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i have a friend who just started taking alli. what do you guys think about it? i dont know much about it. i have heard that it just helps you eat healthy. I'm skeptical though. what do you think?:huh:
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I have been using Alli since February and I have lost 28 pounds. I love it because it works int he digestive system as a fat blocker and doesn't affect the brain or the heart. It does force you to be honest with yourself. If you do not follow a low fat healthy diet you can have side effects. If you do have those effects, it is your own fault. The upside is if you know ahead of time that you are going someplace that does not serve healthy food you can skip the pill. Of course that is the exception not the rule, you can't pick and choose and expect it to work. You have to stick to that good for you diet. The program is really great but I still prefer to log all my info here rather than the Alli site. They have a lot of great tips and they have meal plans too. I create my own meal plans though as long as I stick to my limit. They also have good recipes.i have a friend who just started taking alli. what do you guys think about it? i dont know much about it. i have heard that it just helps you eat healthy. I'm skeptical though. what do you think?:huh:0 -
i have a friend who just started taking alli. what do you guys think about it? i dont know much about it. i have heard that it just helps you eat healthy. I'm skeptical though. what do you think?:huh:
i tried it and i wouldn't say it "helps" you eat healthy, more like "scares you into" eating healthy. the side effects are real, and not pretty if you overdo it on fat. let's just you can't really be discrete about letting out a toot or two.
if you do the math, based on the recommendations by alli you're eating only 1200 calories a day or so if i remember correctly...and that's why you lose weight. if you need to be scared into eating right, then it may be a good thing to try. i'm trying to just use sheer willpower this time, and then i don't have to spend $40 a bottle on it either!0 -
Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about health, or is it about speed? You're eventually going to have to stop taking it, then you'll need to adjust your eating habits again anyway, or just regain the fat you lose while taking it.0
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Well, eventually you are going to have to learn to eat right and exercise and alli may be FDA approved but so have many other diet products that end up having horrible health side effects and they are pulled off the market.........Phen fen being one of the biggest ever.
It has been awhile but I think the greatest thing ever said about alli and it's side effects was a woman that was using it and went to a work function and was eating her dinner and when she got up from the table a co-worker gave her a sweater and told her to tie it around her waist, when she asked why her co-worker told her that her that there was something big on her pants. Turned out she had some leakage while eating and didn't even feel it and it was the fat that she had eaten at this dinner running through her. She quit after that.
There is NO magic pill, there never will be. It may work now but when you stop where will you be. Pills are not the answer to all of our problems. YOu have to learn to eat and exercise if you want to battle this.....not to mention the money :noway:0 -
Just to clarify, the amount of calories you are required to consume on Alli are calculated the same way they are on this site. Everyone is different so not everyone will have a 1200 calorie limit. What they do limit is the fat, no more than 15 grams per meals. Currently my goal caloric intake for the day is 1800.0
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Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about health, or is it about speed? You're eventually going to have to stop taking it, then you'll need to adjust your eating habits again anyway, or just regain the fat you lose while taking it.
Well said :drinker: :flowerforyou:0 -
Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about health, or is it about speed? You're eventually going to have to stop taking it, then you'll need to adjust your eating habits again anyway, or just regain the fat you lose while taking it.
Well said :drinker: :flowerforyou:
I knew banks would have a short and sweet response! Well said
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Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about health, or is it about speed? You're eventually going to have to stop taking it, then you'll need to adjust your eating habits again anyway, or just regain the fat you lose while taking it.
Well said :drinker: :flowerforyou:
Obviously not everyone is as well informed on how Alli works. Some people NEED a crutch to help them get started. Everybody is different and Alli is not for everyone. It is nothing even close to Phen fen.0 -
I started taking it, but quit. I didn't notice any big lose or that it helped in any way. I only had a side effect if I ate a fatty meal. didn't do that to often so it seemed to be a waste of money. Sometimes if I know I will be eating a fatty meal and will be at home the next couple of days, I'll take it just to do a "CLEANSE" of my system. for that it is great!!:laugh: I've heard that it helps some people, but not for me. I'm loseing the old fashion way, hard work and low everything....
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You still have to do all the hard work, it is not a copout. All it is is a fat blocker that blocks some of the fat you eat. You still have to eat healthy and exercise. It is somthing that helps you to stay honest to watching what you eat.0
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Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about health, or is it about speed? You're eventually going to have to stop taking it, then you'll need to adjust your eating habits again anyway, or just regain the fat you lose while taking it.
Well said :drinker: :flowerforyou:
Obviously not everyone is as well informed on how Alli works. Some people NEED a crutch to help them get started. Everybody is different and Alli is not for everyone. It is nothing even close to Phen fen.
I'm not sure I follow this statement, as I am VERY well versed on exactly what alli does. And I disagree wholeheartedly that people need a crutch. Not this kind of crutch for this kind of problem. What they need is good, solid information on how to eat right, exercise, and how their metabolism works.
Maybe some people THINK they need a crutch, but that's very different from really needing one.0 -
Obviously not everyone is as well informed on how Alli works. Some people NEED a crutch to help them get started. Everybody is different and Alli is not for everyone. It is nothing even close to Phen fen.
The point is that the FDA has a long standing history of approving pills for diet and just as long a history of having to pull those pills off of the market for a variety of health issues. Taking a NEWLY approved FDA pill in the first 10 years of use puts you into the guinea pig stage of the pill and you have to decide if you want to put yourself in that risk category. :noway:
It is a personal choice, use it if you want but inform yourself completely and ask your doctor if the pill is something you personally should use BEFORE taking it, the opinions on this website or any other are just that and should NOT be used to make a final decision in something like this.0 -
Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about
I'm not sure I follow this statement, as I am VERY well versed on exactly what alli does. And I disagree wholeheartedly that people need a crutch. Not this kind of crutch for this kind of problem. What they need is good, solid information on how to eat right, exercise, and how their metabolism works.
Maybe some people THINK they need a crutch, but that's very different from really needing one.
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You are right there is a difference. Alli is mostly about eating healthy and exercising, truthfully the pill is just a crutch, side item to the program, and yes I want it. Sorry that is just the way I feel.0 -
My doctor reccomends it for anyone who needs to loose more than 50 pounds. It is not formulated like past pills on the market.Obviously not everyone is as well informed on how Alli works. Some people NEED a crutch to help them get started. Everybody is different and Alli is not for everyone. It is nothing even close to Phen fen.
The point is that the FDA has a long standing history of approving pills for diet and just as long a history of having to pull those pills off of the market for a variety of health issues. Taking a NEWLY approved FDA pill in the first 10 years of use puts you into the guinea pig stage of the pill and you have to decide if you want to put yourself in that risk category. :noway:
It is a personal choice, use it if you want but inform yourself completely and ask your doctor if the pill is something you personally should use BEFORE taking it, the opinions on this website or any other are just that and should NOT be used to make a final decision in something like this.0 -
well i think i will just play it safe and not take it. it's expensive anyway. thanks everyone
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I used alli for 3 months and i dont think it is worth the scare. Yea it is FDA approved but i just dont trust the pill. you can do it on your own. its all about portion control and what you eat.0
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I started it about 2 weeks back. The second day it was rough but have had no problems since and I am sure I have consumed more than 15 grams of fat per meal. I have a friend who lost a lot of wt. on it but so far I have lost nothing.0
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It worked for me it gave me the help I needed at the begining - and I kept the weight off because I also changed my eating and excercise habits.
You know I was a smoker for 28 years and when I quit I used the patch to help me get through
and get me started so I guess that patch was a crutch.
However it doesn't invalidate my outcome wether it be weight loss or quitting smoking - If it takes a pill or a patch to jump start you to you change your behaviors long term then I say go for it.
It's doesn't make you any less tuff or change that fact that you've worked just as hard to get to your goal.
Eating healthy and excersing for the long run is key.0 -
The answer to the original post: No, it does not "help" anyone to eat healthy. YOU help YOURSELF to eat healthy. No pills, no patches, no exotic diet from Dr. Quack. Attitude and responsibility are the things that will set you on a path to good health. Pill makers are raking in billions of $$$ preying on frustrated people who are desparate to lose weight with little or no effort. It takes effort...it takes patience...and it takes a big dose of common sense.0
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Thank you! I have worked hard to get where I am, eatign very healthy and working out. I guess some people think that everyone who takes a pill thinks that is all they are doing to loose weight.It worked for me it gave me the help I needed at the begining - and I kept the weight off because I also changed my eating and excercise habits.
You know I was a smoker for 28 years and when I quit I used the patch to help me get through
and get me started so I guess that patch was a crutch.
However it doesn't invalidate my outcome wether it be weight loss or quitting smoking - If it takes a pill or a patch to jump start you to you change your behaviors long term then I say go for it.
It's doesn't make you any less tuff or change that fact that you've worked just as hard to get to your goal.
Eating healthy and excersing for the long run is key.0 -
It worked for me it gave me the help I needed at the begining - and I kept the weight off because I also changed my eating and excercise habits.
You know I was a smoker for 28 years and when I quit I used the patch to help me get through
and get me started so I guess that patch was a crutch.
However it doesn't invalidate my outcome wether it be weight loss or quitting smoking - If it takes a pill or a patch to jump start you to you change your behaviors long term then I say go for it.
It's doesn't make you any less tuff or change that fact that you've worked just as hard to get to your goal.
Eating healthy and excersing for the long run is key.
first, there is a big difference between the patch for smoking and alli. Alli introduces a chemical into the body that artificially inhibits fat absorbtion, the patch maintains nicotine levels. One (alli) introduces a whole new chemical into the system. The other (the patch) keeps your nicotine levels where they are so you can break part of the habit and allow you to deal with the other part on your own terms.
Alli basically changes the way your metabolism works, the patch does nothing except allow you to break the psychological aspect of smoking while not having the physical withdrawals.
Just to be clear, I didn't say it doesn't do anything or that you can't or won't lose weight on it, I said it was unnecessary, and a crutch, which it is. I said that it introduces a chemical into the body that changes the way we digest food, which it does. And I said that it doesn't do anything you can't do without it, which it doesn't.
Hey, I don't care if you use it or not, that's on you not me. But if someone asks my opinion on it, I'm not going to hold back.0 -
I agree with both sides. For those who have willpower and are easily self motivated without an aid, then going it on your own is great. BUT0
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I agree with both sides. For those who have willpower and are easily self motivated without an aid, then going it on your own is great. BUT some people do need extra tools to get started and to learn to stay within guidelines, and this sounds like a good option. There are good approaches and bad approaches to losing weight, and as long as it's done in by eating right, exercising right, and being HEALTHY, none of us should judge each other on what we need to use to get ourselves there.
It's like learning to ride a bike....some kids jump right on, hit the peddles hard and they're off. Others need training wheels that come off as soon as they learn how to balance properly. Ultimately, you have to know and follow basic "rules" to be able to ride the bike for the rest of your life.
My $.02.0 -
I agree with both sides. For those who have willpower and are easily self motivated without an aid, then going it on your own is great. BUT some people do need extra tools to get started and to learn to stay within guidelines, and this sounds like a good option. There are good approaches and bad approaches to losing weight, and as long as it's done in by eating right, exercising right, and being HEALTHY, none of us should judge each other on what we need to use to get ourselves there.
It's like learning to ride a bike....some kids jump right on, hit the peddles hard and they're off. Others need training wheels that come off as soon as they learn how to balance properly. Ultimately, you have to know and follow basic "rules" to be able to ride the bike for the rest of your life.
My $.02.
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Wholely and completely unnecessary! You don't need it, it's a crutch, if you can lose weight with it, then you can lose weight without it! Why put a chemical in your body that changes your body chemistry when you can do the same job without it? Maybe it will take a little longer, but really, is this about health, or is it about speed? You're eventually going to have to stop taking it, then you'll need to adjust your eating habits again anyway, or just regain the fat you lose while taking it.
Well said :drinker: :flowerforyou:
Obviously not everyone is as well informed on how Alli works. Some people NEED a crutch to help them get started. Everybody is different and Alli is not for everyone. It is nothing even close to Phen fen.
I think Banks meant how fast you lose not Speed as in drugs....
I agree with both sides here except I've tried alli and other "crutches" which I thought I needed and I always gained everything I lost and more....if you need to take it - try to wean yourself gradually and continue your good habits you've learned.
best of luck!0 -
[is not for everyone. It is nothing even close to Phen fen.
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I think Banks meant how fast you lose not Speed as in drugs....
I agree with both sides here except I've tried alli and other "crutches" which I thought I needed and I always gained everything I lost and more....if you need to take it - try to wean yourself gradually and continue your good habits you've learned.
best of luck!
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Thanks I appreciate it.0 -
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion..............
This is mine and mine alone, based on research I have done over the past 6 years that I have had to diet due to weight gain............
Your body needs fat to keep your body going............A low fat diet is not healthy.
A moderate fat diet that includes little or no processed foods, adequate fat and protien, lots of vegetables, some fruit (because of sugar content), nuts, whole grains (brown rice, oats, quinoa, etc).
Alli is going to strip your body of needed fats and send it out the back door..........(no pun intended). That is not healthy...........The obesity epidemic that this country is facing is because of the "low fat" diet craze that started in the late 60's and early 70's.............
They have Americans addicted to sugar, like drug addicts are addicted to crack. That is why sugar is in EVERYTHING..........
I know a couple of people that took it and their hair, skin and nails became dull, dry and lifeless. Their skin started itching and they felt tird and unsatisfied with the food they were eating...........That does not give a healthy appearance........
Again, this is just my 2 cents.0 -
I had a friend that used it and all I would here was story's about leakage issues. That alone made me say that will never be anything I try!
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Anything that causes me to have anal leakage is something I try to avoid. Lol. Besides, if it's a fat blocker and that's all it does, then just eating less fat on your own will have the same effect. Seems pointless to me.
I actually think I'd be really weary of a doctor prescribing me a pill like this without first encouraging me to try a healthy diet and lots of exercise on my own. Seriously, doctors these days seem to be shovelling us full of silly medications for things that we are fully capable of handling naturally.0 -
i have a friend who just started taking alli. what do you guys think about it? i dont know much about it. i have heard that it just helps you eat healthy. I'm skeptical though. what do you think?:huh:
According the doctor, the only person Alli will help is someone who has an extremely high fat content eating habit. If you can't control yourself and you're MORBIDLY OBESE where your health is a REAL CONCERN, then I wouldn't even give it a second thought. Don't you want the pride of saying "I did it all by myself!" "No! I didn't take any diet pill. I just had the will!"0
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