  • margojr4
    margojr4 Posts: 259 Member
    So, I don't eat yogurt, not problems there. I'll cut out the honey tomorrow. I had been dipping the waffle in no sugar added apple sauce. Which was good, but I thought the honey would be a better alternative to syrups. Guess not. :frown:

    Oh well, back to the apple sauce.

    Though its not the 'cleanest' of foods, Mrs. Butterworths makes a sugar free syrup. I like to top my pancakes with strawberry puree (I use my mini mixer) and a drizzle of the SF syrup.

    Natural sugars arent going to be an issue unless you're diabetic and have to watch your intake. My diary is open for public view, I also watch my sugar intake and try to keep it under 50g daily.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    The difference between the two exist on how the body digests it and how fast it hits the body, and how fast it can exit the body.

    Total carbohydrate count is composed of:
    actual carbohydrates
    sugar
    soluable fiber
    insoluable fiber
    alternative sugar substitutes
    .,....just to name off a few

    Carrots - one LARGE, 2.5oz

    Calories 30
    Fat/Sat Fat .1
    sodium 50mg
    TOTAL CARBS: 6.9g
    -dietary fiber 2g
    -sugar 3.3g


    That is the breakdown for one large carrot that weight no more or no less than 2.5oz

    Someone like me who is medically required to hold a low-carb dietary intake, I have to be EXTREMELY careful on how often I allow myself to have something like carrots because I have to balance out everything else out so I can get a complete meal.

    Too much of anything is counter-productive to weight-loss.
    Too much stress is counter productive

    There are too many variables that can limit our weight-loss efforts... But, too much of a good thing CAN be detrimental..

    You arent turning orange are you? LOL! From the sound of things, you are a Bugs Bunny!

    Not turning orange :laugh: Only had 1 cup of carrots. Lunch had some sugars in it as well...pasta, sauce, eggplant, onion, tomato.

    I guess I can't figure out what I can eat if even my eggplant is harboring 4 sugars. Granted, had i not had the 16 sugars in the honey, I would be well under.

    Keep in mind... Pasta is HIGH CARB... carb is sugar. Most pasta sauces on the market *(unless you make your own from scratch like I do), contain sugar, high fructose corn syrup - sugar alternative.s.. take a look at some labels when you are out shopping... some of them will really shock you!


    One 2.2oz Roma tomato has 2.4g TOTAL Carbs, out of that it has .7g fiber, and 1.6g of sugar....

    Ive been cooking scratch for a good two decades, I also cook professionally for a living too... this stuff becomes very interesting reading, if not, in some cases a SHOCKER!
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    I like to analyse my diary at the end of each day, and see if there was ONE change I could have made to really improve things. Sounds in your case like the honey - so go ahead with the rest of the vegetables. Personally, I limit fruit - used to have orange or grapefruit juice each morning, and I've switched that to tomato juice or no added sugar cranberry.
  • muitobem
    muitobem Posts: 436 Member
    jHoney is a natural sugar and especially raw honey...it is what I use all the time when I want some sweet in my tea or whatever...
  • curiositycat
    curiositycat Posts: 111 Member
    Obviously, refined sugars are going to jack up your insulin levels, which is what you want to avoid. Once your insulin drops, you are going to crave starches and more sugars. You're better off sticking with fresh produce, which won't mess with your insulin. That being said, there are a few fruits and vegetables that will raise your insulin significantly: potatoes, carrots, bananas, and dried fruits. As long as your sugar grams are coming from produce, don't worry about MFP's sugar settings. They are too low in most people's opinions.
  • Debbe2
    Debbe2 Posts: 2,071 Member
    So, I don't eat yogurt, not problems there. I'll cut out the honey tomorrow. I had been dipping the waffle in no sugar added apple sauce. Which was good, but I thought the honey would be a better alternative to syrups. Guess not. :frown:

    Oh well, back to the apple sauce.

    Though its not the 'cleanest' of foods, Mrs. Butterworths makes a sugar free syrup. I like to top my pancakes with strawberry puree (I use my mini mixer) and a drizzle of the SF syrup.

    Natural sugars arent going to be an issue unless you're diabetic and have to watch your intake. My diary is open for public view, I also watch my sugar intake and try to keep it under 50g daily.


    This is all true. Honey actually is a good alternative. However if you are diabetic which I am, it's the waffles that become an issue as well. Everything in moderation. For a Diabetic everything in more limited moderation as long as you have your levels under control.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
    Bleh. SUGAR does NOT promote fat storage!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good heavens, I wish people would stop propagating this myth/lie. The craziest thing about this myth is it goes against common sense. Extra calories promote fat storage. Period. The end. It's no more complicated than that.

    Yes, yes, your body can convert carbs to fat. Yes, yes, insulin is one of the hormones that promotes fat storage. But if you're in a calorie deficit, your body just converts that fat right back into glucose when you use up the glucose in your blood, which equals a net fat LOSS.

    Eat your fruit. It's good for you. Honey is fine too in moderation. Hell, white granulated sugar is fine too in moderation.

    The only reason I'd recommend against eating sucrose (table sugar), corn syrup (or any syrup for that matter), and even honey is simply that food items with sugar tend to be somewhat higher in calories than other foods (except for fruits and veggies).

    And MFP sets sugar crazy low. You can get there by just eating fruit.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    Bleh. SUGAR does NOT promote fat storage!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good heavens, I wish people would stop propagating this myth/lie. The craziest thing about this myth is it goes against common sense. Extra calories promote fat storage. Period. The end. It's no more complicated than that.

    Yes, yes, your body can convert carbs to fat. Yes, yes, insulin is one of the hormones that promotes fat storage. But if you're in a calorie deficit, your body just converts that fat right back into glucose when you use up the glucose in your blood, which equals a net fat LOSS.

    Eat your fruit. It's good for you. Honey is fine too in moderation. Hell, white granulated sugar is fine too in moderation.

    The only reason I'd recommend against eating sucrose (table sugar), corn syrup (or any syrup for that matter), and even honey is simply that food items with sugar tend to be somewhat higher in calories than other foods (except for fruits and veggies).

    And MFP sets sugar crazy low. You can get there by just eating fruit.

    I know I never made that comment about fat storage-at all....
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
    I know I never made that comment about fat storage-at all....

    Did I say you made that claim? Laddyboy made that claim. And Brit49 liked it.
  • TeresaC79
    TeresaC79 Posts: 316 Member
    The difference between the two exist on how the body digests it and how fast it hits the body, and how fast it can exit the body.

    Total carbohydrate count is composed of:
    actual carbohydrates
    sugar
    soluable fiber
    insoluable fiber
    alternative sugar substitutes
    .,....just to name off a few

    Carrots - one LARGE, 2.5oz

    Calories 30
    Fat/Sat Fat .1
    sodium 50mg
    TOTAL CARBS: 6.9g
    -dietary fiber 2g
    -sugar 3.3g


    That is the breakdown for one large carrot that weight no more or no less than 2.5oz

    Someone like me who is medically required to hold a low-carb dietary intake, I have to be EXTREMELY careful on how often I allow myself to have something like carrots because I have to balance out everything else out so I can get a complete meal.

    Too much of anything is counter-productive to weight-loss.
    Too much stress is counter productive

    There are too many variables that can limit our weight-loss efforts... But, too much of a good thing CAN be detrimental..

    You arent turning orange are you? LOL! From the sound of things, you are a Bugs Bunny!

    Not turning orange :laugh: Only had 1 cup of carrots. Lunch had some sugars in it as well...pasta, sauce, eggplant, onion, tomato.

    I guess I can't figure out what I can eat if even my eggplant is harboring 4 sugars. Granted, had i not had the 16 sugars in the honey, I would be well under.

    Keep in mind... Pasta is HIGH CARB... carb is sugar. Most pasta sauces on the market *(unless you make your own from scratch like I do), contain sugar, high fructose corn syrup - sugar alternative.s.. take a look at some labels when you are out shopping... some of them will really shock you!


    One 2.2oz Roma tomato has 2.4g TOTAL Carbs, out of that it has .7g fiber, and 1.6g of sugar....

    Ive been cooking scratch for a good two decades, I also cook professionally for a living too... this stuff becomes very interesting reading, if not, in some cases a SHOCKER!

    I'm very anal about reading ingredient lists since I was vegan or vegetarian for many years. I admit, I've been bad at looking at nutritional information though, until now.

    I make sure my foods are natural, organic and local if I can. I make sure I can not only read all the ingredients but know what they are. We avoid all HFCS.

    I'm Italian by birth, so I admit that cutting out pasta is not a reality. :embarassed:
  • brit49
    brit49 Posts: 461 Member
    I know I never made that comment about fat storage-at all....

    Did I say you made that claim? Laddyboy made that claim. And Brit49 liked it.


    And I still like it, its just a personal preference. I dont like food too sweet, and since i cut down on my sugar my weight loss is going very well.
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    Bleh. SUGAR does NOT promote fat storage!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good heavens, I wish people would stop propagating this myth/lie. The craziest thing about this myth is it goes against common sense. Extra calories promote fat storage. Period. The end. It's no more complicated than that.

    Yes, yes, your body can convert carbs to fat. Yes, yes, insulin is one of the hormones that promotes fat storage. But if you're in a calorie deficit, your body just converts that fat right back into glucose when you use up the glucose in your blood, which equals a net fat LOSS.

    Eat your fruit. It's good for you. Honey is fine too in moderation. Hell, white granulated sugar is fine too in moderation.

    The only reason I'd recommend against eating sucrose (table sugar), corn syrup (or any syrup for that matter), and even honey is simply that food items with sugar tend to be somewhat higher in calories than other foods (except for fruits and veggies).

    And MFP sets sugar crazy low. You can get there by just eating fruit.

    This!! I am a Type 2 diabetic since 2009, when I was at my heaviest and when I had my aha moment at 560 lbs. I have lost 289 lbs. Of course I made alot of changes to my lifestyle (don't like to call it a diet anymore) eat alot of Fish and Chicken, and lean beef, along with veggies and whole grains but I have 3 scoops of Pure Cane sugar in my morning coffee, I eat 3 pcs. of whole wheat toast each morning with natural peanut butter and local honey (from a local bee keeper) and I eat apple, oranges, etc about everyday. I avoid as much processed foods as I can but see nothing wrong with honey, sugar, light syrup on waffles (If I am not eating my toast I have Eggo whole wheat waffles they are 70 calories each). Everything in moderation is the key... I am now pre-diabetic and have been for the past year (A1C are now 5.4) of course everybody responds differently and you need to find what works best for you....
  • TeresaC79
    TeresaC79 Posts: 316 Member
    I'm sure in the past, I was quadrupling my sugar intake with candies, cookies, etc. I have a terrible sweet tooth.
  • cakeums
    cakeums Posts: 228 Member
    I disagree with the claim that sugar promotes fat storage too. You get fat from eating too much. You could eat nothing but 500 calories a day of pixie stix and you would still be thinner than someone who eats 2000 calories a day of an extreme low-sugar diet. In fact, I have had several friends who suffered from/still battle with anorexia who consume mass amounts of sugar just to get through the day, and eat little else. I am talking women who weigh all of 85, 90lbs.
    I like to analyse my diary at the end of each day, and see if there was ONE change I could have made to really improve things. Sounds in your case like the honey - so go ahead with the rest of the vegetables. Personally, I limit fruit - used to have orange or grapefruit juice each morning, and I've switched that to tomato juice or no added sugar cranberry.

    Limiting juice and limiting fruit are two different things though. Better off eating an orange than drinking a glass of orange juice, you know?
  • cakeums
    cakeums Posts: 228 Member
    That said, the honey is fine. In fact, honey is one of the better sugars to eat, assuming you're eating pure honey. I would guess you could cut down on the amount of pasta that you ate next time, rather than eliminating honey from your diet. With waffles I like to use Log Cabin Lite, there's no HFCS or artificial sweetener, and the sugar is less than the original. You still can't go overboard because there's still 26g of sugar per serving, which is 1/4c. But a couple of tablespoons is half a serving, which isn't so bad. Or spread some lower sugar preserves on top. No artificial sweeteners in the Smucker's "low sugar" line.
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