Size 6 is a PLUS size model?!?!?!

LaDiablesse
LaDiablesse Posts: 862 Member
edited October 2024 in Chit-Chat

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  • messyinthekitchen
    messyinthekitchen Posts: 662 Member
    That's idiotic. If anything these models could gain a few. Half of them look like they are withering. It's not even sexy anymore when I see these girls on the run way. They look sickly.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    It's FOX News. When have they ever made sense?
  • sassylilmama
    sassylilmama Posts: 1,493 Member
    CRAZY And people wonder why so many have eating disorders now.
  • lyssamichelle
    lyssamichelle Posts: 1,307 Member
    I wouldn't blame the news source for telling it how it is. I've seen that somewhere else though.
    It's ridiculous, the media needs to be stopped.
  • stephabef
    stephabef Posts: 936 Member
    The way she's cradling the super thin model like she's a baby... beautifully shot. It really makes you think about the health of the women forced to starve themselves for their work.

    You can see the whole shoot on the PLUS magazine site. it's really well done!
  • lorac321
    lorac321 Posts: 614 Member
    And yet Marilyn Monroe was a size 12... so they say.
  • kristelpoole
    kristelpoole Posts: 440 Member
    I'm on both sides. Are today's runway and editorial models grossly thin? Yeah. Does a statistic comparing the ratio of models:avg women 20 yrs ago VS. models:avg women today mean anything to me? No. The avg woman 20 yrs ago wasn't as fat as the avg woman today. We need to get away from glorifying sticks, yes, but that doesn't mean we need to make being obese "okay" either.

    Where's all the models who look like they could kick our *kitten*? Bring on the fitness. THAT would be a fine ideal.
  • I'm on both sides. Are today's runway and editorial models grossly thin? Yeah. Does a statistic comparing the ratio of models:avg women 20 yrs ago VS. models:avg women today mean anything to me? No. The avg woman 20 yrs ago wasn't as fat as the avg woman today. We need to get away from glorifying sticks, yes, but that doesn't mean we need to make being obese "okay" either.

    Where's all the models who look like they could kick our *kitten*? Bring on the fitness. THAT would be a fine ideal.

    I completely agree. The statistic is meaningless unless I know the weight distribution of women 20 years ago versus the weight distribution of women now. Regardless, neither of the models has any muscle tone...which to me is more important than being a size 0 or 6.
  • kje2011
    kje2011 Posts: 502 Member
    holy crap...i would love to be a size 6 !!!! or even a size 8. (i'm 5'9)
  • kristelpoole
    kristelpoole Posts: 440 Member
    And yet Marilyn Monroe was a size 12... so they say.

    Size 12 then =/= Size 12 now

    Also this: http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/the-body-of-marilyn-monroe/

    a 24" waist at my height? Bahahahaha, talk to me in a year of working my *kitten* off....and I still won't be that skinny.
  • Johnnyswife
    Johnnyswife Posts: 1,447 Member
    That is so sad...Even if I ever get to my smallest size, it won't be as small as a 6...guess I'll always be plus sized..
  • MiniMichelle
    MiniMichelle Posts: 801 Member
    This makes me sick to my stomach for so many reasons!!
  • NA_Willie
    NA_Willie Posts: 340 Member
    They are models, not real women, for a model size 6 is chunky.
  • Yep, comparing sizes are meaningless as well.

    Size 6 today would probably have been a size 10 or thereabouts 20 years ago anyway.

    The super thin model looks awful but to be honest, the plus sized model does not look good either, not toned and fit at all.
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
    This title, and the first part of the article, seem to be deliberately provocative and deceptive. The model featured is a size 14, which is indeed plus sized, and quite likely, unhealthy. She may be beautiful, and look great, but a size 14 is overweight, in almost any circumstance.

    I went back and looked at the NSFW photos. Neither woman looks healthy at all. It's dangerous to promote either as ideal, when neither is.
  • x125x
    x125x Posts: 15
    More women will get the chance to model now. I was thinking if the models for average size women are size 0, it actually makes sense to me that the models for plus size women are a 6.
  • OK, now this gets difficult for me due to international sizings but I followed the feature posted and I don't think that model is very large. I'm in Australia and a size US14 is a AU16-18 which is, to me, larger. So at 5' 7", I'm a US size 8, possibly 10 (depending which chart you go by but most suggest a two step difference so I go with 8). I certainly don't consider myself small so I'm confused ...
  • takehimaway
    takehimaway Posts: 499 Member
    Bettie Page's measurements were 36-24-36 1/2. In today's sizes she would be a 6 or 8 most likely.
  • TripleJ3
    TripleJ3 Posts: 945 Member
    And yet Marilyn Monroe was a size 12... so they say.

    In Marilyn's day a size 14 was today's 7. So yes, she was a size "14" then.
  • Jewels211
    Jewels211 Posts: 184 Member
    My daughter who never wore bigger than a 7 (and generally a 3/5 4/6), 5'7", very "narrow" looking, but with curves, was approached numerous times during her high school years, 2001-2006, by talent scouts and encouraged to persue modeling--as a plus-size model. I was FURIOUS when I found out! Talk about doing a number on a girl's self esteem. Plus, when I look at plus size clothes, I want to see how they REALLY look when worn. I complained to a company (Lane Bryant, I think) once about the models being so small that there was no way to get an accurate idea of how the clothing would look on an actual plus-sized person, and they wrote back and said that the public wanted to see things as they did it, that they got all kinds of negative input if they used truly large models.
  • TripleJ3
    TripleJ3 Posts: 945 Member
    The whole point of a runway model is to be a walking hanger for the designer's clothes. You are meant to see the clothes and not the girl. Thats why there are different types of models. Yes, many take it to extremes and people did notice how thin the girls were so they thought, well, to wear those clothes I must be that thin too! And so it spread and grew into what is thought today.

    I believe plus size models started at an 8 or 10 anyway. Runway models are a 2 or smaller so if you were in the middle you had to choose to gain or lose or be so sought after such as Brooke Shields that a photographer would cut up all the clothes then sew them on her to fit because they wanted her "look". So as someone said already, now a size 6 can stay a size 6 and get more jobs.

    Why do I even know this stuff???

    I get bored and read just about anything:blushing:
  • takehimaway
    takehimaway Posts: 499 Member
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  • What a load of rubbish to be honest.

    This whole "sizing thing" is a load of crap.

    a size 6 is really a size 12

    As woman of our century get bigger so does our clothing so the marketing industries of clothing labels make sizes smaller, putting smaller numbers out there. Clothing size is irrelevant. It is the measurements of the body that determine the size ultimately.

    No clothing label has the exact same sizing system which is why when we go into one store we may fit one size, then we go in another and are not able to fit that size. The size is ultimately a vanity thing to make women feel smaller. and it is thought of by the company when they think of their target customers, and main customer group.

    The standard measurement chart which was conducted at the time when mass produced clothing was becoming more popular, is what most designer labels use and these so called size "6" women are actually a size 10-12 on the standard sizing chart, as most sample clothing (which are the ones most commonly used in designer shows and photoshoots) are sampled in a size 10 or 12 according to the standard sizing chart so they may be upgraded or made smaller in size i agree this chart needs to be remade as women have gotten bigger since then. But most company such as walmart for example or macys they do mass produce clothing so they have their own sizing charts.

    But these sizes are completely inaccurate. they can not just take one size and go oh yea its the same everywhere else so she must be thin. And alot of fashion weeks around the world have banned letting girls with unhealthy bmis walk the runway at fashion weeks.
    Curvy models are being used, alot more and the only really really thin models i have seen are the ones that do coutoure fashion.

    And there are some females who are naturally thin like that and some designers like to show an unattainable glamorous lifestyle
  • ariel3561
    ariel3561 Posts: 27 Member
    It's true that the numbers mean nothing. When I was 120 lbs I wore a 6 less than 10 years ago and I'm still wearing a "6" today even though I've gained almost 20 lbs. I'm 5'3" and have a 30 inch waist.
  • Crys1209
    Crys1209 Posts: 128 Member
    And yet Marilyn Monroe was a size 12... so they say.



    And Marilyn Monroe was absolutely gorgeous! Makes you wonder about how things are these days.
  • So if I'm 5' 7" and size 8 I'm a plus size model sizing? haha. The plus size clothes stores are all too big for me but I do notice that a number use women that do actually fit their clothes in their ad campaigns. A good thing I think. I could never be a size 2 and be anything near healthy. For me, I'd be worried if I got under a 6. (using US sizes here).
  • 3shirts
    3shirts Posts: 294 Member
    What I don't really understand is why models are supposed to be a 'hanger for the clothes'.

    If that is really true, why not just have a hanger on a conveyor moving down the catwalk? If they want a person to be in the clothes then that must be so the clothes look natural in which case they should be on realistic (if still quite thin) models.

    Seems a bit contradictory to me
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