Sugars in fruit

Sugar is sugar is true to a point, but you have to look at the package that comes with the sugar. Fruit has fiber and that helps slow down digestion, which will not cause the same jump in blood sugar that comes from drinking a sugary drink. Plus, sugar has many vital nutrients that your body needs.

Fruit is good for you. Eat it.

Simplest answer: your body doesn't know if the sugar came from an apple or a donut. It's sugar and it will be processed as such. However, the fruit has more going for it nutritionally than the donut.

Sugar is sugar is true to a point, but you have to look at the package that comes with the sugar. Fruit has fiber and that helps slow down digestion, which will not cause the same jump in blood sugar that comes from drinking a sugary drink. Plus, sugar has many vital nutrients that your body needs.

Fruit is good for you. Eat it.

I totally agree with you that sugar from fruit is better than sugar from something like a donut or what-not. But just because sugar from fruit is more natural doesn't change the fact that it still has a negative effect on my weight loss efforts. Fruit can wait. I got the rest of my life, and extended one at that if I get the rest of the weight off, to eat it later.

I don't mean to offend, but people who think sugar = sugar should maybe do a little research or talk to a REAL nutritionist. Not your supplement or shake provider, not the person who helped stick you in a contract at the gym, but someone who has gone to school specifically for nutrition. Fat does not = fat and sugar does not = sugar. You must learn how the body uses them to digest and use as fuel or store to use later. Too much of anything is not good and too little of anything is not good also.

Another tip is that if you load up on protein and not enough carbs, guess what your body starts using as fuel? Protein. And do you know where that comes from in your body? Your muscles. So basically while you are starving your body of what it really needs to fuel energy, you are fueling it by literally feeding it the muscle, thus losing muscle mass in the process.

When you start eating ANY carbs again after avoiding them, your body is so starved for them, it stores them as fat because it expects to be starved again. That is where SOME fat comes from. It's a natural process that can be completely misdirected if your diet is not proper and all nutrients are not in moderation - that includes fats and sugars. Think about how bears eat to hibernate. They fatten up so they don't have to eat for a long period of time. That's all you are basically doing when you starve yourself of nutrients.

All sugars are not the same and are not all processed by the body the same way and do not have the same effect on your blood sugar levels and other bodily functions. For starters, ask someone with fructose or lactose intolerance.

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I don't mean to offend, but people who think sugar = sugar should maybe do a little research or talk to a REAL nutritionist. Not your supplement or shake provider, not the person who helped stick you in a contract at the gym, but someone who has gone to school specifically for nutrition. Fat does not = fat and sugar does not = sugar. You must learn how the body uses them to digest and use as fuel or store to use later. Too much of anything is not good and too little of anything is not good also.

Another tip is that if you load up on protein and not enough carbs, guess what your body starts using as fuel? Protein. And do you know where that comes from in your body? Your muscles. So basically while you are starving your body of what it really needs to fuel energy, you are fueling it by literally feeding it the muscle, thus losing muscle mass in the process.

When you start eating ANY carbs again after avoiding them, your body is so starved for them, it stores them as fat because it expects to be starved again. That is where SOME fat comes from. It's a natural process that can be completely misdirected if your diet is not proper and all nutrients are not in moderation - that includes fats and sugars. Think about how bears eat to hibernate. They fatten up so they don't have to eat for a long period of time. That's all you are basically doing when you starve yourself of nutrients.

I am going by the advise of a nutritionist... He recommended Bryon Richards book called Mastering Leptin... You might like to check it out. If you cut back on carbs and have a slightly higher protein count your body will pull from your fat stores to make energy.

I am going by the advise of a nutritionist... He recommended Bryon Richards book called Mastering Leptin... You might like to check it out. If you cut back on carbs and have a slightly higher protein count your body will pull from your fat stores to make energy.

Thanks. I've really always used the "eat less and exercise more" approach to not myself crazy. I want to be healthy AND happy, and for me personally, obsessing over one piece of fruit or any other food might make me unhappy. I know what not to do...like indulge on a huge piece of cake and then expect to stay at the same weight. I know that if I eat less saturated fat and drink more water, it improves my health and I notice results. I know a few friends who get completely miserable and end up falling off the wagon because they are counting every increment of food.

I am also not suggesting the log isn't good at all either...don't take me the wrong way on that. I love MFP...it makes me realize what I need to eat less of and what I should eat more of. I find when I over-think about what I'm eating, I just lose control and start eating everything in sight.

I am going by the advise of a nutritionist... He recommended Bryon Richards book called Mastering Leptin... You might like to check it out. If you cut back on carbs and have a slightly higher protein count your body will pull from your fat stores to make energy.

Thanks. I've really always used the "eat less and exercise more" approach to not myself crazy. I want to be healthy AND happy, and for me personally, obsessing over one piece of fruit or any other food might make me unhappy. I know what not to do...like indulge on a huge piece of cake and then expect to stay at the same weight. I know that if I eat less saturated fat and drink more water, it improves my health and I notice results. I know a few friends who get completely miserable and end up falling off the wagon because they are counting every increment of food.

I am also not suggesting the log isn't good at all either...don't take me the wrong way on that. I love MFP...it makes me realize what I need to eat less of and what I should eat more of. I find when I over-think about what I'm eating, I just lose control and start eating everything in sight.

Nah, I get what you are saying. It's all good. Just things work differently for others. I don't obsess about fruit... I just don't eat it unless I workout.....Which is none right now since the knee surgery. LOL... There are other carbs they have me avoiding because of how they breakdown into sugars... At first I had to really follow the avoid list. Now I don't have to. Just a new way of life for me. When I get the last 50-60 lbs off then I won't have to worry about it as much and I will mainly watch portions. If I see weight creeping back on I will cut those foods out again until I am back where I need to be.

Sugar is sugar is true to a point, but you have to look at the package that comes with the sugar. Fruit has fiber and that helps slow down digestion, which will not cause the same jump in blood sugar that comes from drinking a sugary drink. Plus, sugar has many vital nutrients that your body needs.

Fruit is good for you. Eat it.

I totally agree with you that sugar from fruit is better than sugar from something like a donut or what-not. But just because sugar from fruit is more natural doesn't change the fact that it still has a negative effect on my weight loss efforts. Fruit can wait. I got the rest of my life, and extended one at that if I get the rest of the weight off, to eat it later.

If you have a medical problem liked jacked up leptin levels (not really sure what that is) then the 'general' rules may not apply to you. But eating fruit won't make the average otherwise healthy person gain weight any more than any other food will. But you can gain weight from eating anything if you too much of it.

Which I always talk about this from my experience and not as a general rule of thumb for everyone. Everyone is different and what applies to 1 million people might not apply to the next 100 people. So it is best not to make generalizations about anything concerning weight management.

I disagree. Any adult that has a disease, syndrome, or other healthy issue should be intelligent enough to realize that "general" rules may not apply to them and they should check with their doctor. But that does not mean that general rules should not be shared.

Sugar is sugar is true to a point, but you have to look at the package that comes with the sugar. Fruit has fiber and that helps slow down digestion, which will not cause the same jump in blood sugar that comes from drinking a sugary drink. Plus, sugar has many vital nutrients that your body needs.

Fruit is good for you. Eat it.

I totally agree with you that sugar from fruit is better than sugar from something like a donut or what-not. But just because sugar from fruit is more natural doesn't change the fact that it still has a negative effect on my weight loss efforts. Fruit can wait. I got the rest of my life, and extended one at that if I get the rest of the weight off, to eat it later.

If you have a medical problem liked jacked up leptin levels (not really sure what that is) then the 'general' rules may not apply to you. But eating fruit won't make the average otherwise healthy person gain weight any more than any other food will. But you can gain weight from eating anything if you too much of it.

Which I always talk about this from my experience and not as a general rule of thumb for everyone. Everyone is different and what applies to 1 million people might not apply to the next 100 people. So it is best not to make generalizations about anything concerning weight management.

I disagree. Any adult that has a disease, syndrome, or other healthy issue should be intelligent enough to realize that "general" rules may not apply to them and they should check with their doctor. But that does not mean that general rules should not be shared.

Nothing wrong with SHARING the general rules of thumb... It becomes a whole new ball game when sharing becomes CLAIMING it is the only way that things work for everyone.